SkyDekker 1,155 #26 May 10, 2023 1 hour ago, RonD1120 said: This: https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/exclusive-us-navy-jet-flew-across-baltic-hours-after-nord-stream-burst-2022-10-07/ 3D tracking revealed more significant data. Just something to think about. 3D tracking? What the hell is 3D tracking? All airplane tracking sites track all the same metrics. The site you mentioned has a "3D" visualization of that data, but it doesn't reveal anything different. Never mind that the title of the article clearly states the aircraft flew over the area hours after the explosion...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,476 #27 May 10, 2023 27 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: 3D tracking? What the hell is 3D tracking? It's like regular tracking but everyone wears green and red glasses. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,083 #28 May 12, 2023 On 5/9/2023 at 9:28 AM, okalb said: Let me guess, you got this info from the same "high level backchannels" that you have gotten all the rest of your incorrect information and predictions from? Hi okalb, If it worked before, why won't it work again? Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 943 #29 May 12, 2023 On 5/10/2023 at 2:59 PM, billvon said: It's like regular tracking but everyone wears green and red glasses. Only for a millisecond was I tempted to google 3D tracking. So thanks for that. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #30 May 13, 2023 (edited) On 5/10/2023 at 4:32 PM, SkyDekker said: 3D tracking? What the hell is 3D tracking? :Line of Flight + Altitude + Air Speed + Time Over Target Edited May 13, 2023 by RonD1120 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,280 #31 May 13, 2023 30 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: :Line of Flight + Altitude + Air Speed + Time Over Target And what among that data was significant about the time this P8 spent over the pipeline after it had blown up? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartsDaddy 4 #32 May 13, 2023 3 hours ago, jakee said: And what among that data was significant about the time this P8 spent over the pipeline after it had blown up? Damage assessment maybe? no matter if it had anything to do with nordstream or not, people like me or you will never know for certain. I would bet there are governments that have no doubt who did it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,280 #33 May 13, 2023 16 minutes ago, BartsDaddy said: Damage assessment maybe? Quite possibly. Makes perfect sense to me that it could have been asked to go and have a look after the explosion was detected. But I’m asking the guy who thinks it attacked the pipeline with a time travelling anti submarine weapon. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,371 #34 May 14, 2023 3 hours ago, BartsDaddy said: Damage assessment maybe? no matter if it had anything to do with nordstream or not, people like me or you will never know for certain. I would bet there are governments that have no doubt who did it. Considering that a LOT of governments have a LOT of interest in what goes on in (and under) the Baltic, I'd bet heavily that everyone in NATO who's cleared for the info knows who did it, and how. Most blame is being aimed at the Russians, Ukrainians & Americans. Motive, opportunity, ability. It wasn't a 'simple' thing to accomplish. Investigators are saying it's almost a certainty that it was a 'state actor'. They also know what explosive was used, which may or may not give indications of who did it (not terribly hard to acquire just about any explosive out there if you have the money & the contacts). Like so many other operations of this sort, the truth will come out eventually. But it may well be a while (years), and it's not out of the question that nobody will believe the truth when it's released. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,155 #35 May 15, 2023 On 5/13/2023 at 9:49 AM, RonD1120 said: :Line of Flight + Altitude + Air Speed + Time Over Target Every airplane tracking website collects/tracks that data. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites