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Redline, in association with the Parachute Center, Rigging Innovations, and NZ Aerosports, announces the Annual West Coast CRW Challenge! Who: any crw dog or wannabee! When: 30th of July to the 1st of August. Dates have been changed from the traditional Fourth of July weekend so you won't miss mommy's potato salad. If you can't make Friday, that's okay, we'll get you caught up on Saturday! Where: Lodi, CA What: Sequential, Rotation, and Two-way...four rounds of each. Judging by national-rated judges. Cost: $20 registration for the meet per person, $0/jump. Includes dinner Saturday night! Redline will pay for your competition jumps! (no go-arounds and no rejumps!) We also reserve the right to not pay for any obvious non-competitor. Why: Because we want people to jump! And it's excellent practice for the Nationals! Absolutely No hook turns! Check the info at: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=119697648048047&ref=mf top Jump more, post less!

If you have the DVD of it, watch the "making of" section, you'll see the stunt jumpers, film guys, etc. Way educational. I like the fight in the kitchen, just like a real team meeting! top Jump more, post less!

Why would I give you a ride back??!! Seriously though, we are buying jumps! Who wants free jumps? top Jump more, post less!

You have to do crw.....? No catch. Register, jump for free.

Redline, in association with the Parachute Center, Rigging Innovations, and NZ Aerosports, announces the Annual West Coast CRW Challenge! Who: any crw dog or wannabee! When: 30th of July to the 1st of August. Dates have been changed from the traditional Fourth of July weekend so you won't miss mommy's potato salad. If you can't make Friday, that's okay, we'll get you caught up! Where: Lodi, CA What: Sequential, Rotation, and Two-way- four rounds of each. Judging by national-rated judges. Cost: $20 registration for the meet per person, $0/jump. Includes dinner Saturday night! Redline will pay for your competition jumps! (no go-arounds and no rejumps!) Why: Because we want people to jump! And it's excellent practice for the Nationals! Absolutely No hook turns! Check the info at: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=119697648048047&ref=mf Jump more, post less!

I have one for sale! top Jump more, post less!

I remember that plane! How many doors are in the woods still? Or the swamp? top Jump more, post less!

(Pasted from email from Mr. Wenger) I want to thank everyone for their input on the possible change of dates for CF at the Nationals. We try to make the best decisions possible, many make some of the people happy some of the time but never all the people all the time. I thank everyone on both sides of the issue for your input I want to thank Craig Stapleton who got a lot of input for me(and a few rocks thrown at him) from the CF community. After discussing this with the Rook Nelson DZO of Skydive Chicago we have decided that the best thing is to leave the dates as published. No changes. Blue Skies, //SIGNED// Coach Bill Wenger 2010 US Nationals Meet Director Jump more, post less!

his lips get tired! top Jump more, post less!

I do, every nationals I go and see that we don't have enough teams to give out all the medals! Don't worry your pretty little head, Scoob, it looks like the dates will not be changing. However, this is still subject to meet management/DZO review. They may still decide that moving dates for a discipline helps them. top Jump more, post less!

First, I'm trying to see if people have bought plane tickets(not just reserved them), locked in time off from work, etc. No, I don't reimburse, no one reimburses me when a meet runs long or short and I need to get home. You might be surprised to find out that the cost of flying to the Nationals is a small fraction of the costs of competing. The second point may be where we disagree more. I think moving dates for a team to recover before the meet from an injury would not happen (but giving a team a day when they have had an injury does happen). If we were going to VENEZUALA, would that be better? top Jump more, post less!

Ah, a good question! Being invited as a country to this air show is a HUGE honor, apparently. Last year, the French represented in CF, and the Chinese felt it should go another country this year. Airshows are a little odd, once you turn one down, no matter how pollitely, you will not get asked again. (We're talking US, not just CF teams). I think people are missing the point here. My team (Redline, not speaking for Clean Air at all) wants to do both events, but cannot with the Nationals dates as they are. USPA wants us to be able to do both, show the national support, but show the world what we are capable of on an international forum. top Jump more, post less!

Scoobie! Come watch, that would be great, but have you made reservations, asked for time of work, told your wife you'll be out of town? Do ya wanna do Pro-Am with me? I will if I can be there. I'm trying to see who loses out financially if we move the dates. I'm asking bacause no one asked me in 1999, they just moved the dates because it was better for meet management. I care enough about the competitors to find out first. top Jump more, post less!

