JustPlainChic 0 #1 September 10, 2003 I was wondering if anyone had any advice for me. I was moving along pretty quick and learning alot of stuff just a few months ago, but now it seems as if I bomb the simplest dives. I have around 77 jumps and I have heard this is common to some people. So if anyone has any advice, I wouold appreciate it greatly! Laura "Belle" 'Blue Skies' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #2 September 10, 2003 Do a dive and have video done. Then, sit down with someone experienced and review it in slow motion. Pay special attention to approaches and docks. Look at your body position at these points. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tattoojeff 0 #3 September 10, 2003 learning definitly comes in spurts. but also perception can make you feel your not improving, when actualy your expectations have risen subconsiously. for me learning comes in revelations.all of a sudden something will click thats usualy has been there all along just waiting for you to realize it. then Blam!!!! it clicks. its the time period between Clicks that feels like your not improving. just remember sometimes improving is simply waiting till the next click. peace Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tattoojeff 0 #4 September 10, 2003 man im spitting out pearls tonight.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skymick 0 #5 September 10, 2003 I found I was the same for a while, after about 40 jumps or so to about 150 jumps, i would do jumps where they wernt debreifed properly (or at all) and not well organised so I didnt learn squat. I finally did the 4 way team thing, got proper coaching and after that I though those 100 or so jumps early were basically a waste. I learnt shitloads in such a short time. So the moral of the story is get coaching in whatever disipline you are doing...they may cost more in the shit term but its cheaper overall rather then wasting money on more jumps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites D22369 0 #6 September 10, 2003 Relax..... are you jumping with others at about your same skill level? if so, the problem may not be you at all...... get video and possibly coaching dives..... even more importantly: dont get discouraged RoyThey say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites slotperfect 7 #7 September 10, 2003 Break free from "training" and get involved in a skydive that is just plain fun. You can request it and get someone else to organize it for you. Anything goes, really . . . I just see that a change of pace might be the ice breaker you're looking for.Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 24 #8 September 10, 2003 QuoteI think I've hit my plateau I think I should point out that you've hit A plateau.... This sport has a long, slow learning curve (it may seam very steep at some point, but fact is, it takes a long time to get things right). Dont discourage yourself though... You're at a point where many jumpers loose interest, kinda stuck in limbo between being a student and being able to do waht you want (which may be turn many points, or fall on your head with lots of people, or whatever you want). Dont loose that goal, and actively seek people to help you and have fun with!Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JustPlainChic 0 #9 September 10, 2003 Thanks everyone for your advice. I'll have to try some of your suggestions this weekend! Laura "Belle" 'Blue Skies' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 7 #10 September 10, 2003 Relax it happens... I see many 50-200 jump people seem to stall out. One reason is that you are just not learning as fast as you were. Its normal. The other is you have alread learned so mush you think you should be better. We used to have this in martial arts..."Blue belt blues". Same thing you have moments of brilliance followed by a really bad performance. Its caused by: You are not a newbie now and most people treat you like an up jumper. So you are no longer being looked after as much, so you don't get feedback on every jump anymore. You are jumping with different people and they sometimes screw up, but you don't know enough yet to know its them screwing up not you...they might not know either. Sometimes you are on a load with people much more experienced...Being next to a really good jumper can make you feel stupid. You are trying harder things than before...Bigger formations harder points more points. It will start to even out. you can: Get coaching. Jump smaller groups. Get a team. Do some tunnel. ASK FOR FEEDBACK from the most experienced person on that jump. Many times I will not give feedback unless you screwed up, unless asked....Some people don't want it. I tell people that if I don't point you out it means you did well. That the great moves will be talked about, and the bad ones will be laughed at. Relax it happens and things will come together. ron"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites towerrat 0 #11 September 10, 2003 You also have to realize that you are only learning in one minute increments.Can you really think of any other sports where the actual practice time is so short? I think you are being a little hard on yourself. Relax and enjoy yourself! --------------------------------Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mad47 0 #12 September 10, 2003 Most importantly, don't get frustrated and never think that you know enough. There will be a lot of jumps when you feel like you learn a whole bunch and a lot of new plateaus as well. The key thing is to find / be around people who can always offer something new for you. Try to use every chance to jump with good skydivers and never save money on coaching and video. Having a good skydiver next to you in freefall and having yourself videotaped helps to move from plateau and hit the next level like nothing else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jsaxton 0 #13 September 12, 2003 Nothing another 1000 jumps won't fix! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
