Phil1111 913 #26 August 16, 2022 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: I was going to check the authenticity of the above photo's. Given Brent's long history of just being wrong about so many"facts". Then decided that a second cup was more important. 2 minutes ago, jakee said: Is there any kind of thought germinating in there somewhere? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 51 #27 August 16, 2022 So he reeled in players from both sides, BFD. Does that surprise anyone? I don't think anyone here on the left is making any claims to the inherent virtue of the Democrat party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 388 #28 August 16, 2022 22 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: I was going to check the authenticity of the above photo's. Given Brent's long history of just being wrong about so many"facts". Then decided that a second cup was more important. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #29 August 16, 2022 3 hours ago, brenthutch said: Picture is worth a thousand words That’s a no then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #30 August 16, 2022 (edited) . Edited August 16, 2022 by jakee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,052 #31 August 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Phil1111 said: I was going to check the authenticity of the above photo's. Given Brent's long history of just being wrong about so many"facts". Then decided that a second cup was more important. Hi Phil, Ignorance is bliss. Wow, is that ever right. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,136 #32 August 16, 2022 1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Phil, Ignorance is bliss. Wow, is that ever right. Jerry Baumchen My father’s freshman math professor in college was named Bliss Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,317 #33 August 16, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, brenthutch said: Picture is worth a thousand words If that's true you need to tighten your laterals so you won't need to do the funky chicken to keep from spinning a perfect student. Or maybe the picture proves nothing. Edited August 16, 2022 by JoeWeber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 913 #34 August 16, 2022 4 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Phil, Ignorance is bliss. Wow, is that ever right. Jerry Baumchen Billions of dollars have been invested by FOX, big business, pharma, oil companies, etc. In the creation of the modern conservative. Brent and 65 million GOP voters is the outcome. Like the investments tobacco companies made from the 1920s to the 80s. Investments to create customers addicted to an idea that smoking is cool. That investment for them is now producing results. Since the 1980s Rupert Murdoch and his kin. Have educated conservatives with false science. Peddled ideas that science itself can't be trusted. Sold a pseudo-economic narrative that the same social protections that others in the G-7 enjoy. Can't work in America because companies are inefficient and the American worker can't compete with similar workers in other developed countries. Persuaded conservatives that winner take all is the new democracy standard. Brent is the product of that social engineering. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,918 #35 August 16, 2022 27 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: Brent is the product of that social engineering. And he is a team player. He had a career as a team player and he will die a team player. Loyal to his caste. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 388 #36 August 17, 2022 3 hours ago, gowlerk said: And he is a team player. He had a career as a team player and he will die a team player. Loyal to his caste. No, actually I am a contrarian, you should see what I do to Trumpers on other forums. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,317 #37 August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: No, actually I am a contrarian, you should see what I do to Trumpers on other forums. I don't doubt it. Nor do I doubt that you troll climate deniers in other places. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 388 #38 August 17, 2022 8 hours ago, JoeWeber said: I don't doubt it. Nor do I doubt that you troll climate deniers in other places. No, I truly believe that the whole “climate crisis” thing is overblown. We are going to spend hundreds of billions of dollars “to address climate change” and it will have no impact on the climate. The only thing it will accomplish is to line the pockets of Paul Pelosi and his ilk. Q) Why do need to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on this? A) To save the planet from the ravages of climate change Q) Will it have any measurable impact on the climate? A) No Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,317 #39 August 17, 2022 3 hours ago, brenthutch said: No, I truly believe that the whole “climate crisis” thing is overblown. We are going to spend hundreds of billions of dollars “to address climate change” and it will have no impact on the climate. The only thing it will accomplish is to line the pockets of Paul Pelosi and his ilk. Q) Why do need to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on this? A) To save the planet from the ravages of climate change Q) Will it have any measurable impact on the climate? A) No We spent $2 Trillion in Afghanistan and Iraq and survived, what's a couple hundred billion? Even if you are a true believer you must know that the day's of using fossil fuels for energy needs on planet Earth are numbered. You'll also be acutely aware that waiting until the last barrel is burnt to make a change isn't smart policy. Also, global consensus on when to invest in the energies of the future will never happen. Those truths exist independently of any belief that burning fossil fuels will have measurable negative impacts on the climate. So what to do? Think of it like the guy who loses it all trying to time the market top in any asset class; the smart money will see the bubble and exit early for the next thing. We're talking the world here and 100 years is a blink. Common sense say's that the sooner we get after it the better. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 388 #40 August 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: We spent $2 Trillion in Afghanistan and Iraq and survived, what's a couple hundred billion? Even if you are a true believer you must know that the day's of using fossil fuels for energy needs on planet Earth are numbered. You'll also be acutely aware that waiting until the last barrel is burnt to make a change isn't smart policy. When and if we run out of fossil fuels, it will happen slowly over many many decades (more than a hundred years). As it does they will become more expensive (again slowly over decades). There will be no need to subsidize uncompetitive technologies at taxpayer expense, market forces alone will drive change. We just have to have the intelligence and courage to do nothing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,317 #41 August 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, brenthutch said: When and if we run out of fossil fuels, it will happen slowly over many many decades (more than a hundred years). As it does they will become more expensive (again slowly over decades). There will be no need to subsidize uncompetitive technologies at taxpayer expense, market forces alone will drive change. We just have to have the intelligence and courage to do nothing. Centuries can be counted in decades, you know. Your premises are speculations, nothing more. The truth is that taxpayer investments in technologies pays off. I don't know where you got your MBA but we're going there to beat their asses and get your money back. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 388 #42 August 17, 2022 33 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: The truth is that taxpayer investments in technologies pays off. Just look at all of the high speed rail we have. Seriously, we will find out just what we are getting for our “investment” in the next few years. If you are right I will be one of the few dinosaurs still driving an IC vehicle if you are wrong (and I suspect you are) gas stations across the country will still be pumping plenty of gas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 422 #43 August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: We just have to have the intelligence and courage to do nothing. Doing nothing doesn't take much intelligence or courage. It's what dead people do. It's what those police at the Uvalde shooting did. You may still have 25 years to go, but it seems you've already kicked the bucket in the mental sense Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 388 #44 August 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, olofscience said: Doing nothing doesn't take much intelligence or courage. It's what dead people do. It's what those police at the Uvalde shooting did. You may still have 25 years to go, but it seems you've already kicked the bucket in the mental sense I set the hook so hard, this fish is never coming off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 422 #45 August 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, brenthutch said: I set the hook so hard, this fish is never coming off. Okay, boomer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #46 August 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, brenthutch said: I set the hook so hard, this fish is never coming off. Aren’t you the guy who just said he wasn’t trolling, or was that another Brent? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 422 #47 August 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, jakee said: Aren’t you the guy who just said he wasn’t trolling, or was that another Brent? Has anyone seen a 'gotcha' or was it just usual brent saying his usual schtick, then saying something that didn't make sense at all? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,317 #48 August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: Just look at all of the high speed rail we have. Seriously, we will find out just what we are getting for our “investment” in the next few years. If you are right I will be one of the few dinosaurs still driving an IC vehicle if you are wrong (and I suspect you are) gas stations across the country will still be pumping plenty of gas. You need to recalibrate your timeline. Nothing about this is being measured by your remaining time alive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 388 #49 August 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: You need to recalibrate your timeline. Nothing about this is being measured by your remaining time alive. So we have an imaginary problem with an imaginary solution and no timeline…sounds about right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 388 #50 August 17, 2022 You guys have a great day, I’m going for a ride https://images.app.goo.gl/LEr2vqf1kAJdtUNo9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites