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Try looking at the results this way (see attachment). Kind of blows your theory huh. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

Check MSNBC, they've been calling it 269 for Bush since 12:00AM Central time.....It's all over but the drawn out news coverage. They're only refusing to call it because people will stop watching the news. Bush has a 3.5 million popular vote lead. If M Moore (aka Fat Bastard) is right that most of America is liberal then a large number of liberals must be too lazy to vote. So much for a higher turnout favors Dems. I can't wait to hear liberal Hollywood's wailing and crying. Maybe they really will leave the country this time. Oh yeah, Daschle is out too. Nice day for the Republicans. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040702/ap_on_el_pr/nader_arizona If you can't win through the normal election process, take it to court. Didn't work in 2000 but they're not giving up. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

The actual numbers, from your sites, are: 2003: 208 attacks, 625 dead, 3,646 wounded 2002: 198 attacks, 725 dead, 2,013 wounded 2001: 346 attacks For 2001 the number dead is above 3,000. Although you have an increased number of attacks in 2003, there were less killed. One could surmise that the terror attacks are getting less effective. However, this entire method of quantifying "security" is skewed. Was the world a safer place in December 1945 than it was in January 1939? I think so. You would have a hard time arguing otherwise. But, using this method of determining security, ie counting war or terror deaths by year, you would have to conclude that the world was more dangerous because casualties were high every year. Your conclusion would have to be that the policy of going to war with the Axis was a failure. Sometimes we have to pay a price to make things better for the future. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

LOL, I have to agree. I think Hillary would hurt Kerry. I've worked for Clark. He is not a very nice person and wasn't a very good general. I think Edwards would be the best nominee (since he is not considering Lieberman). At least he would balance out Kerry's extreme left views. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

USMA, I didn't pay for a thing except initial uniform issue and a mandatory five years in the Army. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

Yes, of course. It doesn't have anything to do with the crusades of the 11th, 12th, and 13th centuries. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

Nope, and I'm not going to. It's propaganda, not a documentary and I choose not to support it by putting money in Fat Bastard's pocket. None of his other films have presented both sides of the issue so I don't expect this one to. Did he talk to the ones who have been injured who support the war effort and are willing to go back? Nope. They're out there. Did he talk to the wives of dead soldiers who are proud of what their husbands did and still support the effort? Nope. They're out there. We need Fat Bastard as much as we need the KKK. I just hope someone finally asks Kerry what he thinks of Fat Bastard's opinions. That should cause him to squirm. Fat Bastard is a liar. He is not accidentally wrong with his facts, he intentionally manipulates the facts to try to get people to accept his beliefs. He is not needed. He is nothing but propaganda material for the terrorists. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1514&e=13&u=/afp/iraq_us_qaeda_spain From this handbook: Al-Qaeda understands one purpose for the Iraq war better than our own liberals. Here is a little insight into the mindset of the terrorists (or as Fat Bastard aka Michael Moore calls them, the freedom fighters equivalent to our Minutemen). There are discussing beheadings and whether Muslims should be beheaded: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=20&u=/ap/20040630/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_beheading_muslims But, I'm sure this is all America's fault. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

I spend the majority of my time away from my desk and that is considered working. Sitting in the office is considered goofing off. No, I am not a traffic cop. Different jobs have different standards. Engineer vs President, not worth comparing Bill. They are not the same or even similiar. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

Have you seen how those numbers were figured? Fat Bastard counted all of the weekends that Bush was at Camp David as "vacation". If you take out those weekends you come up with 13% "away from the White House". Fat Bastard is a joke. I can't believe people are stupid enough to believe what this guy says. Look at this sight for some real information: http://fahrenheit_fact_check.blogspot.com/ Moore is also a Democrat and not an Independent as he claims. From the Smoking Gun: Some Fat Bastard quotes that will make you proud: It really awes me that so many people are willing to believe this idiot. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

You're replies are getting more intelligent every day. Maybe we will get to meet some day. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

The law requires an ORIGINAL birth certificate which is the basis for all of the other ORIGINAL documents you showed. The birth certificate is the foundation. If you fake a birth certificate you can get all of that other identification. Originals are the hardest to fake. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

