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haha! I agree with you in principle, I love chasing puffy clouds with my wingsuit and flying for performance so I'm not personally too interested in doing formations (docked or slot specific). well, my curiosity was more like "why has it evolved so far this way and why not with docked" I wasn't trying to say that everybody should conform to one way or another I hope that is obvious. today was awesome there was clouds to 10k

^ don't you mean "wideo"?

why not make formations with wingsuits the same as every other discipline in skydiving where contact (dock) is required for the formation to build??? I was trying to explain that to my gf who saw a wingsuit formation picture and asked why they aren't "holding hands like the regular skydivers do" - I couldnt explain it at all.

why not fly a manta 288 and have fun freefalling for awhile until your knee heals up. you know your rig doesnt weigh anything in freefall!

about 20

well the damage of the heart attack can be reduced if on aspirin.

stupid reason to load yourself on a canopy that would kill you with the wrong split second decision. don't let your desired container dictate how fast things happen during an in-flight emergency (like somebody cutting you off on final).

what about diet, exercise, meditation?

or you can just hand tack it.

opening up the corners helped me especially if you like to pull in full flight it will help.

The actual steps vary, but depending on how much you weigh and what you do on your jumps, a few hundred of them are generally skydives. Get jumping

so you didnt have pics and video of the formation so it wasnt counted? that just makes it easier next year to break it

DSE: when does the TV movie about this come out?

two names you should google + downsizing Bill Von + downsizing Brian Germain + downsizing These two men are absolutely right on with their advice and they should be followed to the letter in your skydiving progression. I can safely say they are indisputely correct with their advice. Any deviation from them is dangerous. You should also err on the conservative side of their ranges (they give ranges where it is appropriate to be wingloading).

well I got a 205 F111 freepacked in a MT (designed for a 120 sq ft 9 cell ZP canopy) and the flik is probably made with ultralite material which packs 2 sizes smaller than regular f111. so a 266 is equivalent to a 225 F111 which is probably easily equivalent to a 170 9 cell ZP + dbag. I do also find it interesting that the main pack tray appears to be elongated. Perhaps there is more to it that first appears...longer main pack tray with freepacked ultralight base canopy + tiny optimum reserve less drag due to elongated pack tray (lays flatter against back) + low weight due to small reserve volume it would be fun as hell to jump this out of a plane near a gorge or some mountain...I'm sure it opens up a lot of proximity flights that are not possible with base exits (base you need at least 600-800 feet of vertical to get started I guess depending on flying skills) this way all you need is a plane and you can proximity fly any mountain in the world that has a good run (but lacks a vertical cliff). Proximity flying in the Karakoram anybody??? I've also always thought it to be spectacular to proximity fly Aconcagua. someday maybe for me not now

I see you've dipped your toes into the 200 square foot waters over 9 years. be careful man I think you are downsizing TOO FAST.

ultralight canopy material + 7 cell + no dbag = small pack volume easily see that going into a tray designed for a ZP 9 cell with a dbag.

ah thanks for that point Matt. Thats something I didnt think about having not flown those types of suits. I also pull from full flight.

Riiight... because spending hundreds of hours on this debate is so much easier than an outright ban. You've got it backwards, again. And exactly how tall are the antennae around you? I was being ironic they are 2,000' and 1950' and 1600'

well at least we will still be able to jump wingsuits off of Antennaes when USPA bans wingsuiting.

Then what would be "prototype" about it? nothing i suspect it is a marketing ploy to generate discussion. success. How do you know it is "just a mirage that he freepacked a vented base canopy in. with a normal reserve" I put two and two together. I'm sharp like that.

Then what would be "prototype" about it? nothing i suspect it is a marketing ploy to generate discussion. success.

Cell pressure doesn't differ much from one suit to another on modern wingsuits. The biggest difference between a harder and softer wing is how thick the actual wing is. Similar to inflatable beds, a bed of only a few cm thick with 1 atmosphere of pressure inside will be easier to bend/fold than an inflatable matras thats 50 cm thick. The thicker wing profile takes a lot of strain of the arm, but at the same times makes the wingsuit behave more like one surface (which in some of the bigger suits can lead to instability) also due to interconnected surfaces (leg input influencing arm-input and vice-versa). One isn't necessarily better than the other. But its more what the pilot prefers. Different manufacturers design towards different goals in terms of flying. interesting information! So what is the difference in thickness between say a V4 and an X3? Does it matter if you build the suit out of ZP or parapack? My friend was telling me something about 'locking' the pressurization of his X3 with some valve. I wasn't really following how it worked...that certainly sounds innovative and like it would make the wing more rigid (above and beyond simply the thickness of the material).

Again I'm going to ask, "Manufactures don't measure this kind of thing?" Parameters, canopy loaded 1:1, factory trim, assuming 0 winds to determine ground speed? Or glide efficiency? If the answer is no then well the answer is no. It was simply a question from me seeking insight to answer a question I was asked by a 12yo kid who himself just wanted to know more about the world he lives in. If that offends you? Well I'm sorry. Maybe you should not be clicking reply unless you have some useful info to provide? maybe a math equation or even better a link to a graph demonstrating the speed of the cannopy Vs it's size. (Sorry mate, having a bad day didn't mean to go off on you, it was wrong of me) Well assume....point mass? As in if your drag were taken into account of the average person. No offense taken. I just didnt understand what was so complicated. off the top of my head: air density drag of canopy pilot drag of different type of lines movement of canopy pilot in harness spread of risers windspeed All these factors will change glide ratio of canopy. Thats just looking at one type of canopy at one size. Take into account different sizes of canopies and you have even more variables (line length, size of canopy, etc). Too many variables for 'manufacturer' to give one answer. Only rough rule of thumb available.

Quade, Thank you that's what I was thinking but was not 100% sure. One of the kids asked me how fast my 210 Tri traveled, ground speed. And I honestly did not know. I guessed about 25mph but that was just a guess. But manufactures don't measure this kind of thing? thats like asking how long a piece of string is. It depends on the piece of string. Groundspeed depends on windspeed and airspeed. how can you quote his post and still ask this question? Did you read his post?