NWFlyer 2 #1 July 19, 2006 So I just got back from a delicious meal at a "South African" restaurant here in Atlanta. It was a great meal, but I'm curious from our South African friends on here - was it anything close to authentic? Menu attached, and the restaurant's website is here (though I will warn you they get major demerits for egregious use of Flash. (Special thanks goes out to the ATL trivia crew for the barrage of amusing text messages that came just as I was trying to escape the inevitable work-related small talk that follows a meal like that. You guys crack me UP! )"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #2 July 19, 2006 We're supposed to know if it's authentic from a menu? I got about 2 seconds into the flash before I turned it off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #3 July 19, 2006 QuoteWe're supposed to know if it's authentic from a menu? I got about 2 seconds into the flash before I turned it off. Well, I don't expect a TEXAN to provide me any hints on its authenticity. I'm hoping some of the SA crew (that would be South Africa, not San Antonio) can at least tell me whether the stuff on the menu looks authentic. Obviously, they won't be able to judge the food itself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #4 July 19, 2006 Theres a whole bunch of stuff there that's European and some South Aficanesk stuffYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ntacfreefly 0 #5 July 19, 2006 Katie and I eat there regularly. It's authentic and a great meal (and the closest thing to home cooking out here), although they're getting pretty pricey now. edit: The bobotie and Sosaties are my favs. Blues, Ian To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders. ~ Lao-Tzu It's all good, they're my brothers ~ Mariann Kramer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #6 July 19, 2006 QuoteKatie and I eat there regularly. It's authentic and a great meal (and the closest thing to home cooking out here), although they're getting pretty pricey now. edit: The bobotie and Sosaties are my favs. Blues, Ian Ian! of course I should have gone to you first - someone who would know authentic AND who has actually been there. It was yummy!"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #7 July 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteKatie and I eat there regularly. It's authentic and a great meal (and the closest thing to home cooking out here), although they're getting pretty pricey now. edit: The bobotie and Sosaties are my favs. Blues, Ian Ian! of course I should have gone to you first - someone who would know authentic AND who has actually been there. It was yummy! Dont listen to him! Hes just a poser. You know he likes cheeseburgers and fried chicken!Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalslug 31 #8 July 19, 2006 It's looks to me like a good attempt to be "South African", although as Squeak points out there several things on the menu that one may find on menus any other place in the world. South African cuisine has influences from Europe (Dutch, German, Portuguese), Malaysia, India and indigenous African ideas. I would guess that most of the peri-peri items on the menu are from Portuguese (or Angolan/Mozambique) recipes. Although South Africa has about 1,550 miles of coastline, I wasn't aware that Crab Pastries were popular, very seldom seen those here. The Bobotie is originaly a Malay recipe, as is also the Sosaties. QuoteThe word 'sosatie' comes from the Malay word sesate, which means 'meat on skewers'. Sosaties are a unique example of an original Muslim dish that did not contain pork, but did contain sheep-tail fat. Over the years, sosaties have become typically South African. Sosaties should be prepared three days in advance, and should always contain lamb. In a true sosatie, there are no other ingredients apart from meat, onions, bacon, apricots and bay or lemon leaves. If other kinds of meat or a mixture of meats are used, it's called a kebab. Also, if you add sweet peppers or marinated prunes, you also have a kebab. The sosaties on the menu appear to have only meat on the skewer, a single meat type, and are served with apricots which makes them quite authentic based on the above definition. I'm a little surprised not to see "potjiekos" (pot-food) on the menu, traditionaly a type of meat and vegetable stew slow-cooked in a cast iron pot over hot coals. Not bad though overall, IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #9 July 19, 2006 so, what an ostrich medallion?My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites metalslug 31 #10 July 19, 2006 Quoteso, what an ostrich medallion A small fillet steak, typicaly 125gr and cut to be almost perfectly round, to look like a medallion. I was about to describe an ostrich too, but I'll assume you know what those are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Tonto 1 #11 July 19, 2006 Looks Yummy! Certainly more South African than 99% of South African restuarants here... tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chanti 0 #12 July 19, 2006 Wow, I didn't think you could get places like that in the US! That's quite cool! It sounds about right, except for the grape leaves part - that's a new one for me. What did you eat? Also we South Africans are very proud of our wines, so you kinda have to have an SA wine with your meal ----------------------------------------------------------- -Chanti- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Peej 0 #13 July 19, 2006 Yup, now i'm just hungry! Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites VampireGirl 0 #14 July 19, 2006 That's a really good menu, and yes, pretty much what you would find on a menu in a restaurant in SA. mmm fancy the calamari now...www.sneale-create.