You are speaking of someone who has no backbone, who changes positions based on the whims of the (very unscientific and subject to being wrong) opinion poles. You are speaking of John Kerry. By your definition of a good president (ie doing what the population as a whole wants) he will outlaw gay marriage, go back in time and never attack Iraq (opinions changed around December), get rid of affirmative action, we would be handling our retirements not the Social Security system, get rid of bilingual education, outlaw partial birth abortion, not grant special rights to gay individuals, keep the death penalty, and public prayer would return to schools. How many of these are part of the Democratic platform? These are just the polls I could find on the internet. I'm sure there are more. I prefer a president who has a clear vision of what he believes is right and has the back bone to see the vision to completion even when it is unpopular. I vote for a president who I believe has the most character and judgement to do what is right for the country (not necessarily just right for me) and not bow to every opinion poll or special interest group. All politicians do it to some extent, it is a fact of American politics, but some more than others. Kerry has flip-flopped on so many issues I'm not sure where he stands on most things. I do know that he has no character and I don't trust him to be president of the U.S. I'm sure he is exactly what you are looking for though. I have this weird belief that you should support your country during a time of war. You voice your dissent before. Once it is started, we should be one team until it is won. I do not believe that criticizing your government during a time of war is ever supporting the country or being patriotic as most liberals try to get us to believe. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

lol, there was a girl from UT who swore that her college professor was an FBI agent just monitoring the liberal college students. She believed if any stepped out of line he would start investigating them. What are you libs teaching kids these days!? As far as F9/11, I'm sure that it will be seen at many a terrorist training camp (maybe a field trip to the movies

Here we go with the toy rockets again. Good thing you weren't around during the rationing of WWII. You would be in tears. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

I feel sorry that Chris is having problems, but can't you see why she is being made to show original documents to get official identification? Get real. It's to stop identity theft which can lead to a know terrorist moving throughout the country freely. No one has accused her of being a terrorist but the law applies to everyone equally. We will all have to sacrifice in order to make the country safer. Maybe we could just require this of Arabs, or Muslims, or liberals. Would that make you happier? "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

Since it wasn't broadcast on TV or radio, no. I think this is hilarious. Leahy is a two faced little bitch who questioned Cheney's integrity in public then tried to be pals with him afterwards. He deserved it. Cheney should have punched him to accentuate the comment. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

You're referring to Clinton and Michael Moore right? While we're at it we can discuss the validity of The Cat in the Hat and how this is going to lead to a diluge of talking cats and blue midgets. They're both comparable in their usefullness. Seriously, I'm not going to give Moore a dime of my money to put in his porky little hands. Fat Bastard will have to find someone else to spin his yarns with. If he mails me a free copy I might throw it on with a few friends and a six pack for a good laugh. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

Do you really want me to? I don't think you do. Off the top of me head, he placed on his website information about the Patriot Act. http://www.michaelmoore.com/takeaction/issues/patriotact.php From his site: The FBI was able to do all of these before the Patriot act with a simple Grand Jury Subpoena. Lie #1 Nope, all of this still requires probable cause that a crime has been committed. The Patriot Act just allowed the proceedings to be moved to a FISA court for International Terrorism Investigations. Lie #2 I have explained all of the technical details and sources for my arguments before. I won't retype them here. Here is my earlier post.http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1066207;search_string=patriot%20act%20USC;#1066207 I would write more but it's a waste of my time. He's a fat, lazy, slob of a liar. BTW, I e-mailed Moore and asked about all of these lies over a month ago. He still hasn't responded. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

mr. kettle.........mr. pot......etc. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

If it becomes a proven fact and not some liberal Michael Moore type accusation, I would support impeachment proceedings. So far it just seems like accusations from a party searching for anything and promising everything to win an election. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

Some other good Franklin quotes that are pertinent, in general, to today: "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

Er....no shit. The link I posted was a study done on liberal media bias using US news agencies for the study. The general point is that the majority of media is left of center. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

Here is a college study on liberal media bias. It's real. http://mason.gmu.edu/~atabarro/MediaBias.doc "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin