skydiverek 60 #1 January 17, 2003 Pros, cons, opinions? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ojf1982 0 #2 January 17, 2003 It is absolutely the best rig I have ever tried on. I had an Oddysey before for my G4, and it is by far superior in comfort, bar none. It may be more expensive than the others, but for the comfort and security it provides it is definately well worth it.The edge ... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who know where it is are those that have gone over - Hunter S. Thompson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deaffreeflyer 0 #3 January 17, 2003 Pro - Better than G3 I reckon. Con - it's F***ING HELL expensive! No way I'll order it for £1400 for a basic rig or £1950 for a rig with fully loaded! That is not include dye-tie! I just recieved a quote from Point Zero dealer (UK). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #4 January 17, 2003 Functionality, from what I've seen it seems to be a very very rock solid rig. It is ugly as sin, though...well, that and you'll have to morgage your children to buy one. The real reason is, why? Since there are other rock solid rigs on the market today that cost much much less, you know, like The Wings.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rapper4mpi 0 #5 January 17, 2003 Have you looked into a Vector 3/Micron? They are definately worth a look. www.relativeworkshop.com -Rap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garywainwright 0 #6 January 17, 2003 Yeah but everythings a rip off in the UK.PD Reserves are quoted at £790 with a big british dealer - they are about $850 or less in the UShttp://www.garywainwright.co.uk Instagram gary_wainwright_uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deaffreeflyer 0 #7 January 17, 2003 You should have try www.air-supply.co.uk. This dealer offer PD Reserve for under £700! PD Reserve 126 was about £670 and PD Reserve 143 was about £685. Also Javelin Odyssey with fully loaded - £1185! You can't go wrong with Air-Supply. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garywainwright 0 #8 January 17, 2003 Attention all Brits - buy your kit from Air Supply! Thats a great price for the uk!http://www.garywainwright.co.uk Instagram gary_wainwright_uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 60 #9 January 17, 2003 Quote Have you looked into a Vector 3/Micron? They are definately worth a look. www.relativeworkshop.com -Rap Yes, I did, and I prefer Mirage G3/G4 over Vector 3/Micron because of the following: 1.) I like Mirage reserve pilotchute (with mesh) more than Vector's. 2.) Reserve cover flap on Mirage tucks in in the way that it cannot be snagged by line. Vector's reserve cover flap also tucks in, but in a different way, and it CAN be snagged by the line (in a CRW wrap, for example). 3.) Mirage offers hip rings. Vector does not. 4.) Mirage has on option of having smaller matal reserve handle. 5.) Also, I was always wondering... If you look at Micron's picture (attached) you can see that the container side flaps cover more reserve container area than on other rigs. I was always wondering if that would not make the extraction of the freebag more difficult if the jumper would deploy his/her reserve head down with total malfunction (main conatiner still closed). Any thoughts? BTW, I think Vector 3/Micron is a great rig and I know it is TSO'd. I am just looking for a perfect rig Bart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #10 January 17, 2003 Quote3.) Mirage offers hip rings. Vector does not. correction.. Vector offers hip rings, not chest rings.... G4 has some really neat features in the details of the rig to make it really comfortable and functional Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygod7777 0 #11 January 17, 2003 well, they are very comfortable. but that is as far as i go with the likes. i think they are ugly as hell. and thier price sucks, and the d-bags suck too. that's just my opinion though. oh, and they are too short on my back (for the same size canopies that i have) later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 60 #12 January 17, 2003 Quote correction.. Vector offers hip rings, not chest rings.... Thanks what I wanted to say... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #13 January 17, 2003 Less mesh means that on an unstable launch it still has all of its drag potential. Sunrise is doing a very similar PC style on their Wings. The tuck flap is a good point. Mirage offers chest rings, they both have hip. RWS has that handel by default, if you want something else you have to make that as an option. The secondary riser covers should'nt cause the reserve to launch any different then it would on any other rig out there.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deaffreeflyer 0 #14 January 17, 2003 Sound like you prefer Mirage than any other rigs. And you already made your decision and GO FOR MIRAGE! It's nothing wrong with it really. It's secure, freefly friendy, safe rig anyway. We just gave you our opinion and it didn't change your mind, did it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 60 #15 January 17, 2003 Quote Sound like you prefer Mirage than any other rigs. And you already made your decision and GO FOR MIRAGE! It's nothing wrong with it really. It's secure, freefly friendy, safe rig anyway. We just gave you our opinion and it didn't change your mind, did it? I still prefer Mirage Also, I was looking for anything that you may not like about Mirage (apart from the price Bart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 60 #16 January 17, 2003 QuoteThe secondary riser covers should'nt cause the reserve to launch any different then it would on any other rig out there. Actually, I was refering to container side flaps, not secondary riser covers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #17 January 17, 2003 >Also, I was looking for anything that you may not like about Mirage Unless you tye dye the heck out of one... they are ugly as sin Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deaffreeflyer 0 #18 January 17, 2003 QuoteAlso, I was looking for anything that you may not like about Mirage (apart from the price). Yep I do like it very much! It would be my first choice if price is about the same as Javelin Odyssey or Micron. I like the way how it design and very modern. Material are really great quality. I did some jumps on demo G3 rig with Sabre 2 170ft². When I tried it on and it's really comfortable. Under canopy - it's still so comfortable. I like freefly handle - brilliant secure but you might need a strong arm to pull it out and dump! Something I don't like about it - None. I tried to find it but seem that I can't. Some don't like it cos it's ugly but I thought it was best look rig. I don't like tye dye very much though - I reckon it'll be ugly if it has some! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deaffreeflyer 0 #19 January 17, 2003 Hehehe! Good idea! Anyway I thought you would know that dealer - Phil Curtis who is the owner of Air-Supply and it's based at Langer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #20 January 17, 2003 Quote Unless you tye dye the heck out of one... they are ugly as sin well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder...I happen to think javelins are ugly, as well as most exposed/semi exposed pop top containers the new talon coming out looks kind of sharp though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rigging65 0 #21 January 17, 2003 Personally, I think they're WAY over engineered, to stiff, hard to pack, and that elastic-freefly-strap thingy is so much more than is needed, not to mention adds something else to maintain to the rig! And, of course, with over engineering comes inflated prices. Hey full page 4-color and that much Balistic cloth isn't cheap!! "...and once you had tasted flight, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward. For there you have been, and there you long to return..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moodyskydiver 0 #22 January 18, 2003 I like it personally.Tried on a friend of mine's and it was super comfy.I couldnt really afford it though,so I bought a G3.It should be here in 2 weeks. "...just an earthbound misfit, I." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #23 January 19, 2003 you'll love it. I love my G3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 #24 January 19, 2003 I really like my G3. I have yet to see a G4 at the DZ. Just from seeing pics in ads and such of the G4 I think I like the G3 better, but pics sometimes don't do justice. On a side note I was just over there browsing and came across this link in the nav bar http://www.miragesys.com/RTS.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #25 January 20, 2003 I currently jump a G3 UNISYN and really like it. I grabbed a G4 at Rantoul last year and gave it a looking over. Outcome: I don't like it. It's very functional but I really don't like the aesthetics of it. That coupled with their pricing is why my next rig (that I will be purchasing this year) will be a Wings. KrisSky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
