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You mean, for example, banning abortions after a "fetal heartbeat" standard? Or negotiating with other men another but more middle ground standard? But in every case taking a degree of autonomy from a women to make their own health care decisions in accordance with their own beliefs? Yes, that would be icky, for sure.
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The Continent’s Consensus on Climate?……Crumbling
SkyDekker replied to brenthutch's topic in Speakers Corner
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Weird to see you argue how socialists and communists are so much better than you.
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In short, I was playing along with the beat me up game and turning the tables a bit to find the "icky" part. My position still remains the same and I do wish that RvW had not been revoked - because I do believe in the end, the women have a lot more to consider in their personal situation about the issue than men. Cause, ya know - not all men can be trusted to do the right thing.
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Is that trass in stead of trans?
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Depends on if you're trying to remove an asshole.
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Fair enough, still leaves why you would want to legislate something that is very rare.
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And they aren't a medical procedure.
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Did you stay at his new place in the hills? Was good to see it didn't burn down.
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Post trump Legal Actions, Including his Enablers
SkyDekker replied to Phil1111's topic in Speakers Corner
The Liberal justices really missed an opportunity to ask: If Biden were to order the assassination of the conservative members of this court because of their inability to place law before politics, do you believe Biden would have presidential immunity? -
I'm doing my part . . .
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https://constitutioncenter.org/go/liberty-medal-2017-remarks-from-john-mccain-and-joe-biden
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OK. Let's use TK's argument. Why are guns my, your or the government's business? Because they kill.
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You & I disagree on the rape part, but we can disagree as gentlemen.
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Nope. Been very vocal about being opposed to the death penalty (in here and on the streets).
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As much as you are good with killing innocent people through the death penalty I guess. In the end these late term abortions are rare. Why do you feel the need to legislate for it?
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Woohoo! When my Enphase stock went through the roof, I moved it into an exchange fund to protect against a sudden drop - figured I'd 'lock in' that price and move it to something less risky. I tried with Tesla as well, but the exchange fund thought Tesla stock was too risk to include in the exchange. Back then it was around $150 and even my investment guy was saying "get out of Tesla!" Since then that's been the stock I sell when we have a big expenditure coming up (i.e. car.) I've sold as high as $300 although I missed the $400 peak.
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Pedantic: libel.
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Is it a library card? I was wondering where we went wrong.
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While there are a small minority of people who do in fact abort for birth control, they are mostly rich here in the US, and laws don’t do much to stop rich people. Poorer people seeking abortions tend to have had birth control failure, serious health issues in the mother or baby, or a drastic change in circumstances (eg gig-employed man leaves or dies unexpectedly). Yes, others’ determination of what’s critical may vary from mine, but so do their circumstances. I pretty much agree down the line with what Joe said about timing. As the only card-carrying woman who posts here any more, you’re just going to take it as at least one woman’s view Abortion is also a personal matter. Kind of like why someone let their child get a nose job Wendy P.
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Personally I'm not good with abortion AT ALL. It is usually the worst option after an unexpected pregnancy, and you're absolutely killing a potential human being. Yes, even in cases of rape. I just don't think it's my decision to make - a man who will never carry a baby, and who doesn't understand what's going on in that person's life. And it is DEFINITELY not a decision for a politician.
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I hope everyone bought Tesla stock when Brent predicted demise (again). Up 37% this past week. Tesla Inc NASDAQ: TSLA 196.14 USD▲ +53.71 (+37.97%) past week April 29, 12:54 PM EDT · Market Open
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if only that was actually a thing. I am not interested in enacting legislation that affects people's rights based on what some extremist thinks might happen. Are you in favor of basing policy in what is ACTUAL instead of what is dreamt up? again, gun legislation example.... what if I argued that, "well arguably ANY gun could, in time, kill EVERY SINGLE PERSON in the country, and therefore we should have no guns." Does not sound reasonable does it? So if you want to discuss facts, let's discuss them.
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Laws against rape have no basis in law? Laws against fraud have no basis in law? Laws against interfering in elections have no basis in law? I can guarantee you that if you or I sold someone a house that we told them, in writing, was a 6000 square foot house, but was actually a 3000 square foot house, we'd be in court very shortly, and end up being fined (at best) or serving jail time (at worst.) That's the law for little people. It is actually great to see even billionaires having to obey the law. Yep. Sadly, many conservatives like the idea of being able to sexually assault women and get away with it. If a billionaire rapist and fraudster who owns entire buildings and pays through the nose to suppress news stories about him banging starlets has managed to convince you that he's the "little man" - don't talk to anyone selling any bridges. Yes. Trump's cronies on the corrupt Supreme Court are working to get him elected. Although I hear this time it's going to take THREE superyacht cruises to convince Clarence Thomas to support a criminal for president. So give early, give often! Funny that. The people that are closest to Biden are his strongest supporters. The people who have worked with him, the people who have known him longest, even republicans who have fought with him speak highly of him. Christine Whitman. Meg Whitman. Colin Powell. Chuck Hagel. Even Mitt Romney. The people that are closest to Trump are now his strongest enemies. Bill Barr, Mike Pence, James Mattis, Mark Milley, John Bolton, John Kelly, Betsy DeVos, and Cassidy Hutchinson. Even his own family is now warning the country about the clear and present danger Trump presents to democracy.
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no I am not good with that. It is still a lump of useless cells that serves no purpose and it not even remotely close to being a 'baby' or even a 'life' My stance has NOTHING to do with whether or not there is a life, if it is alive, if it is a person, if it has a heartbeat, or anything else biologically or ethically about that thumbnail sized petri dish clump of cells. Let's ask again - are YOU good with women having (or should having) bodily autonomy or equal rights that men enjoy? Are you willing to say that under the law, women should NOT have rights to their body? Which is the effective result of any anti-abortion legislation. what say you? Not interested in discussing when life begins as I do not consider it relevant. Do you consider women's rights to be relevant?
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