Katherine 0 #1 August 2, 2006 Hi, not sure if this is the right forum, but what do you guys think - scam or not? I think a wee bit dodgy. [in reference to a rig this person had for sale] .............. Hello, Katherine we can deal safe easy and fast .Like i told you i will ship the rig to your home.I will pay all the shipping taxes , so you don't need to worry about that .Like you said for my safety i want you to make a deposit at western union on my address from London UK , but please change the name of the receiver into what name you want (your husband,brother,father's name ) i want just to verify the deposit at western union and after that i will send you the rig. After you test it and jump with it , if you keep it you need to go again at western union and change the name of the receiver into my real name so i can pick up the amount . If you don't like it you send it back with no charges , i will pay them , but is hard to belive that if you want to buy it you will send it back it has only 1 jump and is almoast new . Also about the fees you need to pay at western union for this deposit ,if you don't agree to pay them , you can take from the total amount how much you need to pay . I make all this because i really want to sell it fast . For inspection i can let you only 5 days , hope it's ok . I wait your answer. ............... So, scam or no scam?Leeds University Skydiving Club www.skydiveleeds.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 August 2, 2006 My rule of thumb is if it *sounds* shady, then it quite possibly is. So I tend to steer clear of those situations when it comes to my stuff and/or my money.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharimcm 0 #3 August 2, 2006 SCAM!! Do not do it! "I had a dude tip his black cowboy hat to me after I provided him with a condom outside my hotel room at 3-something in the morning." -myself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pincheck 0 #4 August 2, 2006 walk away Billy-Sonic Haggis Flickr-Fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #5 August 2, 2006 do you know the person ? does the person post here ? try and get references from people you know. It's a small world.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #7 August 2, 2006 Western Union = Scam in most cases.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Programmer 0 #8 August 2, 2006 I agree with everything posted above. Another thing you can check on when buying gear is to find out where the seller jumped with it. Call that dropzone and find out who the rigger is. They should have a record of a reserve repack. If the rigger and dropzone owner don't know the seller or the gear, ask the seller some more questions before you send any money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katherine 0 #9 August 2, 2006 The photos the 'seller' sent me look just like a rig that was for sale a while ago, could have been lifted straight off there. Think I will stay well clear of this one. Although the proce has dropped to £997...what a joke since it apparently has 1 jump on itCheers for the second oppinionsLeeds University Skydiving Club www.skydiveleeds.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #10 August 2, 2006 Quotereckon two questions, do they really say rekon in the uk? also, if you live in the uk, and so does the seller why dont you just meet them somewhere. the country isnt THAT big.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Katherine 0 #11 August 3, 2006 Quote two questions, do they really say rekon in the uk? Well, I do Quotealso, if you live in the uk, and so does the seller why dont you just meet them somewhere. the country isnt THAT big.. Yeah, I offered to meet them at a dz about halfway ish, about 1 h for them and about 2 for me. Not intersted so not going to have anything more to do with them.Leeds University Skydiving Club www.skydiveleeds.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #12 August 3, 2006 QuoteHi, not sure if this is the right forum, but what do you guys think - scam or not? I think a wee bit dodgy. [in reference to a rig this person had for sale] .............. Hello, Katherine we can deal safe easy and fast .Like i told you i will ship the rig to your home.I will pay all the shipping taxes , so you don't need to worry about that .Like you said for my safety i want you to make a deposit at western union on my address from London UK , but please change the name of the receiver into what name you want (your husband,brother,father's name ) i want just to verify the deposit at western union and after that i will send you the rig. After you test it and jump with it , if you keep it you need to go again at western union and change the name of the receiver into my real name so i can pick up the amount . If you don't like it you send it back with no charges , i will pay them , but is hard to belive that if you want to buy it you will send it back it has only 1 jump and is almoast new . Also about the fees you need to pay at western union for this deposit ,if you don't agree to pay them , you can take from the total amount how much you need to pay . I make all this because i really want to sell it fast . For inspection i can let you only 5 days , hope it's ok . I wait your answer. ............... So, scam or no scam? contact the Postal Inspectors this is an attempt at mail and wire fraud. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #13 August 3, 2006 i had a guy from UK try to scam me the same way.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites vpozzoli 0 #14 August 3, 2006 Deifinitely a scam, brilliant, but a scam nonetheless. Making a transfer in someone else's name through Western Union or whatever provides no guarantee to the seller. There is nothing preventing you from collecting the money and never actually paying for the goods. If they wanted a real guarantee they would have suggested a real escrow service, but that's obviously not what they're looking for. They will obviously cash it even if it's under your father's name (counterfeit ID?) without leaving any trace of their real identity. They're getting smarter every day Cheers, Vale Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Auram 0 #15 August 3, 2006 Not sure it's brilliant. but had someone do the same to me. When I suggested using an Escrow site, they sent me to some escrow website that had been created 3 days before their auction yet had tons of "testimonials" every part of that website was lifted from elsewhere on the net. walk away Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gweeks 1 #16 August 3, 2006 A promising new skydiver at our DZ just lost $1500 to a Western Union scam. The scammer put an ad on dz.com, set up a fake escrow company website and asked for our unsuspecting jumper to send the money to the escrow company via western union. The day after she sent her money the website was gone and the poster of the ad would not return email. The poster said he was from the UK and the fake escrow company was based in the UK. She doesn't even know where to start to try to investigate so she's just considering the money lost . She said the poster of the ad sounded like a skydiver because he knew the lingo. Watch out for yourselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Katherine 0 #17 August 3, 2006 Yep, I just sent them yet another email saying that I really didn't want anything to do with Western Union, so they have suggested an escrow service, "I know an very good one, have recieved many high value goods with it in past" hmmm Getting board with them now, I keep saying I don't want to deal with them, they keep coming up with more and more complicated ways to "deal safe and easy"Leeds University Skydiving Club www.skydiveleeds.