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Beverly 1 #15 July 19, 2006 Yeah, I would say it wa as close as you can come. There are the traditionals like Boerewors and boboeti, although being South African myself I don't eat either - yuk! nor pap. EEEUUU! So I would rather go for the calamari or fish myself. I think true friendship is under-rated Twitter: @Dreamskygirlsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Erroll 53 #16 July 19, 2006 QuoteThat's a really good menu, and yes, pretty much what you would find on a menu in a restaurant in SA. . Indeed. A very good menu with a nice variety, although we don't refer to lamb chops as lollipop chops! As a matter of interest, what do the typical (non SA) diners think they are getting when they order Boerewors and pap ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites VampireGirl 0 #17 July 19, 2006 Yeah, the pap is a funny one, esp as we used to get someone to make a batch up in the morning to feed to our dogs! Also, speaking of feeding dogs, in some places in the world (China I think) chicken head and feet are a delicacy, and this is what we fed our dogs for ages. We would buy "heads and feet" for them all the time! www.sneale-create.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumper03 0 #18 July 19, 2006 Vegetarians must be rare in S.A.... Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Erroll 53 #19 July 19, 2006 QuoteYeah, the pap is a funny one, esp as we used to get someone to make a batch up in the morning to feed to our dogs! Quote But there is a huge difference between morning pap (a.k.a porridge) and the pap one eats with boerewors or chops (and lots of gravy)! Is there even an English name for stywe pap??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Peej 0 #20 July 19, 2006 QuoteVegetarians must be rare in S.A.... We feed them to the Lions, it helps to keep their collestrol down. Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Corazon 1 #21 July 19, 2006 OK, so a traditional Sosatie is made with sheep tail fat??? That's right next to it's butt, so it's made with ass fat?EEWW!Ashley Martin "Corazon" Rodriguez PMS #462 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NWFlyer 2 #22 July 19, 2006 QuoteWow, I didn't think you could get places like that in the US! That's quite cool! It sounds about right, except for the grape leaves part - that's a new one for me. What did you eat? Also we South Africans are very proud of our wines, so you kinda have to have an SA wine with your meal ----------------------------------------------------------- Their web site claims they're the only South African restaurant in the U.S. Someone else ordered the wine, so I'm not sure if it was South African or not. I had the chicken curry as my entree, and we shared most of the appetizers for the whole table. (And I did try a bite of my coworker's ostrich medallion, which was pretty tasty). Thanks everyone for your replies ... I always like to try new cuisine, and this one was a totally new experience for me. I'm glad to hear it was at least somewhat authentic."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NWFlyer 2 #23 July 19, 2006 QuoteIndeed. A very good menu with a nice variety, although we don't refer to lamb chops as lollipop chops! It's not the usual way of referring to them here, either - I think it is used to distinguish the smaller chops (lollipop) from larger ones. QuoteAs a matter of interest, what do the typical (non SA) diners think they are getting when they order Boerewors and pap ? I have no idea! What is pap, anyway? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #24 July 19, 2006 Bobotie LEKKER!!!!When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NWFlyer 2 #25 July 19, 2006 QuoteBobotie LEKKER!!!! Now I'm thinking I have to go back there to try the bobotie. I almost ordered it but decided on the chicken curry instead (which was delicious). 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jtval 0 #9 July 19, 2006 so, what an ostrich medallion?My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalslug 31 #10 July 19, 2006 Quoteso, what an ostrich medallion A small fillet steak, typicaly 125gr and cut to be almost perfectly round, to look like a medallion. I was about to describe an ostrich too, but I'll assume you know what those are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #11 July 19, 2006 Looks Yummy! Certainly more South African than 99% of South African restuarants here... tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chanti 0 #12 July 19, 2006 Wow, I didn't think you could get places like that in the US! That's quite cool! It sounds about right, except for the grape leaves part - that's a new one for me. What did you eat? Also we South Africans are very proud of our wines, so you kinda have to have an SA wine with your meal ----------------------------------------------------------- -Chanti- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #13 July 19, 2006 Yup, now i'm just hungry! Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VampireGirl 0 #14 July 19, 2006 That's a really good menu, and yes, pretty much what you would find on a menu in a restaurant in SA. mmm fancy the calamari now...www.sneale-create.