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3 minutes ago, billvon said:

They are.  They are adding 170 GIGAWATTS of solar in 2023.  That's the energy equivalent of 45 new nuclear power plants.

Wind is similar.  They added 110 gigawatts of wind in 2022, and are on track to do the same for this year.

Compare that to 95 gigawatts of new coal capability under construction in 2023.

Except not exactly 

“After the permitting spree of the past year, China now has 243 GW of coal-fired capacity currently permitted and under construction. 

If the permitting rush is not stopped until projects that are currently announced or in pre-permit stages have gained permits as well, there will be a total of 392 GW of new coal-fired power capacity in the pipeline.”

https://energyandcleanair.org/publication/chinas-new-coal-power-spree-continues-as-more-provinces-jump-on-the-bandwagon/#:~:text=After the permitting spree of,currently permitted and under construction.

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2 hours ago, lippy said:

You're asking why they're not using wind and solar to build the equipment to build out the infrastructure for wind and solar?  

Again, Brent makes the case that wind and solar aren't here to support 100% of our energy needs right out of the gate and so they're not viable options.  And again I'll ask: did you keep the receipt for that MBA?

We could do him a solid and go there to beat their asses and get his money back.

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47 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Except not exactly 

“After the permitting spree of the past year, China now has 243 GW of coal-fired capacity currently permitted and under construction. 

When will those be finished?

Because according to this, China currently has 379GW in solar under construction, and on course to add another 371GW  of wind capacity before 2025.

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3 hours ago, kallend said:

All my R/C planes are electric now.  I have over 40.  Here are a few.  I hope you like the USAF Academy's Twotter with jump door.

 

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Philosophy question - is a model Typhoon that a human is able to fly actually a good model? 

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24 minutes ago, olofscience said:

When will those be finished?

Because according to this, China currently has 379GW in solar under construction, and on course to add another 371GW  of wind capacity before 2025.

That makes perfect sense as wind and solar need to be backed up by thermal and/or hydro for those times when the sun doesn’t shine and the wind doesn’t blow.

For China it’s not renewables or coal it is renewables and coal, and we haven’t even mentioned India…yet.

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7 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

....For China it’s not renewables or coal it is renewables and coal, and we haven’t even mentioned India…yet.

After a decade of trolling and hundreds of threads you finally admit what you've known all along.

Please, please, don't start a whole new avalanche of threads on India now.

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9 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

BTW did you catch the thread about California’s collapsing home solar market? 

Right.  Just like the 50% increase in EV sales per year is a "collapse of the EV market."  And the 40% decline in coal power generation in the US is proof that coal is the future.

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11 minutes ago, billvon said:

Right.  Just like the 50% increase in EV sales per year is a "collapse of the EV market."  And the 40% decline in coal power generation in the US is proof that coal is the future.

Coal was just supplanted by a cheaper fossil fuel, natural gas.  Hardly a green energy revolution.  BTW that characterization of the state of California’s solar industry was by a solar power trade group not me.

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20 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

 maybe some kid sorts out how to tap into the planets electric field 

I saw a youtube video of a college professor about electric motors.  He built and demonstrated an electric motor that ran on the earths magnetic field, no other source of electricity. It was small and barely ran but it did run.

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5 minutes ago, Bigfalls said:

I saw a youtube video of a college professor about electric motors.  He built and demonstrated an electric motor that ran on the earths magnetic field, no other source of electricity. It was small and barely ran but it did run.

OMG the coal miners will lose jobs.

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39 minutes ago, Bigfalls said:

I saw a youtube video of a college professor about electric motors.  He built and demonstrated an electric motor that ran on the earths magnetic field, no other source of electricity. 

That's a piece of cake!  Put a satellite in orbit and have a free-spinning magnet in the center.  It will spin once an orbit to align with the Earth's magnetic field.

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8 minutes ago, billvon said:

That's a piece of cake!  Put a satellite in orbit and have a free-spinning magnet in the center.  It will spin once an orbit to align with the Earth's magnetic field.

Energy is everywhere. Transitioning from stored mined energy to tapping and using all the various forms of radiation streaming from the giant fusion machine a mere 1 AU away is only an engineering problem to be solved. That will take some time and a lot of political will. But is within easier grasp than pie in the sky stuff like colonies on Mars. 

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1 hour ago, billvon said:

That's a piece of cake!  Put a satellite in orbit and have a free-spinning magnet in the center.  It will spin once an orbit to align with the Earth's magnetic field.

Great, thanks for giving us cake to eat. Now get after it please.

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