Trump’s Online War Machine

[Phil1111 911]

Evidently pro-trump online trolls are getting semi-professional. As if those in SC and Facebook don't know it. A group calling itself the title of this thread is going all out with trump's approval and applause to:

"the group traffics freely in misinformation, artificial intelligence and digital forgeries known as deepfakes. Its memes are riddled with racist stereotypes, demeaning tropes about L.G.B.T.Q. people and broad scatological humor.

Their most vulgar invectives are often aimed at women, particularly those seen as enemies of Mr. Trump. In one video, the former United Nations ambassador Nikki Haley’s face is pasted on the body of a nearly naked woman, who kicks a man with the face of Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida in the groin. Another depicts Casey DeSantis, the governor’s wife, as a porn star. Women with ties to Mr. DeSantis are often shown with red knees, suggesting they have performed a sex act."

The party of "GOD" , freedom and the little guy just doing more of its thing. All while faking standards, decency and morals.

[GeorgiaDon 340]

They'll just say that's all locker room talk.  Don't you have a sense of humor?  Also, all "real men" talk like that.

[billvon 2,400]

1 hour ago, GeorgiaDon said:

They'll just say that's all locker room talk.  Don't you have a sense of humor?  Also, all "real men" talk like that.

But god forbid there's a RAINBOW at Target!  Then it's the woke drag-queen agenda shoving their filth down your kid's throat!

[GeorgiaDon 340]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

But god forbid there's a RAINBOW at Target!  Then it's the woke drag-queen agenda shoving their filth down your kid's throat!

But what about an actual rainbow, in the sky?  Does that mean God has a woke drag-queen agenda?  If God was MAGA, wouldn't "rainbows" be red, white, and blue?

[lippy 771]

7 hours ago, billvon said:

But god forbid there's a RAINBOW at Target!  Then it's the woke drag-queen agenda shoving their filth down your kid's throat!

The Fox 'n Friends got all bent out of shape when Target had a gay Nutcracker.  The Nutcracker is many things, but straight ain't one of them.  

[headoverheels 291]

4 hours ago, lippy said:

The Fox 'n Friends got all bent out of shape when Target had a gay Nutcracker.  The Nutcracker is many things, but straight ain't one of them.  

There was also that black Santa in a wheelchair.  How lame!

 

[lippy 771]

3 hours ago, headoverheels said:

There was also that black Santa in a wheelchair.  How lame!

 

Well played sir.....well played

[kallend 1,623]

Trump's recent rallies are sounding rather like "In the Flesh" from The Wall.

 

All you need to do is follow The Trump.

Edited December 18, 2023 by kallend

[nigel99 144]

This is quite interesting from ChatGbt and makes an interesting checklist of how and why it is on the rise.

The national identity aspect is quite an interesting one as the US has for as long as I can remember had a stronger emphasis on how great America is and deference to the flag and anthem than most countries have. It certainly stands out for the number of flags flying at homes for example. Beliefs that it is the beacon of democracy and freedom. I can see how easily that could be exploited. Globalisation as the answer to many of the world's problems has been on the decline for some time now - Brexit in the UK and MAGA both come to mind as prominent examples.

Throw in the shock wave of Covid and the fear and uncertainty that brought along with the unregulated and pervasive influence of social media and you can see how it is taking root.

***

The appeal of fascism in certain contexts can be attributed to a combination of historical, social, and psychological factors:

1. **Economic Hardship**: Fascism often gains popularity during times of economic crisis. It promises a swift and decisive solution to financial instability, which can be attractive to those suffering from unemployment, inflation, and economic uncertainty.

2. **Social Unrest and Inequality**: In periods of social unrest or significant inequality, fascist ideologies can seem appealing due to their promise of order and a return to a 'golden age,' real or imagined. This nostalgia for a more stable or 'purer' past can resonate with people feeling dislocated by rapid social changes.

3. **Fear and Insecurity**: Fascist movements often exploit fears and insecurities, whether related to economic conditions, social changes, or external threats. The promise of strong, decisive leadership can be compelling in such a climate.

4. **Nationalism and Identity Politics**: Fascism often emphasizes extreme nationalism. It appeals to people's pride in their country and can create a sense of belonging and purpose. This can be particularly potent in times of perceived national decline or humiliation.