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beverly 1 #15 July 19, 2006 Yeah, I would say it wa as close as you can come. There are the traditionals like Boerewors and boboeti, although being South African myself I don't eat either - yuk! nor pap. EEEUUU! So I would rather go for the calamari or fish myself. I think true friendship is under-rated Twitter: @Dreamskygirlsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 53 #16 July 19, 2006 QuoteThat's a really good menu, and yes, pretty much what you would find on a menu in a restaurant in SA. . Indeed. A very good menu with a nice variety, although we don't refer to lamb chops as lollipop chops! As a matter of interest, what do the typical (non SA) diners think they are getting when they order Boerewors and pap ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VampireGirl 0 #17 July 19, 2006 Yeah, the pap is a funny one, esp as we used to get someone to make a batch up in the morning to feed to our dogs! Also, speaking of feeding dogs, in some places in the world (China I think) chicken head and feet are a delicacy, and this is what we fed our dogs for ages. We would buy "heads and feet" for them all the time! www.sneale-create.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Erroll 53 #19 July 19, 2006 QuoteYeah, the pap is a funny one, esp as we used to get someone to make a batch up in the morning to feed to our dogs! Quote But there is a huge difference between morning pap (a.k.a porridge) and the pap one eats with boerewors or chops (and lots of gravy)! Is there even an English name for stywe pap??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Peej 0 #20 July 19, 2006 QuoteVegetarians must be rare in S.A.... We feed them to the Lions, it helps to keep their collestrol down. Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Corazon 1 #21 July 19, 2006 OK, so a traditional Sosatie is made with sheep tail fat??? That's right next to it's butt, so it's made with ass fat?EEWW!Ashley Martin "Corazon" Rodriguez PMS #462 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NWFlyer 2 #22 July 19, 2006 QuoteWow, I didn't think you could get places like that in the US! That's quite cool! It sounds about right, except for the grape leaves part - that's a new one for me. What did you eat? Also we South Africans are very proud of our wines, so you kinda have to have an SA wine with your meal ----------------------------------------------------------- Their web site claims they're the only South African restaurant in the U.S. Someone else ordered the wine, so I'm not sure if it was South African or not. I had the chicken curry as my entree, and we shared most of the appetizers for the whole table. (And I did try a bite of my coworker's ostrich medallion, which was pretty tasty). Thanks everyone for your replies ... I always like to try new cuisine, and this one was a totally new experience for me. I'm glad to hear it was at least somewhat authentic."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NWFlyer 2 #23 July 19, 2006 QuoteIndeed. A very good menu with a nice variety, although we don't refer to lamb chops as lollipop chops! It's not the usual way of referring to them here, either - I think it is used to distinguish the smaller chops (lollipop) from larger ones. QuoteAs a matter of interest, what do the typical (non SA) diners think they are getting when they order Boerewors and pap ? I have no idea! What is pap, anyway? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #24 July 19, 2006 Bobotie LEKKER!!!!When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NWFlyer 2 #25 July 19, 2006 QuoteBobotie LEKKER!!!! Now I'm thinking I have to go back there to try the bobotie. I almost ordered it but decided on the chicken curry instead (which was delicious). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
Peej 0 #20 July 19, 2006 QuoteVegetarians must be rare in S.A.... We feed them to the Lions, it helps to keep their collestrol down. Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corazon 1 #21 July 19, 2006 OK, so a traditional Sosatie is made with sheep tail fat??? That's right next to it's butt, so it's made with ass fat?EEWW!Ashley Martin "Corazon" Rodriguez PMS #462 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #22 July 19, 2006 QuoteWow, I didn't think you could get places like that in the US! That's quite cool! It sounds about right, except for the grape leaves part - that's a new one for me. What did you eat? Also we South Africans are very proud of our wines, so you kinda have to have an SA wine with your meal ----------------------------------------------------------- Their web site claims they're the only South African restaurant in the U.S. Someone else ordered the wine, so I'm not sure if it was South African or not. I had the chicken curry as my entree, and we shared most of the appetizers for the whole table. (And I did try a bite of my coworker's ostrich medallion, which was pretty tasty). Thanks everyone for your replies ... I always like to try new cuisine, and this one was a totally new experience for me. I'm glad to hear it was at least somewhat authentic."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #23 July 19, 2006 QuoteIndeed. A very good menu with a nice variety, although we don't refer to lamb chops as lollipop chops! It's not the usual way of referring to them here, either - I think it is used to distinguish the smaller chops (lollipop) from larger ones. QuoteAs a matter of interest, what do the typical (non SA) diners think they are getting when they order Boerewors and pap ? I have no idea! What is pap, anyway? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #24 July 19, 2006 Bobotie LEKKER!!!!When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #25 July 19, 2006 QuoteBobotie LEKKER!!!! Now I'm thinking I have to go back there to try the bobotie. I almost ordered it but decided on the chicken curry instead (which was delicious). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites