ColdDuck 0 #1 October 16, 2002 When you were learning to freefly(head down especially) did you remember to make a concerted effort to breathe in freefall? If so do you think that it is important to fly stable head down. I always try to remember to breathe up there, but I think I try to concentrate to much and forget to breathe. Thanks "Insurance should called In case shit happens, if shit don't happen shouldn't I get my money back?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoshi 0 #2 October 16, 2002 I think it helps emensly... simply because it will help you to relax.. flying hd is something much easier to do when you are not tense.. when I was first learning I would start with my plan from exit.. I would ALWAYS exit on the exhale and kindof flop out like a dead fish.. then go to my body position and keep trying to relax.. it worked for me...but who knows.. I exited on the exhale so I would have to breath... -yoshi_________________________________________ this space for rent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #3 October 17, 2002 Last weekend I was reviewing some video of a dive with AUFreefly. He was flying REALLY slow. That makes me crank out my arms and legs and get stiff. I'm washing and carving because I was trying to go so slow. You see me open my mouth wide and take a HUGE deep breath. Someone else watching asked if I was saying something. Nope....just trying to stay relaxed and keep breathing. On a jump a while back I was trying to teach someone head down. He has quite a few more jumps than I do but has spent them all on his belly or in a sit. I launched a flower with him and not 2 sec out the door he started to get tense. I shook my head "NO" at him and took a big deep breath. (I couldn't give him a relax signal because if I let go of him he would have corked.) He responded by taking a couple nice deep breaths and the flower stabilized immediately. It was very cool and I was quite proud of him for accomplishing new things. Breathing and relaxing is one of the most important things you can do on any dive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #4 October 18, 2002 Maybe even more important than breathing during the dive is breathing just before the dive. If you are tensed up and not breathing when you leave the plane you might stiffen up on the exit. A tip I got given was to use the exit count : Ready, Set (breathe in) Go (breathe out smoothly as you leave the plane). Will Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #5 October 18, 2002 Hehe, Ramon used to give me the breathe signal a lot, it became the key for a maneouvre. Point to mouth, breath, execute manuevre. I adpoted and used it a lot telling Mrs Mac to breath when she was shoving out mini me... -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravityrat4 0 #6 October 18, 2002 Breathing is very important in freeflying in general. Not just while you are head down. Breathing will really help you relax and release any tension that you have built up. If you think you are concentrating to much on breathing then do things to make it second nature such as adding the breathing to your dirt diving. Make it a part of your dive. Breathing will prove to be a very valuable tool especially once you get into bigways. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gale 0 #7 October 18, 2002 As a newbie, I'd have to say that this peice of advice has helped me all the way from sitting on the plane on the ride up, during my exits, my maneuvers, and even under canopy and landings. It's one of the things that I feel truely improves my performance. Oh, and I would suggest making sure to breathe slowly and calmly during mental rehersal to help making it more second nature in the air. GaleI'm drowning...so come inside Welcome to my...dirty mind Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SatchFan 0 #8 October 18, 2002 Thanks for all the feedback on this. I know breathing is something that I am really working on but I can't seem to concentrate on both flying and breathing. I guess it comes with more practice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fedykin 0 #9 October 21, 2002 I was doing some coaching last christmas with eli thompson at perris and he attached partictular importance to breathing and to what he called the fine lines of freefly- not nervous, but not too relaxed etc... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
genfreefly 0 #10 November 2, 2002 breathing is everything. if we can breathe, we can't relax, if we can't relax, we can't think.....if we can't think....then who knows what is going on.. if you are having trouble remembering to breathe, then maybe you are trying to do too much in one jump. simplify...make breathing your #1 priority (along with safety, of course) take deep breaths, without hyperventilating...but make them exaggerated, deep and slow.. don't think 'there's no time to spend thinking about breathing....i want to learn to fly' that philosophy is in the wrong order. if we can breath, we can relax, we can think, we can become aware (or more aware) of how the wind feels against our bodies...and we can learn to work with the wind and learn to fly.. my two cents max Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fedykin 0 #11 November 2, 2002 ehhhh, max(imus), wind it in, im the one gobbing off here! fedykin(hopeless twat) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unutsch 0 #12 November 2, 2002 Guys, me and a friend of mine were doing HD jumps last weekend, and the breathing thing made it a bit better: we allready know how to jump out a flower (I could say it's perfect), we can fly it for 3 or some seconds, and then it gets unstable. I guess we would have made it if we also concentrated on the breathing during the jump, not only on the exit. Well, anyway, RiGHT oN! Check out the site of the Fallen Angels FreeflY Organisation: http://www.padliangeli.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eugeneskydiver 0 #13 November 19, 2002 the only way I will start a free fly jump is by breathing deep during the count. instead of going out in out. I breath with the other jumper/s while going up down, then out in out. it's makes for the perfect exits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMonkey 0 #14 November 19, 2002 Quoteinstead of going out in out. I breath with the other jumper/s while going up down, then out in out are you talking about skydiving or sex??? --------------------- Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BikerBabe 0 #15 November 19, 2002 *sneaking in from the RW forum...* This doesn't only apply to freeflying, you know. The best FS teams will tell you that they score the most points when they are the most relaxed...and they all do some deep breathing on the plane... OK, I'll go away now... Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakous 0 #16 November 19, 2002 QuoteQuoteinstead of going out in out. I breath with the other jumper/s while going up down, then out in out are you talking about skydiving or sex??? Talking about skydiving. But, Monkey if you ever find yourself having sex with another person, then this breathing thread is applicable at that time as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psw097 0 #17 November 19, 2002 All this time I thought you and Monkey were having sex together. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMonkey 0 #18 November 19, 2002 --------------------- Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience! --------------------- Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience! thanku.wav Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueshrew 0 #19 November 21, 2002 Try singing really loud then, it forces you to breath ;) seems to work around here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