5. **Simplistic Solutions to Complex Problems**: Fascism tends to offer simple solutions to complex issues, making it appealing to those overwhelmed or frustrated by the intricacies of modern politics and global relations.

6. **Charismatic Leadership**: Fascist movements often revolve around charismatic leaders who are skilled at public speaking and mass persuasion, making the ideology more appealing and accessible to a broad audience.

7. **Scapegoating**: Fascism frequently employs scapegoating, blaming specific groups for broader societal problems. This can unify people against a common enemy, albeit through hatred and bigotry.

8. **Control of Information**: Fascist regimes often exert control over the media and spread propaganda to create a narrative that supports their ideology, suppressing dissenting views.

9. **Disillusionment with Existing Political Systems**: In some cases, fascism gains ground when people become disillusioned with the existing political system, especially if it's seen as corrupt, ineffective, or undemocratic.

10. **Militarism and the Cult of Action**: The glorification of violence and action for its own sake, a common trait in fascist ideology, can appeal to a sense of heroism and the desire for a radical transformation of society.

It's important to note that the popularity of fascism often relies on exploiting existing fears, prejudices, and frustrations in a society. Education, critical thinking, and healthy political discourse are crucial in combating the rise of such ideologies. Understanding history and the outcomes of fascist regimes is also vital in recognizing and resisting the allure of these dangerous ideologies.

[JerryBaumchen 1,048]

1 hour ago, nigel99 said:

This is quite interesting from ChatGbt and makes an interesting checklist of how and why it is on the rise.

The national identity aspect is quite an interesting one as the US has for as long as I can remember had a stronger emphasis on how great America is and deference to the flag and anthem than most countries have. It certainly stands out for the number of flags flying at homes for example. Beliefs that it is the beacon of democracy and freedom. I can see how easily that could be exploited. Globalisation as the answer to many of the world's problems has been on the decline for some time now - Brexit in the UK and MAGA both come to mind as prominent examples.

Throw in the shock wave of Covid and the fear and uncertainty that brought along with the unregulated and pervasive influence of social media and you can see how it is taking root.

***

The appeal of fascism in certain contexts can be attributed to a combination of historical, social, and psychological factors:

1. **Economic Hardship**: Fascism often gains popularity during times of economic crisis. It promises a swift and decisive solution to financial instability, which can be attractive to those suffering from unemployment, inflation, and economic uncertainty.

2. **Social Unrest and Inequality**: In periods of social unrest or significant inequality, fascist ideologies can seem appealing due to their promise of order and a return to a 'golden age,' real or imagined. This nostalgia for a more stable or 'purer' past can resonate with people feeling dislocated by rapid social changes.

3. **Fear and Insecurity**: Fascist movements often exploit fears and insecurities, whether related to economic conditions, social changes, or external threats. The promise of strong, decisive leadership can be compelling in such a climate.

4. **Nationalism and Identity Politics**: Fascism often emphasizes extreme nationalism. It appeals to people's pride in their country and can create a sense of belonging and purpose. This can be particularly potent in times of perceived national decline or humiliation.

5. **Simplistic Solutions to Complex Problems**: Fascism tends to offer simple solutions to complex issues, making it appealing to those overwhelmed or frustrated by the intricacies of modern politics and global relations.

6. **Charismatic Leadership**: Fascist movements often revolve around charismatic leaders who are skilled at public speaking and mass persuasion, making the ideology more appealing and accessible to a broad audience.

7. **Scapegoating**: Fascism frequently employs scapegoating, blaming specific groups for broader societal problems. This can unify people against a common enemy, albeit through hatred and bigotry.

8. **Control of Information**: Fascist regimes often exert control over the media and spread propaganda to create a narrative that supports their ideology, suppressing dissenting views.

9. **Disillusionment with Existing Political Systems**: In some cases, fascism gains ground when people become disillusioned with the existing political system, especially if it's seen as corrupt, ineffective, or undemocratic.

10. **Militarism and the Cult of Action**: The glorification of violence and action for its own sake, a common trait in fascist ideology, can appeal to a sense of heroism and the desire for a radical transformation of society.

