howardwhite 4 #1 March 30, 2009 But who, when, where, why? (If you have ever posted to the DB Cooper thread, you are ineligible to win the grand prize.) HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #2 March 30, 2009 My guess: The movie stunt jump made for the movie "The Pursuit of D.B. Cooper", with Treat Williams as DB, and Robert Duvall as the pursuing investigator. If not that, my second guess: The test jump done by Roger Nelson to prove to the FAA that a 727 could be safely configured and jumped, for use at his World Freefall Convention. If not that, my third guess... well, I suppose I should leave something for others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #3 March 30, 2009 Hi howard, I'm with John, I think it was for the movie. Wasn't it Jerry Myers who did the jumping? Inquirying minds want to know. JerryBaumchen PS) I know that I am ineligible but who follows rules anymore? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guru312 0 #4 March 30, 2009 QuoteBut who, when, where, why? What happened to "How"? I want to know how the jumper is able to defy gravity and fall up.Guru312 I am not DB Cooper Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #5 March 30, 2009 Quote Quote But who, when, where, why? What happened to "How"? I want to know how the jumper is able to defy gravity and fall up. Since the 727 is upside-down, it was probably the force of the barrel-roll that projected him up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 4 #6 March 30, 2009 Dunno what you're talking about. Looks fine to me.HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guru312 0 #7 March 30, 2009 Quote Dunno what you're talking about. Looks fine to me.HW Well, I'll be damned! Guru312 I am not DB Cooper Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 18 #8 March 31, 2009 Hi HW, It's George "Dirty Ed" Edwards from Elsinore/Perris.SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 4 #9 March 31, 2009 Quote It's George "Dirty Ed" Edwards from Elsinore/Perris. That's not what I have written downHere's the exit shot. HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DavidB 0 #10 March 31, 2009 That's from the movie.When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
htrammel 0 #11 March 31, 2009 Quote Quote It's George "Dirty Ed" Edwards from Elsinore/Perris. That's not what I have written downHere's the exit shot. HW Appears to be Norm Kent flying camera. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 4 #12 March 31, 2009 Well, of course it's the DB Cooper movie. But who are the jumpers? And where was it shot? (I don't know the precise answer to this -- only the general area.) HW (It's not Norm Kent) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #13 March 31, 2009 Yeah, right - you just want us to think it's "from the movie." Maybe we should ask Jo if that jumper's ass looks like her husband's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #14 March 31, 2009 Carl Boenish was filming. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 36 #15 March 31, 2009 Well here's the credits. Take your pick. Don't Carl's name. Uncredited? Stunts Gary Combs .... stunt coordinator Gilbert B. Combs .... stunts (as Gilbert Combs) Alan Gibbs .... stunts Al Jones .... stunts Kathy Massengale .... stunts Breck O'Neill .... stunts Ruth A. Redfern .... stunts (as Ruth Redfern) Michael Sammons .... stunts Art Scholl .... stunt pilot Dean Raphael Ferrandini .... stunts (uncredited) Whitey Hughes .... stunts (uncredited) Camera and Electrical Department Mike Benson .... camera operator (as Mike Benson) John Davis .... best boy David Fay .... key grip Fred Maupin .... best boy Tom May .... key grip Robert D. McBride .... camera operator (as Bob McBride) Stan McClain .... assistant camera: aerial unit Richard Craig Meinardus .... assistant camera (as Richard Meinardus) John Monte .... still photographer Victor Nikaido .... assistant camera Don Nygren .... gaffer Chris Schwiebert .... camera operator Jack Shannon .... still photographer Richard Tim Vanik .... camera operator (as Tim Vanik) Earl Williman Jr. .... gaffer Don E. FauntLeRoy .... assistant camera (uncredited)I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 18 #16 March 31, 2009 Hi HW, 'Guess I'll have to go dig thru my archives of old Scareachutist mags and find the one with the story about that movie jump and as I recall it was Dirty Ed and I'm not sure who the cam was but it was either Kevin Donnley or Ray Cottingham?? Darn these projects!!! Perhaps some of the old Elsinore/Perris Ghetto Rats might shed some info on this subject!! Got your SAG card??SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 4 #17 March 31, 2009 I confess to confusion about the credits on IMDb. The pictures are from the March, 1981, Parachutist, which says the three photographers were Kevin Donnelly, Carl Boenish, and Ray Cottingham. The jumper in the exit shot is identified as Jerry Meyers, wearing (according to Donnelly) a "Security Maxi-pig" with a chest-mount container, supposedly the money pouch. Other jumpers participating in the shoot were identified as Dean Westgaard and Bill Edwards. It's a mystery to me why none of these people are identified on IMDb, nor do the IMDb pages for Boenish, Cottingham and Donnelly reflect any participation in this movie. It's not clear where this was shot. The Parachutist story describes how Kevin nearly fell out accidentally while spotting when "...the plane was over Yosemite Park, some 20 miles from their target area." Could it be there was another set of shots, and this one was not used? Is this another DB mystery?I expect to see Kevin at the reunion in Raeford in May and will ask him. HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 36 #18 March 31, 2009 Are any of the stunt guys listed skydiver stunt men? Or camera guys listed freefall camera? I'm not familiar with the stuff back then. The rig looks alot like my Security Crossbow tandem rig but hard to tell without a little more detail.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 4 #19 March 31, 2009 I looked at the IMDb listings for all the people. Art Scholl was a famous stunt pilot but not, AFAIK, involved in any skydiving stuff except maybe incidentally. None of the rest seem to have had any involvement with skydiving. I remain puzzled. HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niki1 1 #20 March 31, 2009 With that Security piggyback, it has to be early to mid '70s. The pictures look familiar but the memories must be in some of those brain cells that were jetisoned along the way.Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossilbe before they were done. Louis D Brandeis Where are we going and why are we in this basket? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 36 #21 March 31, 2009 Movie was 1981. Photo could be yesterday with the rig in my basement. And the jumpsuit for the cameraman. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #22 March 31, 2009 Hi howard, Quote The jumper in the exit shot is identified as Jerry Meyers, Yeehaw, somebody owes me a beer. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 4 #23 March 31, 2009 Quote Quote The jumper in the exit shot is identified as Jerry Meyers, Yeehaw, somebody owes me a beer. No. What you wrote is: Quote Wasn't it Jerry Myers who did the jumping? HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbrasher 0 #24 April 1, 2009 Kevin Donnelly? Red, White and Blue Skies, John T. Brasher D-5166 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #25 April 1, 2009 Hi howard, i do believe that if someone checks his name is Jerry Myers. But, I am NOT always correct. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
