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Sure thing I meant OVERHUNG. Shouldn't post before taking a nice big bowl of coffee in the morning... http://www.ufufreefly.com

Yes it is, next time it will be (hopefully) held 2006. http://www.ufufreefly.com

Good answers already in this thread, but I'd like add my few cents from my very limited experience : - Slider up for sure - Get a nice underhung terminal wall for example for your first flight, it gives you time to take things easy and it gives you time to sort out the deployment. - 38" / 36" PC - Pinrig. - Get loads of WS experience from airplane, it will help you once you get your suit flying. The initial flight and deployment will feel comfortable and you won't be pushing too many new things in one jump. - Get yourself an experinced WS-basejumper to help you with your first flight, he will tell you everything you need to know from exit to deployment. When I was doing my first flight I found it very valuable indeed to have more experienced friends around to give me nice tips, even though I had 100+ wsflights out of an airplane at that time. - Take it easy and have fun, it will be the experience of your life ! :) http://www.ufufreefly.com

Personally I think there is nothing funny about swedish and we still have to learn that in school... Damn those swedes. But Vesa, you shouldn't have a doubt about it on how we are going to fly in FunFlying boogie, we will kick ass of course. You should know that. :) http://www.ufufreefly.com

As Manbird said, that looks like Sensei Vesa from Finland climbing up the slipstream of the Herc. Watching him do that shit off AN-26 last year in Swedish Friflaj festival was fuckin' amazing. You can reach Vesa through dz.com for example, he posts here by the name vesatoro. http://www.ufufreefly.com

I think he means if those pants are made the company which makes Pressurized pants (http://www.pressurized.at/). And according to the picture my guess would be yes. http://www.ufufreefly.com

If you mean the soundtrack it is Blank & Jones The Mix Vol 1 CD2. http://www.ufufreefly.com

Well I do jump at the same dropzone so we occasionally get to fly together. I gotta remember to call him coolio the next time I see him. :) http://www.ufufreefly.com

Hmmm... In my media player the video plays 1min 5secs ? http://www.ufufreefly.com

You can check out some of the action from www.redbull.fi/mime/1090486512824-1764479724/MUSAVIDEO_iso.mpg . I'm not sure if that's Kujo's winning swoop but that's Kujo swooping the white VX with couple of blue cells on left side of the canopy starting on 22 second mark of the film. http://www.ufufreefly.com

Vesa will propably sort out all the facts when he gets back from Sweden but I'll try to answer as far as my best knowledge. I think that Vesa has had it mounted in his arm, under the sleeve. I would think that the sleeve of a wingsuit is thin enough to get the recorder to work through it. I remeber Vesa saying something about it that when sitting inside the plane this could be a probplem. He solved it by sitting at tha back of C-206 so he could sit by the window and so to get the recorder to lock onto satellites. I don't know exactly how long does it take but I would assume that it takes similar time what it takes from other commercially available GPS's. When Vesa gets back from sweden, we'll try to get some wingsuitflights downloaded and post the data here. http://www.ufufreefly.com

Sure has. Master Vesa has done plenty of flights with one of those recorders. We had frwd unit with us on our latest trip to popular big wall in Norway and Vesa made some kick ass flights there. Too bad we havn't been able to download the data from those flights so far. Vesa is at the moment in Hecules Boogie but when he gets back we'll propably take a look at those flights. I didn't have any wingsuit flights downloaded in my laptop but I attached a screenshot of the analyzing software, "The FRWD replayer". Don't concentrate on the data because it's just a normal jump but that screenshot should give you a general idea of the user interface and especially the 3D -route plotter. http://www.ufufreefly.com

Jumping with or without AAD is obviously always a personal choice but my advice would be that you might really want to take a careful look at your decision. Read all the facts and ask opinions from your instructors and from excperienced jumpers. As previous posters on this thread have allready said, this subject has been discussed before in this forum. Read this : http://www.cypres-usa.com/saves05b.pdf and ask yourself the question "Could one of these happend to me ?". There still hasn't been a single documented misfire on cypres that has led to a fatality but it has saved hundreds of lives of fellow skydivers. And when everything else fails it might just save yours. http://www.ufufreefly.com

I've done full terminal delays (20+ seconds) and slider down low stuff (1-3 secs) and couple subterminal sliderups with my unvented Troll. So far I've been very happy with it's opening characteristics and have not noticed that it's openings or pressurisation would get worse when going for shorter delay. But as you said, you reviewed your particular unvented Troll, i'm speaking about my Troll. Two different canopies might have totally different behaviour. http://www.ufufreefly.com

My post goes little offtopic since this thread is all about MDV Trolls but since there has been some comments about standard Trolls (without MDV) I might write couple points conserning them. I'm certainly no expert on this one since I only have ~20 jumps on my non-vented Troll. However I have jumped with it full terminal delays and also taken it as down as 95m (~310 feet) handheld and have experienced none of the issues described above. I have generally been very happy with my Trolls opening characteristics and when comparing to fellow jumpers Mojos or Aces for example I have not seen any great differences on pressurisation times. Of course everything could be just beginners luck but those are my impressions on standard Troll and it's openings. When I thought about ordering the Troll as my canopy I read Tom's review and noted his comments about the openings. I decided to ask Robert Pecnick about that issue since Robi propably has the best knowledge about Trolls apart from Stanje of course. I'll paste some comments from Robi, of course he is sponsored by Atair so take his comments as you like but these were Robi's views : My question : "I'm slightly concerned about rumour of Troll's incosistent openings, for example Tom Aiello's article on dropzone.com says : "I personally have had very bad openings on my Troll (Atair Aerodynamics). My openings have been wildly inconsistent, and included unacceptable snivels, end cell closures, and asymmetric inflation (leading to off-heading openings)." Any comments on this issue ?" Robi's answer : "True is that as we started to test first series of Troll ( I did that ) we had issues like jellyfish opening! This was solved simply by increasing the crossports in the ribs of the canopy" Any comments on that ? Tom ? Could it be that the non-vented Troll you have been jumping has been one of those "first series" Trolls Robi mentioned and the opening issues have since been solved ? http://www.ufufreefly.com