It's important to note that the popularity of fascism often relies on exploiting existing fears, prejudices, and frustrations in a society. Education, critical thinking, and healthy political discourse are crucial in combating the rise of such ideologies. Understanding history and the outcomes of fascist regimes is also vital in recognizing and resisting the allure of these dangerous ideologies.

Hi Nigel,

If I had to pick one, it would be #5.

I remember Ronald Reagan's 20 words to solve any problem. *

Try it:  It will not work, virtually anything is too complex.

Only the uneducated think this is the answer.

Jerry Baumchen

* Reagan could not think much beyond those 20 words.

 

 

[jakee 1,255]

13 hours ago, nigel99 said:

This is quite interesting from ChatGbt and makes an interesting checklist of how and why it is on the rise.

The national identity aspect is quite an interesting one as the US has for as long as I can remember had a stronger emphasis on how great America is and deference to the flag and anthem than most countries have. It certainly stands out for the number of flags flying at homes for example. Beliefs that it is the beacon of democracy and freedom. I can see how easily that could be exploited. Globalisation as the answer to many of the world's problems has been on the decline for some time now - Brexit in the UK and MAGA both come to mind as prominent examples.

Throw in the shock wave of Covid and the fear and uncertainty that brought along with the unregulated and pervasive influence of social media and you can see how it is taking root.

***

The appeal of fascism in certain contexts can be attributed to a combination of historical, social, and psychological factors:

1. **Economic Hardship**: Fascism often gains popularity during times of economic crisis. It promises a swift and decisive solution to financial instability, which can be attractive to those suffering from unemployment, inflation, and economic uncertainty.

2. **Social Unrest and Inequality**: In periods of social unrest or significant inequality, fascist ideologies can seem appealing due to their promise of order and a return to a 'golden age,' real or imagined. This nostalgia for a more stable or 'purer' past can resonate with people feeling dislocated by rapid social changes.

3. **Fear and Insecurity**: Fascist movements often exploit fears and insecurities, whether related to economic conditions, social changes, or external threats. The promise of strong, decisive leadership can be compelling in such a climate.

4. **Nationalism and Identity Politics**: Fascism often emphasizes extreme nationalism. It appeals to people's pride in their country and can create a sense of belonging and purpose. This can be particularly potent in times of perceived national decline or humiliation.

5. **Simplistic Solutions to Complex Problems**: Fascism tends to offer simple solutions to complex issues, making it appealing to those overwhelmed or frustrated by the intricacies of modern politics and global relations.

6. **Charismatic Leadership**: Fascist movements often revolve around charismatic leaders who are skilled at public speaking and mass persuasion, making the ideology more appealing and accessible to a broad audience.

7. **Scapegoating**: Fascism frequently employs scapegoating, blaming specific groups for broader societal problems. This can unify people against a common enemy, albeit through hatred and bigotry.

8. **Control of Information**: Fascist regimes often exert control over the media and spread propaganda to create a narrative that supports their ideology, suppressing dissenting views.

9. **Disillusionment with Existing Political Systems**: In some cases, fascism gains ground when people become disillusioned with the existing political system, especially if it's seen as corrupt, ineffective, or undemocratic.

10. **Militarism and the Cult of Action**: The glorification of violence and action for its own sake, a common trait in fascist ideology, can appeal to a sense of heroism and the desire for a radical transformation of society.

Brent will be along soon to explain why that all sounds exactly like Biden.

[tkhayes 126]

On 12/18/2023 at 11:40 AM, kallend said:

Trump's recent rallies are sounding rather like "In the Flesh" from The Wall.

 

All you need to do is follow The Trump.

Charlie Sykes Is Unsure About the Future of the G.O.P. - The New York Times (nytimes.com) - Sykes is now one of my favorite listens on his podcast.

On Charlottesville from 2017 interview:

I’m assuming you’re not surprised by Trump’s inability to condemn the white-supremacist march. I’m shocked but not surprised. Denouncing Nazis is the easiest thing in the world: All it requires is a modicum of historical perspective and a working moral compass. Instead, we got this Dumpster fire.

[Phil1111 911]

trump's tiptoeing around Hitler's fascist ideology has a backroom mast strategist. Someone everyone knows:

Insiders have reported that trump will institute interment camps for undocumented immigrants.That he will end birthright citizenship and start mass deportations.