Muenkel 0 #26 December 20, 2007 I feel sorry for the person who would turn a thread about a mother wanting to fulfill her 13 yr olds Christmas wish into SC fodder.That would be one sad fucker. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #27 December 20, 2007 Quotethis Christmas? Anyone going to midnight service? My oldest son (soon to be 13)said that he would like to attend church this sunday. I feel I need to do that for him. Now I just need to find a church that I feel comfortable with. My choices are either the Methodist church, Church of God, or the Episcopal church. Bobbi We always attend. If you're not sure about a church, maybe find a "non-denominational" church in your area. Merry Christmas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #28 December 20, 2007 QuoteQuoteI understand where your coming from, but since he asked, who am I to say no. He needs to figure out the religion "thing" on his own. Whether or not he wants to go that route or whatever....its a personal choice, one that I can't make for him. Bobbi I can understand going for the kid. I go with my mom when I can get home for christmas. She knows how I feel about organized religion, but if it makes my mom happy, I don't mind going to church. I think I actually pay more attention now that I did when I was kid going every week. jBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #29 December 20, 2007 The Episcopalians are more likely to sing hymns you've heard of, Silent Night, O Come All Ye Faithfull, stuff like that. Find one that has a pipe organ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #30 December 20, 2007 white church black church Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jewels 0 #31 December 20, 2007 QuoteThe methodist church's Pastor is a jerk. Total upheaval over there, BUT there youth group is huge and pretty cool. If he wants to go all the time, so be it. I certainly wouldn't want to stop him from trying to find himself. Bobbi It's never good when the pastor is a jerk, but if they have some other good leaders working with the kids, it might be okay. You just want to know that you're comfortable with whoever's going to be in charge.TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #32 December 20, 2007 Find a Lutheran church. They like to drink. Alot. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaoskitty 0 #33 December 20, 2007 I've found that the drop zone is a lot like church. People originally go to church to worship God and find fellowship with other Christians. People originally go to the drop zone to skydive and find fellowship with other skydivers. The more you go to church and study the Bible, the more educated you become about Christianity. The more you go to the drop zone and study the SIM, the more educated you become about skydiving. The more you go to church, the more obsessed with Christianity you become. You start teaching sunday school classes, vacation bible school, become a deacon, board member, sing in the choir, etc. Anytime the church doors are open, you're there selling cookies or setting up tables and chairs for the next potluck dinner. Before you know it, you're involved in church politics and its drama drama drama. The more you go to the drop zone, the more obssessed with skydiving you become. You get your coaches rating, teach first jump courses, help plan boogies, recruit people from other drop zones to come to your boogies, organize hit and chugs, form smaller sects of the community like Rodriguez, muff, pink mafia, etc. Before you know it, you're involved in the dz politics and its drama drama drama. Your church friends become your best friends and sometimes your only friends.. as long as you show up to church. Your dropzone friends are your best friends and sometimes your only friends, as long as you show up to the drop zone. Then theres the Christmas and Easter church goers. They're not very current so the chruch in-crowd doesn't really pay attention to them or make them feel like a part of the church. Just like theres the boogie goers. They're not very current so the dz in-crowd doesn't really pay attention to them or make them feel like a part of the sport. I could go on and on... but do I have to? Some of us do the religious "thing", some of us do the skydiving "thing". Some of us do both. Whatever fulfills your spiritual needs. Merry Christmas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #34 December 20, 2007 Very well put.Bobbi A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #35 December 20, 2007 Actually please go on. I think you make great comparisons. I'm being totally serious. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaoskitty 0 #36 December 20, 2007 Quote I'm being totally serious. Well now I know I'm being set up! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #37 December 20, 2007 Quote Quote I'm being totally serious. Well now I know I'm being set up! You don't believe me. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaoskitty 0 #38 December 20, 2007 Quote Quote Quote I'm being totally serious. Well now I know I'm being set up! You don't believe me. I think I posted enough examples to get my point across. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lauraliscious 0 #39 December 20, 2007 Quote form smaller sects of the community like Rodriguez, muff, pink mafia, Team 'Licious, etc. Before you know it, you're involved in the dz politics and its drama drama drama. Excellent post Kitty! I've always felt more spritual and closer to God at a DZ jumping on a Sunday morning than I EVER felt at church. And I had lots of church growing up, thanks to Catholic grade school and Presbyterian Sunday school. No church for me this Christmas. Just lots of time with my family. But if it was important to my parents, or the other people I love, to go to church on Christmas then I would go with them to share that time. I think it's excellent to take your child to church if they express the interest to go. I do think exposure to religion is good, and then the kid can choose for themself what's important to them. Merry Christmas everyone! Enemiga Rodriguez, PMS #369, OrFun #25, Team Dirty Sanchez #116, Pelt Head #29, Muff #4091 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #40 December 20, 2007 Bobbi, I double dare you to take him to this church! Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 1 #41 December 20, 2007 Ask your son where his friends go? Maybe that is a start.She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mamajumps 0 #42 December 20, 2007 Wow how incredibly true that was!!!! Scarey, but true!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #43 December 20, 2007 Quote I've found that the drop zone is a lot like church. People originally go to church to worship God and find fellowship with other Christians. People originally go to the drop zone to skydive and find fellowship with other skydivers. The more you go to church and study the Bible, the more educated you become about Christianity. The more you go to the drop zone and study the SIM, the more educated you become about skydiving. The more you go to church, the more obsessed with Christianity you become. You start teaching sunday school classes, vacation bible school, become a deacon, board member, sing in the choir, etc. Anytime the church doors are open, you're there selling cookies or setting up tables and chairs for the next potluck dinner. Before you know it, you're involved in church politics and its drama drama drama. The more you go to the drop zone, the more obssessed with skydiving you become. You get your coaches rating, teach first jump courses, help plan boogies, recruit people from other drop zones to come to your boogies, organize hit and chugs, form smaller sects of the community like Rodriguez, muff, pink mafia, etc. Before you know it, you're involved in the dz politics and its drama drama drama. Your church friends become your best friends and sometimes your only friends.. as long as you show up to church. Your dropzone friends are your best friends and sometimes your only friends, as long as you show up to the drop zone. Then theres the Christmas and Easter church goers. They're not very current so the chruch in-crowd doesn't really pay attention to them or make them feel like a part of the church. Just like theres the boogie goers. They're not very current so the dz in-crowd doesn't really pay attention to them or make them feel like a part of the sport. I could go on and on... but do I have to? Some of us do the religious "thing", some of us do the skydiving "thing". Some of us do both. Whatever fulfills your spiritual needs. Merry Christmas. Sorry, you lost me there. I started laughing and choked on my beer and passed out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #44 December 20, 2007 Quote white church black church Walt That's fucking hilarious! Here's arguably one of the best white singing groups around, The Mormon Tabernacle Choir versus The Harlem Gospel Choir. I searched and searched for the Jennifer Holliday + full gospel choir doing "Short People" at a funeral on Ally McBeal, but it was removed from youtube due to a copyright thing. You'll just have to trust me that it was incredibly better than this. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #45 December 20, 2007 QuoteThe Mormon Tabernacle Choir versus The Harlem Gospel Choir. Yeah, that's what I'm talkin' 'bout!!!! Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #46 December 20, 2007 Quote I understand where your coming from, but since he asked, who am I to say no. He needs to figure out the religion "thing" on his own. Whether or not he wants to go that route or whatever....its a personal choice, one that I can't make for him. Bobbi Well if you are confused and need some guidance, maybe you should look into going to a Unitarian Universalist Church where they have a mixture of everything. Its a great place where i.e. so called people who claim to be christians can attend church with so called Jews and even Buddhists, Hindus, Pagans, Atheists, Agnostics, Humanists and many many more.But don't bring up christmas or the Christ Child, tends to cause a great deal of agument around this time of year. Methodist Church, would be a good place for your son, many of these churches have excellent programs for young kids, as well as making your Chistmas with your son very special. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #47 December 20, 2007 Quote Quote The Mormon Tabernacle Choir versus The Harlem Gospel Choir. Yeah, that's what I'm talkin' 'bout!!!! Walt I'm still listening to the Harlem one...for like the 4th or 5th time. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kschilk 0 #48 December 21, 2007 Quote Geee, thanks. I try.OBTW, I got him a shit load of Beatles stuff for Christmas, PLUS an electric guitar!! B Will you adopt me!?! "T'was ever thus." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racer42 0 #49 December 21, 2007 Quote Find a Lutheran church. They like to drink. Alot. I would suggest Lutheran or the Episcopal church. Both are very welcoming and the services can be quite beautiful. Also they are serious party denominations. Cause wherever you find 4 Episcopalians there is always a fifth.Of course we Presbyterians would never approve of that.L.A.S.T. #24 Co-Founder Biscuit Brothers Freefly Team Electric Toaster #3 Co-Founder Team Non Sequitor Co-Founder Team Happy Sock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #50 December 21, 2007 Quotethis Christmas? Anyone going to midnight service? My oldest son (soon to be 13)said that he would like to attend church this sunday. I feel I need to do that for him. Now I just need to find a church that I feel comfortable with. My choices are either the Methodist church, Church of God, or the Episcopal church. Bobbi Oh forgot to add. It is "Christ" in Christmas. Read this today, http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/20/roland.martin/index.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