Yeah, we really had awesome time and had some good ones at that popular big wall in southwestern Norway. Thanks again to everyone at SBK and every jumper we had the pleasure to jump with and hang around with. You guys and gals once again made it feel like home... Or almost better. :) http://www.ufufreefly.com

I'd say 200 is good and 400 is even better. I had 600'ish skydives before my first basejump and 800'ish when I had my first bad exit from a 780 feet A on my ninth BASEjump. When I tumbled that exit all the skills I've learnt through freeflying and all the altitude and time awareness that only come with hundreds of skydives really paid off. I was able deal with that situation and stay altitude and time aware, get stable and depoly right at the time. Don't know if I would have been able to do so with 200 skydives... Of course in case of unstable exit you need to deploy regardless of body position if the time is running out BUT the crucial skill of time- and altitude awarness and ability to make split second decisions and to stay on top of the situation only come through hundreds of skydives. I'd say don't rush things, get as much skydiving excperience as you feel is necessary and just that much that you feel comfortable at the exitpoint that you can deal with jump in hand. Just my newbie opinion... http://www.ufufreefly.com

I crossposted your info to Parachuting Club of Finland's forum, we'll be keeping eyes open when travelling across Europe. http://www.ufufreefly.com

I personally wouldn't want get yanked out doing head down terminal with any slider. :) Your statement conserning high speed deployments is absolutely valid but I don't think that it is a major design aspect for skydiving reserves since most reserve designs date way back when freeflying wasn't even invented. Also most skydiving reserves are not designed for extra opening shock if deployed from HD terminal (even though many of them do endure it and don't blow up). You stated that you know one fatal incident conserning headdown terminal reserve deployment, I bet that it was with sail slider ? I don't say that the result would have been anyway different with mesh slider but that proves that headdown terminal reserve deployments are very dangerous and can be fatal regardless of the slider. But thanks everyone for answers and keep your opinions coming ! http://www.ufufreefly.com

Still many BASE jumpers jump terminal walls with mesh sliders so that must be a question of personal preference ? For example check out the thread " How are people packing for Norway?" from BASE zone where our moderator Tom Aiello says "I'd go with a mesh slider. I generally use a large hole mesh slider at terminal." I kinda still don't buy the idea that sail works better on terminal than mesh since if hole-in-the-middle sail slows openings more than mesh and openingspeed is crucial factor in both reserves and BASE canopies, shouldn't we then use mesh sliders in reserves too because (if) they produce faster (yet survivable) and more consistent openings ? http://www.ufufreefly.com

Hi all ! I posted a question conserning slider materials to Gear and Rigging, please check it out, I'm sure some of you with lots of BASE knowledge can post very good opinions to that matter. http://www.ufufreefly.com

Howdy all ! This is a question that has been bugging me for some time and none of my friends has been able to give a satisfying answer. Why do we use standard sail slaiders with hole in the middle in skydiving reserves and mesh slaiders in BASE canopies ? Cause the way I figure it, both those canopies are quite similar in structure (7-cell, low AR, F-111) and have quite similar characteristics and criterias as well (opening speed, not prone to offheadings or linetwists, etc...). Can someone give a proper explanation to this ? http://www.ufufreefly.com

Yeah, dude, there indeed is something to see. You should definately go check it out, the whole place is just amazing. If you are into hiking the views and places to just hike with your backpack are absolutely great. Or if hiking isn't your thing, take a ferry and check the whole fjord out. And as a added bonus to all these activities you might see some BASE jumping (and even try it out yourself :) and meet some BASE jumpers and just chill out, grab a few beers and have fun ! Definately the place to visit. http://www.ufufreefly.com

As Vesa already said, you really can't define what is your "typical birdsuit flight", there just is so much to do with suit. I just love to fly for the beauty of it, but i'm always ready for more technical stuff (flips, grips, etc...) if we decide to go that way. But hey, so is freeflying, try to define your "typical freefly"! You can just track or flock or do more hardcore technical stuff or mix 'em up. And who cares really, it's all good as long as it works for you ! :) http://www.ufufreefly.com

Personally I don't like to do wingsuitjumps when it gets really cold, I've done couple of flights when it has been -25 C in exit altitude (4000m) and it's not that bad... I just hate to stuff all the extra clothing under my suit and also with wingsuits in cold temperatures it's even more important to find gloves where your fingers don't freeze and you can still work with all possible situations. Also I've discovered that wrists are hard to get covered since I have pretty tight wrists in my suit. Butbut... Sometimes during the (way too long) Finnish winter one just has to get up there to spread one's wings... :) Related picture http://www.jfmattila.com/temp/MareVesa.jpg, that's BMCI Vesa and me going for a flight last winter. :) It was cold but as ever, worth it. :) http://www.ufufreefly.com