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites marks 0 #18 August 3, 2006 QuoteI keep saying I don't want to deal with them, they keep coming up with more and more complicated ways to "deal safe and easy" messege them back and say. "just meet me, it is safe and easy, I can't buy a gun to shoot you with in the UK" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Katherine 0 #19 August 3, 2006 Quote messege them back and say. "just meet me, it is safe and easy, I can't buy a gun to shoot you with in the UK" Those kitchen knives are still fairly sharp though... Then have sent me their 'address' and photos of the lables on the canopy and rig to assure me of their 'genuine' status.Leeds University Skydiving Club www.skydiveleeds.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Katherine 0 #11 August 3, 2006 Quote two questions, do they really say rekon in the uk? Well, I do Quotealso, if you live in the uk, and so does the seller why dont you just meet them somewhere. the country isnt THAT big.. Yeah, I offered to meet them at a dz about halfway ish, about 1 h for them and about 2 for me. Not intersted so not going to have anything more to do with them.Leeds University Skydiving Club www.skydiveleeds.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #12 August 3, 2006 QuoteHi, not sure if this is the right forum, but what do you guys think - scam or not? I think a wee bit dodgy. [in reference to a rig this person had for sale] .............. Hello, Katherine we can deal safe easy and fast .Like i told you i will ship the rig to your home.I will pay all the shipping taxes , so you don't need to worry about that .Like you said for my safety i want you to make a deposit at western union on my address from London UK , but please change the name of the receiver into what name you want (your husband,brother,father's name ) i want just to verify the deposit at western union and after that i will send you the rig. After you test it and jump with it , if you keep it you need to go again at western union and change the name of the receiver into my real name so i can pick up the amount . If you don't like it you send it back with no charges , i will pay them , but is hard to belive that if you want to buy it you will send it back it has only 1 jump and is almoast new . Also about the fees you need to pay at western union for this deposit ,if you don't agree to pay them , you can take from the total amount how much you need to pay . I make all this because i really want to sell it fast . For inspection i can let you only 5 days , hope it's ok . I wait your answer. ............... So, scam or no scam? contact the Postal Inspectors this is an attempt at mail and wire fraud. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #13 August 3, 2006 i had a guy from UK try to scam me the same way.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vpozzoli 0 #14 August 3, 2006 Deifinitely a scam, brilliant, but a scam nonetheless. Making a transfer in someone else's name through Western Union or whatever provides no guarantee to the seller. There is nothing preventing you from collecting the money and never actually paying for the goods. If they wanted a real guarantee they would have suggested a real escrow service, but that's obviously not what they're looking for. They will obviously cash it even if it's under your father's name (counterfeit ID?) without leaving any trace of their real identity. They're getting smarter every day Cheers, Vale Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auram 0 #15 August 3, 2006 Not sure it's brilliant. but had someone do the same to me. When I suggested using an Escrow site, they sent me to some escrow website that had been created 3 days before their auction yet had tons of "testimonials" every part of that website was lifted from elsewhere on the net. walk away Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gweeks 1 #16 August 3, 2006 A promising new skydiver at our DZ just lost $1500 to a Western Union scam. The scammer put an ad on dz.com, set up a fake escrow company website and asked for our unsuspecting jumper to send the money to the escrow company via western union. The day after she sent her money the website was gone and the poster of the ad would not return email. The poster said he was from the UK and the fake escrow company was based in the UK. She doesn't even know where to start to try to investigate so she's just considering the money lost . She said the poster of the ad sounded like a skydiver because he knew the lingo. Watch out for yourselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katherine 0 #17 August 3, 2006 Yep, I just sent them yet another email saying that I really didn't want anything to do with Western Union, so they have suggested an escrow service, "I know an very good one, have recieved many high value goods with it in past" hmmm Getting board with them now, I keep saying I don't want to deal with them, they keep coming up with more and more complicated ways to "deal safe and easy"Leeds University Skydiving Club www.skydiveleeds.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #18 August 3, 2006 QuoteI keep saying I don't want to deal with them, they keep coming up with more and more complicated ways to "deal safe and easy" messege them back and say. "just meet me, it is safe and easy, I can't buy a gun to shoot you with in the UK" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katherine 0 #19 August 3, 2006 Quote messege them back and say. "just meet me, it is safe and easy, I can't buy a gun to shoot you with in the UK" Those kitchen knives are still fairly sharp though... Then have sent me their 'address' and photos of the lables on the canopy and rig to assure me of their 'genuine' status.Leeds University Skydiving Club www.skydiveleeds.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
