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Only 17% of Trump Supporters Don't Believe QAnon Conspiracy Theory: Poll

White, non-college educated voters as a percentage of the overall US population is shrinking at about 1.5% per year. So four years from now there will be six percent less of those naturally inclined to be GOP supporters. About two weeks ago I read a good story about how fact has so little sway with trump supporters. About how humor mixed with fact can often provide a breakthrough for minds closed to logic. So for those that missed SNL last night because of celebration or hangover, enjoy.

Agree ;"Trump biographer Michael D’Antonio said Trump has been savvy about exploiting media opportunities throughout his life, whether it’s the New York tabloids or “The Apprentice.” “I think it’s inevitable that he has a media platform,” he said. “Now the opportunity to broadcast is available to almost anyone at almost no cost. I think people would watch Trump bloviate spontaneously from any outlet. That’s going to appeal to him immensely.” Above from a Politico story entitled Trump’s post-presidency: Stay relevant, make money, avoid indictment Shutting trump up will never be as easy as:

Yes Yes. Anything that results in self glorification will keep trump active. It will also be a drag on the GOP until Neo-fascism is purged. Populist ideology is not easily cleansed. trump will always paint his loss as a stolen victory. Meanwhile in Russia president Putin has ordered all flags to be flown at half-mast. To recognize the darkest day of Russia since June 22, 1941. The politburo stood for a minute in silence in recognition of trump's service to the Motherland.

If only!

Only when more GOP political representatives die will the message get through, Herman Cain,David Andahl,Peter Secchia, etc. are just not enough. 240,000 ordinary Americans not enough.

Well distrust of government in general and Covid could account for 5-10% Which would put the US the same as Canada, Voter turnout is the percentage of registered voters who cast a ballot in an election. The following presents voter turnout figures for Canada's general elections as compiled by Elections Canada. The average voter turnout for Canada's general elections since 1867 has been 70.5% The highest voter turnouts were in 1958, 1960, and 1963, when voter turnout was over 79%. The lowest voter turnout on record was in 2008, when voter turnout fell to only 58.8%. Voter turnout in the 2011 federal election, at 61.4%, was the third lowest in Canadian history. Voter turnout rose sharply in the 2015 federal election to 68.5%, the highest turnout since 1993. But if trump was a Canadian PM, I'd be voting in every polling station until the Mounties took me away to the big stone house.

Keep in mind that defense of such actions are expensive. In addition for defendants like trump investigations can turn into very successful "fishing" expeditions. Perhaps a Go Fund Me campaign in favor of the NY AG office can start things. Then fines, settlements, etc. could keep the trump bleeding till 2-3 decades after he's dead. "The people who have known him the longest are not surprised in the least. “He sues,” said Barbara Res, the Trump Tower construction manager and a former executive vice president of the Trump Organization. “That’s his M.O. He sues.” “It’s just another tool in his war chest,” said Jack O’Donnell, the former president of the Trump Plaza casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey. “He uses it to wear people out, whether it’s financially or emotionally.” “He’s used litigation historically to keep hostile forces at bay and to delay reckonings,” Trump biographer Tim O’Brien said. “He’s also used it to try to embarrass competitors, critics or opponents. And I think by and large he’s done that successfully. He’s the poster child for the abuses and inefficiencies of the American court system.”

When Barr forces prosecutors from office, there's fire. We don’t yet know what Mueller found, but here’s an overview of the president’s other legal jeopardy.

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I'm sure his job application will be forthcoming to the next GOP political hopeful.

This will likely be the View of Biden Once again the likely view of Biden Like Joe has said in other posts the hammer should be taken to trump and I agree. In reality it will be the SDNY that pursues the fraud and corruption cases against trump and trump Enterprises. Wendy and Bob also have good points which I also agree with. The essence of which is to heal the divisions and move America forward. There have been segments of the democrat base that have been seriously radicalized by trumps actions and they will want prosecution. Which, again, is like to be left to the SDNY. However, extending the hand or reconciliation to the GOP has not worked to date. They have not shown any effort to moderate the ideas of McConnell.Thats the reason why allowing the current standing of congress should be addressed. The standing whereby they still haven't learnt the lesson of this election. The lessons of trump and want to continue courts stacking. Lincoln Project's Schmidt: Tucker Carlson could be 2024 GOP frontrunner. Is a story today for those that imagine a version of trump two is not waiting from the GOP. Furthermore the SC has already handed trump a victory in his fraud- voting scam: Supreme Court hands Trump a small victory in Pennsylvania’s vote count. You have to be cautious that fatigue-capitulation is not driving your decision making in the whole trump issue. That trump and the GOP haven't worn you down and you imagine an accommodation to the GOP will be met with future moderation. trump has learned through 74 years that bullying others into submission works.

Speaking of lawyerly arguments: Graham: Senate may confirm Trump judges into 2021 "Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Friday opened the door to continuing to confirm President Trump’s judicial nominees in 2021, right up until when the next president, likely Joe Biden, is sworn in on Jan. 20."

A tea party.

Now you sound like a Republican No offense intended. Mods please don't ban me. "Nearly eight-in-ten Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents (78%) now say rulings should be based on the Constitution’s meaning in current times, higher than at any previous point on record and up 9 percentage points from 2016 (69%). Just three-in-ten Republicans and Republican leaners now say the same, an 11-point increase from 2016 but little changed from GOP views in the years prior."

“Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative…” Fair taxation aligned with fair representation are the fundamentals of democracy. When unequal representation is exploited partisanship will always be the result.

One more reason why Biden needs senate control to move another constitutional amendment through. The Path to Give California 12 Senators, and Vermont Just One "In 1995, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan declared, “Sometime in the next century the United States is going to have to address the question of apportionment in the Senate.” Perhaps that time has come. Today the voting power of a citizen in Wyoming, the smallest state in terms of population, is about 67 times that of a citizen in the largest state of California, and the disparities among the states are only increasing. The situation is untenable."

Two Qanon supporters made threats against a vote counting facility then went to it armed with Ar-15's. They were arrested.

How the US senate is anti-democratic. "In the incoming Senate, Democratic senators will represent at least 20,314,962 more people than their Republican counterparts — and that’s if we assume that Republicans win both runoff elections in Georgia. If the two Georgia seats go to the Democrats, the Senate will be split 50-50, but the Democratic half will represent 41,549,808 more people than the Republican half." Pence's days of vote breaking are likely over

With the US hitting a new record yesterday of 121,000 covid cases. trump will be screaming and crying. While he tries to paint himself as a winning martyr and the victim of socialist fraud. Federal inaction to address covid will soon be killing 2,000 a day. Pence might do something in that battle but IMO trump will cling to the presidency till the marines drag him from the WH. Naturally with Presidential Executive Orders flying off his desk till the last second.

Yes, and yes. While trump hires thousands of lawyers to smear American democracy. To crush a legitimate democratic freedom. The SDNY patriots will be toiling late each night. Crafting the briefs and affidavits for the USSC which the orange fool believes is in his back pocket. He will learn it doesn't work that way.

Good point. Some in the GOP used Obama's color as they used Hillary to sow division and tribalism. I see tribalism in the broad brush some democrat supporters paint all trump voters as racists. Poland is in the same anti-populist battle as America is right now. The GOP needs new leaders now. They need to put trump in his rightful place in American history, jail. John Kasich, Mitt Romney, etc. need to put the boots to trump's ass. Then take back the republican party.

45% of trump voters voted for him for his performance regarding the economy. Evidently there were six trillion reasons why their children shouldn't want that. But facts, reason and trump voters are like oil and water.

So they weren't patriots then.