Swoopyswoop 0 #1 May 13, 2003 Just wondering if anyone here has had the privelage to jump one of the new 36 cell onyx? It seems I have had to buy one instead of having the option to demo one. It appears to me that the waiting list for the onyx is approx 6 months. If anyone knows of a demo out thre or an easier way to get one please let me know. If not, I will just buy a couple and maybe demo them out to individuals "when I die, I want to go like my grandfather while im sleeping, not like the passengers riding in the car with me Swoopster A.S.S. #6 Future T.S.S holder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #2 May 13, 2003 I have not, but if you buy a couple get something really tiny and I'll be happy to demo it as many times as you wish -T My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivegirl 0 #3 May 28, 2003 *bump* anybody?Pink Mafia Sis #26 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diveout 0 #4 May 28, 2003 I saw Eric Butts flying the only one in existence -a 95- in Florida at the PST swoop meet. It looked and seemed to fly like any other high-performance canopy to me, but I did not get to take a close look or demo one. Also, ALL of the Atair pilots were jumping competition cobalts during the actual competition rounds. Hmmm...where was the onyx? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #5 May 29, 2003 Eric Butts competed in that meet under a Competition Cobalt 120. The Onxy 95 prototype was there, but Eric didn't jump it. Ramon Rionda jumped it once, as did someone else, but that was just for shits and grins. The main was in one of Hans Paulson's rigs. Both Ramon and Eric stayed in my room in Panama City. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMGR2 0 #6 May 31, 2003 We can only guess what went on in that room Damn, sorry I missed it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #7 May 31, 2003 It was fascinating..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rareform 0 #8 June 11, 2003 We stayed there one night, only after arrests were made so is was safe...just starting out and coming to a competition near you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koidl 0 #9 July 15, 2003 So, any news? Did someone bought/jump it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hans 0 #10 July 16, 2003 Yes I've jumped it. I dont have any info on its release. I'm sure you will be very impressed with the finished product. The Farm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #11 July 16, 2003 Hey Hansie, you jumped it recently? ramon"Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyhi 24 #12 July 16, 2003 QuoteI saw Eric Butts flying the only one in existence -a 95- in Florida at the PST swoop meet. Eric on a 95? What is that wing loading? ~2.6 - 2.7:1? Sounds xciting.Shit happens. And it usually happens because of physics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #13 July 16, 2003 Ramon jumped it in Florida too. It was in Hansie's rig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hans 0 #14 July 16, 2003 Hey Ramon what's going on? No I haven't jumped it recently I sent it off to the next person in line to give it a ride. Big Eric's wingloading was more like 3.0 on the 95. The Farm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeFlyASC 0 #15 July 21, 2003 What was your loading Hans had to be like 3.5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobaltdan 0 #16 July 21, 2003 eric should be on the production version of the onyx tomorrow cloudy skies permiting at the ranch in ny. btw he is 280 # exit weight on the 95. I should be out there jumping it as well... Sincerely, Daniel Preston Atair Aerodynamics www.extremefly.comDaniel Preston <><> atairaerodynamics.com (sport) atairaerospace.com (military) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grega 0 #17 July 27, 2003 So how did the latest production version (3rd) of onyx handle ??? How does it fly?"George just lucky i guess!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobaltdan 0 #18 July 28, 2003 the canopy is unreal. We adjusted the production design for higher speed and on the first jump eric hit a 400' swoop. look out ! sincerely, dan preston atair aerodynamicsDaniel Preston <><> atairaerodynamics.com (sport) atairaerospace.com (military) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grega 0 #19 July 28, 2003 That's great. Yes Stane told me that this version is faster (has steeper glide) How about the control range. is it good or is the canopy easily stalled? how about the stability and turn rate (responsivnes). And flare power? Can it be "stopped" at the end or do you have to run? Do you think this version could be it (the final) ?"George just lucky i guess!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobaltdan 0 #20 July 28, 2003 control range is as all our canopies relativly deep. very stable, even at 3#/' loading. very deep stall point on both toggles and rear risers. flare is huge and canopy can be completely shut down even at 3# loading. I am finishing a nose pattern now and it is definatly final. Sincerely, Dan<><> Atair Aerodynamics www.extremefly.comDaniel Preston <><> atairaerodynamics.com (sport) atairaerospace.com (military) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grega 0 #21 July 28, 2003 QuoteI am finishing a nose pattern now and it is definatly final. What do you mean? Isn't nose very similar to cobalt competitions nose?"George just lucky i guess!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobaltdan 0 #22 July 28, 2003 similar but not identical...its all in the details... sincerely, dan<><>Daniel Preston <><> atairaerodynamics.com (sport) atairaerospace.com (military) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grega 0 #23 July 28, 2003 Great, keep us updated. Can't wait to try one on my own "George just lucky i guess!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grega 0 #25 September 2, 2003 Did you receive the latest ver. of Onyx (with improved nose), and tested it yet? How is it ? Openings any better now? Can't wait till it's released. p.s.:How about that closed end cells. Will you try them on first version of onyx, or will they have to wait for onyx2 or something like that?"George just lucky i guess!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