tattoojeff 0 #3 September 10, 2003 learning definitly comes in spurts. but also perception can make you feel your not improving, when actualy your expectations have risen subconsiously. for me learning comes in revelations.all of a sudden something will click thats usualy has been there all along just waiting for you to realize it. then Blam!!!! it clicks. its the time period between Clicks that feels like your not improving. just remember sometimes improving is simply waiting till the next click. peace Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattoojeff 0 #4 September 10, 2003 man im spitting out pearls tonight.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymick 0 #5 September 10, 2003 I found I was the same for a while, after about 40 jumps or so to about 150 jumps, i would do jumps where they wernt debreifed properly (or at all) and not well organised so I didnt learn squat. I finally did the 4 way team thing, got proper coaching and after that I though those 100 or so jumps early were basically a waste. I learnt shitloads in such a short time. So the moral of the story is get coaching in whatever disipline you are doing...they may cost more in the shit term but its cheaper overall rather then wasting money on more jumps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D22369 0 #6 September 10, 2003 Relax..... are you jumping with others at about your same skill level? if so, the problem may not be you at all...... get video and possibly coaching dives..... even more importantly: dont get discouraged RoyThey say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #7 September 10, 2003 Break free from "training" and get involved in a skydive that is just plain fun. You can request it and get someone else to organize it for you. Anything goes, really . . . I just see that a change of pace might be the ice breaker you're looking for.Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #8 September 10, 2003 QuoteI think I've hit my plateau I think I should point out that you've hit A plateau.... This sport has a long, slow learning curve (it may seam very steep at some point, but fact is, it takes a long time to get things right). Dont discourage yourself though... You're at a point where many jumpers loose interest, kinda stuck in limbo between being a student and being able to do waht you want (which may be turn many points, or fall on your head with lots of people, or whatever you want). Dont loose that goal, and actively seek people to help you and have fun with!Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustPlainChic 0 #9 September 10, 2003 Thanks everyone for your advice. I'll have to try some of your suggestions this weekend! Laura "Belle" 'Blue Skies' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #10 September 10, 2003 Relax it happens... I see many 50-200 jump people seem to stall out. One reason is that you are just not learning as fast as you were. Its normal. The other is you have alread learned so mush you think you should be better. We used to have this in martial arts..."Blue belt blues". Same thing you have moments of brilliance followed by a really bad performance. Its caused by: You are not a newbie now and most people treat you like an up jumper. So you are no longer being looked after as much, so you don't get feedback on every jump anymore. You are jumping with different people and they sometimes screw up, but you don't know enough yet to know its them screwing up not you...they might not know either. Sometimes you are on a load with people much more experienced...Being next to a really good jumper can make you feel stupid. You are trying harder things than before...Bigger formations harder points more points. It will start to even out. you can: Get coaching. Jump smaller groups. Get a team. Do some tunnel. ASK FOR FEEDBACK from the most experienced person on that jump. Many times I will not give feedback unless you screwed up, unless asked....Some people don't want it. I tell people that if I don't point you out it means you did well. That the great moves will be talked about, and the bad ones will be laughed at. Relax it happens and things will come together. ron"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #11 September 10, 2003 You also have to realize that you are only learning in one minute increments.Can you really think of any other sports where the actual practice time is so short? I think you are being a little hard on yourself. Relax and enjoy yourself! --------------------------------Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad47 0 #12 September 10, 2003 Most importantly, don't get frustrated and never think that you know enough. There will be a lot of jumps when you feel like you learn a whole bunch and a lot of new plateaus as well. The key thing is to find / be around people who can always offer something new for you. Try to use every chance to jump with good skydivers and never save money on coaching and video. Having a good skydiver next to you in freefall and having yourself videotaped helps to move from plateau and hit the next level like nothing else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsaxton 0 #13 September 12, 2003 Nothing another 1000 jumps won't fix! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
