jbrasher 0 #26 November 9, 2008 Terry, I always loved Freak Brothers..... I was in line to get some hang over relief and watched that particular jump Later that afternoon I was in line again and watched a low time jumper (30 jumps?), whose boyfriend talked her into driving across a couple of states to jump there, have problems deploying her main and went in in the corn.... and then I called home and found out a former student of mine had gone in at Perris that day, too!There were better days.... Red, White and Blue Skies, John T. Brasher D-5166 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #27 November 12, 2008 I scoff at linked exits. Scoff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #28 November 13, 2008 QuoteI scoff at linked exits. Scoff. Isn't Scoffing hard on the knees? SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
girthrockwel 0 #29 November 17, 2008 Whats the deal with hitting the door? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fastphil 0 #30 November 17, 2008 QuoteWhats the deal with hitting the door? It's not really a matter of "hitting" the door. What they mean is "missing" the door, which means slamming your body into the edge of the doorway. This usually happens because of all the pushing and pulling in the line during exit... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patmoore 14 #31 November 17, 2008 Years ago at Zhills I hopped on a DC3 going to twelve five for a large formation RW jump. I was practicing style for the Nationals and asked the pilot if he could make a run over the DZ at 6600 feet. He said he would but he wouldn't throttle back. We were actually a little high when we reached the exit point so I decided to have a little fun on my exit. I'm a former gymnast so I stood with my back to the door and did as high a back flip as I could. I then got into my dive and did my style routine. When the rest of the load got down a few of them came up to me and said I scared the crap out of them. They said my head missed the horizontal stabilizer by inches! It never occurred to me that it would be possible to actually hit the tail on a DC 3 but apparently I came close. Scary when I think back on it.DZGone.com B-4600, C-3615, D-1814, Gold Wings #326, Diamond Wings #152. If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #32 November 17, 2008 Quote Years ago at Zhills I hopped on a DC3 going to twelve five for a large formation RW jump. I was practicing style for the Nationals and asked the pilot if he could make a run over the DZ at 6600 feet. He said he would but he wouldn't throttle back. We were actually a little high when we reached the exit point so I decided to have a little fun on my exit. I'm a former gymnast so I stood with my back to the door and did as high a back flip as I could. I then got into my dive and did my style routine. When the rest of the load got down a few of them came up to me and said I scared the crap out of them. They said my head missed the horizontal stabilizer by inches! It never occurred to me that it would be possible to actually hit the tail on a DC 3 but apparently I came close. Scary when I think back on it. There was at least one fatality I can remember at Z-hills in the early 1980's when a tall skinny Brazilian did a poised, standing exit, facing the line of flight and hit his head on the leading edge of the horizontal stab. I remember another incident many years ago where Mike Truffer, editor of Skydiving Magazine, dove out of a DC-3 and brushed his feet on the horizontal stab. I don't believe he was injured. For those of you who don't know him, Mike has a fairly light, slim body. Hey, let's be careful out there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerRamjet 0 #33 November 17, 2008 Quote Years ago at Zhills I hopped on a DC3 going to twelve five for a large formation RW jump. I was practicing style for the Nationals and asked the pilot if he could make a run over the DZ at 6600 feet. He said he would but he wouldn't throttle back. We were actually a little high when we reached the exit point so I decided to have a little fun on my exit. I'm a former gymnast so I stood with my back to the door and did as high a back flip as I could. I then got into my dive and did my style routine. When the rest of the load got down a few of them came up to me and said I scared the crap out of them. They said my head missed the horizontal stabilizer by inches! It never occurred to me that it would be possible to actually hit the tail on a DC 3 but apparently I came close. Scary when I think back on it. I can't believe it; I was on the load and remember your back flip vividly! You did come pretty close to the horizontal stab, though I don't remember that it was "inches." Seems like it was a foot or two to me. In the tight tuck you had, not much wind resistance compared to a poised exit. Man I love this forum ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patmoore 14 #34 November 17, 2008 Quote I can't believe it; I was on the load and remember your back flip vividly! You did come pretty close to the horizontal stab, though I don't remember that it was "inches." Seems like it was a foot or two to me. In the tight tuck you had, not much wind resistance compared to a poised exit. Man I love this forum With each retelling, the gap diminishes. Next time it will be centimeters! I'm going to repost the photo someone took of me with my back out the door of the DC3. It wasn't the same jump but it was the same plane and you can get a good idea of how close the horizontal stabilizer is.DZGone.com B-4600, C-3615, D-1814, Gold Wings #326, Diamond Wings #152. If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #35 November 17, 2008 Hi pat, Is that main container some type of homemade item? I don't recognize it as being one of the mainstream rigs. Especially with only the one elastic. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patmoore 14 #36 November 17, 2008 Quote Hi pat, Is that main container some type of homemade item? I don't recognize it as being one of the mainstream rigs. Especially with only the one elastic. JerryBaumchen Yep, I built custom rigs for Florida jumpers back in the seventies. That was a mismatched style rig I put together. When I opened an employment agency in Springfield, MA in 1981 I needed some startup money and sold my Singer 7-33 harness machine to Joe Smith in Pennsylvania. The Adler that I built the containers with burned along with everything else in my apartment in 1994. I do have an old Singer 31-15 left but it doesn't get much use these days.DZGone.com B-4600, C-3615, D-1814, Gold Wings #326, Diamond Wings #152. If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #37 November 17, 2008 Quote Quote I can't believe it; I was on the load and remember your back flip vividly! You did come pretty close to the horizontal stab, though I don't remember that it was "inches." Seems like it was a foot or two to me. In the tight tuck you had, not much wind resistance compared to a poised exit. Man I love this forum With each retelling, the gap diminishes. Next time it will be centimeters! I'm going to repost the photo someone took of me with my back out the door of the DC3. It wasn't the same jump but it was the same plane and you can get a good idea of how close the horizontal stabilizer is. Hell Pat, the way your story is going, next time you tell us about it your going to hit it!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim_Hooper 3 #38 November 18, 2008 Quote How many remember when this was the way an exit was “pulled” out? A single file DC-3 exit. A single file DC-3 exit.Sparky Single file indeed. Hoop Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Usetawuz 1 #39 November 26, 2008 Kinda late adding my comment but I was there too and remember those incidents well. As you say: there have been "better days". _________________________________________ The older I get, the better I was! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #40 November 28, 2008 Yep. Start counting seconds as soon as the exit happens, hit an Iron Cross out the door, then attack the earth for the number of seconds you counted until exitting. Formation was right there, every time. Oh, and always target the side of the formation, not the formation itself.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #41 November 28, 2008 Quote Single file indeed. Nice! I always had fun swooping out of a DC-3.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonstark 8 #42 November 28, 2008 Last door on the right, first star on the left. Get in or go in. jon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites