billvon 2,435 #26 October 15, 2008 We spent the day in our back yard watching the airshow. (We're about 2 miles from Miramar.) We could see most of what was going on and we had good beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simplyputsi 0 #27 October 15, 2008 Well I know that back about 15 years ago that the Thunderbirds put on quite a show at Edwards AFB, and I'm sure other places. Now the Blue Angels show I saw a few years ago was good, but I left thinking, that's it? I know they have had to change a lot of maneuvers in the past years and that probably has something to do with it. I'm sure the thunderbirds are not what they used to be. I don't like the blanket statement though, just my opinion.Skymama's #2 stalker - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #28 October 15, 2008 See, not hard was it? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #29 October 15, 2008 The Thunderbirds used to be a lot better than they are today but they've toned it down quite a bit. The Blue Angels are still flying the risky manuevers that I see no other team trying these days. Of course I haven't seen the Russina team and from what I hear, they're nuts.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #30 October 15, 2008 Oh get the fuck off your horse you....you www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mamajumps 0 #31 October 15, 2008 Your pics are amaing! Thanks for sharing! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simplyputsi 0 #32 October 15, 2008 I saw very few, if any, risky maneuvers in the show I saw. Well hold on because most of it is risky, but I'm talking the high speed near misses of old, none of those. I actually think that is just fine as well. Why risk lives and millions of dollars of airplanes just to be risky? I believe that is why it has been toned down. Anyway, this thread shouldn't be about the Blue Angels, it should be about ALL the awesome pics of Conundrum!!Skymama's #2 stalker - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #33 October 15, 2008 QuoteWhat makes you think that they are better than anyone else? Spending a bunch of hours rating aerobatics. It's kinda what I do. Like I said, I don't deal with military teams but when you're used to judging performers you can't turn it off just because you don't need to judge these guys.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #34 October 15, 2008 Quote Golden Knights in wingsuits, nice. That's Ben, he is bborger here on DZ.com"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #35 October 15, 2008 Quote I wouldn't say beat, but the Red Arrows , PAF etc... are all professionals and rate very highly, but to call one team better than the other is pure arrogance. Not really. I think the Blue Angels are better than the Thunderbirds. Their formations are more tightly knit, they do better and faster maneuvers, and they have better aircraft. Not to mention Fat Albert. So there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #36 October 15, 2008 Quote Fat Albert. So there. Tough to beat JATO, ain't it?You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #37 October 15, 2008 Quote Quote Fat Albert. So there. Tough to beat JATO, ain't it? Yeah but they didn't do it at the Friday show. I was extremely disappointed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #38 October 15, 2008 [sulk] yanks ganging up on me.... I'll forgive them because they know no better (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #39 October 15, 2008 If it makes you feel better, I think the Arrows are better than the Snowbirds You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #40 October 15, 2008 Leave your Northern cousins alone. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bertt 0 #41 October 15, 2008 The older airplane in that pic is a P-51 World War II era fighter. One of the best in the American fleet. Think Chuck Yeager, Tuskeegee Airmen, etc. Lot's of them still flying in the hands of those who can afford the maintenance. Great photos. Looks like a good show.You don't have to outrun the bear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,259 #42 October 15, 2008 QuoteI saw very few, if any, risky maneuvers in the show I saw. Well hold on because most of it is risky, but I'm talking the high speed near misses of old, none of those. I think the Frecce Tricolori at Rammstein kinda put a stop to those! (As to the "who's best" debate, I'm not sure how anyone can compare a 4 ship to a 9 ship formation (BA to RA) team and say which of them flies better, the dynamics are just too different.)Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingJ 0 #43 October 15, 2008 Wow, very impressed with the pics. Was a nice break in the day taking a few minutes to browse through them. THANKS!Killing threads since 2004. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #44 October 15, 2008 Quote Why risk lives and millions of dollars of airplanes just to be risky? Not to belittle the risk, because it is very real (I've got the Gone West entries in my phone book to prove it) But, done right, it's mostly perception. My pal Rob Holland put it *rough quote* "I don't do stunts, I do aerobatics". The best performers set up a show and use forced perspective at show center to make things look closer than they are.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