I wasn't at the dinner after the WR, so I have no memory of that. The WR had many competitors, but not every nation was well-represented by its competitors. Consider Egypt, they probably didn't care about a WAG then, but they would now. I can tell you the WAG in Spain in 2001, was very well-attended. Eleven nations competed in CF? Have to look that one up for an accurate count. WAG's get more corporate sponsorship, provide a greater venue for our sport to be shown, including TV. One of the major reasons to have it outside the US is because TV is more willing to show skydiving there than they are here. It might get picked up here, afterward. If the World stage is bigger, is it ultimately better for our sport? Don't know, but it ain't getting better with what we are doing now. Competition CF is really struggling in the US, if it wasn't, this wouldn't be an issue. Two large, well-known teams missing the Nationals would be okay, but not in the state we are in. My worry, if Clean Air and Redline are not there, and only one other team shows- the Wisconsin gang. No meet for rotes, sequential, 8way. Could get two way done if they have two camera people. But the next BOD meeting, CF is on the chopping block! top Jump more, post less!

Otherwise you have no input to my data. I care about the people who will be directly and possibly negatively affected by this. T, "most people" are not the issue here, "most people" (if you are referencing most skydivers) couldn't tell you when the Nationals are, where they are, who goes, what happens, and if you get paid to go or not. We are changing the dates for CF, but they are staying within the published dates for the Nationals themselves. Precedent for this was set in 1999, when they were changed with much less notice and time. Did you care then? top Jump more, post less!

Hey leapdog, your recollection of last year is a little weak. Redline intended to do 8way, but two of our team members were killed on a practice jump a month prior, so we opted out. We intended to do 2way and pro-am. Sorry, we didn't stick around for the 2way, but we had a team member (and her husband) who had to get home for some much need rest and healing (one was injured in 4way). We "care" about all the events, and have been supporting the nationals for twenty years. To answer everyone's question about this air show. It is not a "demo" in the normal sense. It is a large international air show that the FAI and IPC are hoping to have host a World Air Games in the future. Since they have not had CF performed much there, they would like to see it at the air show by people that may attend the WAG and decide if it would be something to have. Ultimately, this is up to the meet director, Bill Wenger, and the comp committee. I am trying to get feedback from competitors who may be affected by these changes and minimize the effects. top Jump more, post less!

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So, I can stop reading right there. This is for the CF comp people. If you have a team and a plan to compete, I would like to hear from you, otherwise....

Both are an honor and we are trying to do both. The trip to China is PR for our sport, our discipline, and our organization. We are trying to go to the nationals as well, as every team present is going to make a difference in keeping CRW alive as a discipline. We are close to losing 8-way, and last year we had the minimum number of teams for 4-way to hand out all the medals. I'm trying to see how many teams are even going to the nationals this year, and if anyone cares if the dates are changed by a few days. CReW, you got a team, or just a comment? top Jump more, post less!

I think he is referencing the low number of jumps and time in sport are a weak database to be drawing from when bagging on an entire country's licensing system. The canopy reference is because that wingloading of an eliptical canopy puts you in the expert range, but your jump numbers do not. Perhaps, he feels you should inspect your own decisions before questioning others. My opinion, I'm sure JD will have one as well. I'm sure I was supposed to put a smiley here somewhere, but not sure where. top Jump more, post less!

The dates for the CF portion of the Nationals this year in Chicago may be changing! The reason is that both Clean Air and Redline have been invited to China for an international air show to demonstrate CF. It's a huge honor for those involved and for the US. However, the dates for the Nationals and the air show overlap a bit. What USPA is proposing to do is move the CF competition up, with registration on the 15th, competition starting on the 16th, running through the 20th. We are trying to keep the number of competitors up, so CF is not eliminated due to lack of participation, and making it so two teams could not come may be a problem for us in the long run. Please be aware of this possibility and let me know if there are other conflicts. thanks, Craig Stapleton Jump more, post less!

You also knew exactly where to park the airplane with round engines....just line them up to the dark spots on the tarmac! top Jump more, post less!

Frist pullout! top Jump more, post less!

That is the best grip- been using it for 20 years. You can fly with three of the four hands availible, very difficult to find a handle inadvertently, and rock solid to hold over a long period. Sucks to dirtdive though, everyone points and laughs! top Jump more, post less!

twardo- I have taken the one-stow, lines in a pouch, no slider to speak of, zero-p crw mods, pullout canopy to terminal. Just to find out what it was like! Make sure your shoes are tied on tight, close your mouth so you don't lose all your spit, and plan on being a little sore the next day.