Woke is a Joke

[richravizza 25]

On 3/11/2024 at 11:41 AM, gowlerk said:

That's why it doesn't happen. Sometimes if they are very insistent they are allowed to begin. Allowing is not the same as encouraging.

I believe the protocol is affirmation.

[richravizza 25]

On 7/10/2021 at 8:31 AM, winsor said:

  I am also skeptical of those who wish to be on the committee.

 

BSBD,

Winsor

Or a board member of Tavistock?

[richravizza 25]

On 1/27/2024 at 6:23 PM, wmw999 said:

And anyway, the Spanish and Portuguese were far more exploitative early on of the New World. Wherever Columbus was from, he was sponsored by the Spanish, and so it was a Spanish conquest. 

Wendy P.

 He was an explorer.His dreams and his greed did compelled him,but regardless of who was flipping the bill,no matter the nation of finance, the exploitation would follow, as a matter of fact. An Oppenheimer's dilemma of sorts.

"Lies my teacher told me" would be simplistic at best.As would judging a man from the distant past by today's moral standard. I find reading what he wrote, without prejudice  a great looking glass.

“Let those who are fond of blaming and finding fault while they sit safely at home ask, ‘Why did you not do thus and so?’ I wish they were on this voyage. 

Edited March 15 by richravizza

[wmw999 2,149]

4 hours ago, richravizza said:

"Lies my teacher told me" would be simplistic at best.

And, too often, the "lies my teacher told me" are simply the lies they were taught themselves.

Wendy P.

[richravizza 25]

On 7/10/2021 at 8:31 AM, winsor said:

Ironically enough, Woke ideology is singularly humorless.  As Gandhi said, "fuck 'em if they can't take a joke."

I thought you could use a laugh. I agree, soon there won't be any contrarian views allowed. Please do replace IXK  for the Priest of your choice. LOL

 

[richravizza 25]

On 3/12/2024 at 9:07 AM, billvon said:

Right.  Like I said, I haven't heard of any of those being the result of a doctor encouraging the patient to do it.

The Wpath files were recently released, parental consent itself seems to be in question.

Mermaid is under investigation,and I believe there are one thousand lawsuits attributed to gender affirming care in the U.K.

That word "Toxic" came up again, let me know then you find it.

Sorry Bill just another Dunkelflaute in SoCal.

Edited May 5 by richravizza

[winsor 187]

1 hour ago, richravizza said:

The Wpath files were recently released, parental consent itself seems to be in question.

Mermaid is under investigation,and I believe there are one thousand lawsuits attributed to gender affirming care in the U.K.

That word "Toxic" came up again, let me know then you find it.

Sorry Bill just another Dunkelflaute in SoCal.

Brilliant video.

These guys cut to the chase.

 

[richravizza 25]

On 1/27/2024 at 3:17 PM, gowlerk said:

Very little written by one person in this thread suggests knowledge of English.

Whoa, Did you get a good spanking from Bill for saying that, I believe the code word is Clueless. LOL

 

[richravizza 25]

23 minutes ago, winsor said:

Brilliant video.

These guys cut to the chase.

 

 The evening is young Sir,

Bidens rewriting of Title IV seems to have put me in "John the savage" mode.Desantis said"we will not comply", where did I hear that before?

Samson, what a name. LOL

 

Edited May 5 by richravizza
samson LOL

[richravizza 25]

Hi there Winsor,

 I was hoping to get your thought on how iatrogenesis may have contributed to what seems like one of the worse medical maltreatment in modern times,in line with the Covid vax and in basic violation of the Nernberg Code. Not quite as brilliant as Heresies let me know what you make of this one.

Groomer or entrapment just a matter of context. LOL

[wmw999 2,149]

It’d be nice if, instead of posting narrative videos which are worse than PowerPoints in eliminating all disagreeing data, y’all would take the actual information (with a little more detail than “liberal bad, conservative good”) and provide the relevant data.

Wendy P. 

[gowlerk 1,929]

10 hours ago, richravizza said:

Whoa, Did you get a good spanking from Bill for saying that, I believe the code word is Clueless. LOL

 

With all this talk of killfiles going on I can only tell you that some people don't make my killfile simply for the same reason train wreck films are popular. I know it's wrong, but I can't look away from the entertainment. Sort of like the reason clowns are popular.

[wolfriverjoe 1,351]

4 hours ago, wmw999 said:

It’d be nice if, instead of posting narrative videos which are worse than PowerPoints in eliminating all disagreeing data, y’all would take the actual information (with a little more detail than “liberal bad, conservative good”) and provide the relevant data.

Wendy P. 

Wait a minute...

You expect him to present actual DATA??

Supporting evidence for his assertions?

Oh please.

[wmw999 2,149]

Like I said, I’m new here 
Wendy P. 

[winsor 187]

5 hours ago, wmw999 said:

It’d be nice if, instead of posting narrative videos which are worse than PowerPoints in eliminating all disagreeing data, y’all would take the actual information (with a little more detail than “liberal bad, conservative good”) and provide the relevant data.

Wendy P. 

If you dispute the stance of the videos, fine.  I am impressed that the data regarding Tavistock were laid out in a rather coherent fashion

FWIW, a social liberal/fiscal conservative is viewed by 'progressives' as a right wing reactionary, and someone who is indifferent to race or sex from a employment or political standpoint is similarly excoriated.  I call bullshit.

In the '70s the bright eyed, bushy tailed Liberal Arts types in Boston/Cambridge were hell bent on stopping nuclear power by shrill demonstrations, breaking through fences, chaining themselves to things and whatnot.  When I pointed out that they came across to voters as malevolent morons on screen, and thus largely invalidated what were otherwise legitimate concerns, it seemed to be a novel concept.  I had to explain that the plants were built to turn a profit, and that ensuring that nuke plants were a money pit would guarantee that NOBODY would build the next one.

Strangely enough, being buried in very expensive paperwork increased the cost of a nuke plant tenfold, and construction of new plants came to  a screeching halt.  The key to halting nuke plants wasn't people on screen behaving as equally frantic and feeble minded, it was people in three piece suits with briefcases ensuring that it was unprofitable.

A real issue with today's 'liberals' is the assumption that there are only two positions on any issue.  You are either in favor of bringing murder charges for a miscarriage or are fine with partial birth abortions.  To point out that the German approach where it is abortion before 15 weeks gestation IIRC, and falls under another category thereafter, seems to work falls on deaf ears.

Living and working with people of all persuasions without making a big deal about it is characterized as intolerant, where failing to celebrate ethnic and sexual diversity is unacceptable.  To treat people by the content of their character instead of the color of their skin or who they sleep with is met with horror, so Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. would be seen as spouting right wing ideology.

It's hard to take such nonsense seriously, and Poe's law comes into play.  The videos are a useful for a reality check.  It is fallacious to assume that if one side is wrong the other  must be right (hint: in general, the extremes of both sides are equally repellent).

You are young, but I can still recall when 'liberal' was generally moderate and did not imply hard core Marxism.  Hearing out contrary positions and trying to understand them without actually agreeing with them was the goal.  Now it is considered unacceptable to allowing someone from a differing stance to speak. 

Just because I am willing to hear someone out does not mean I support their position, quite the contrary.  When I read the Koran or Mein Kampf or the Communist Manifesto I did not do so with the intent of adopting the particular ideology, but wanted some enlightenment regarding those who adhered to the principles therein.  In each case I was left with the conviction that followers of any of these were pathologically mentally ill..

Getting back to your complaint, videos can be quite useful.  If you have a point to make regarding their content, fine,  If you are stuck on Argumentum ad Hominem, either Circumstantial or Abusive, your point is moot.

 

BSBD,

Winsor

 

[BIGUN 1,073]

21 minutes ago, winsor said:

If you are stuck on Argumentum ad Hominem, either Circumstantial or Abusive, your point is moot.

She didn't engage in argumentum ad hominem - you did. 

[jakee 1,259]

30 minutes ago, winsor said:

A real issue with today's 'liberals' is the assumption that there are only two positions on any issue.  You are either in favor of bringing murder charges for a miscarriage or are fine with partial birth abortions.  To point out that the German approach where it is abortion before 15 weeks gestation IIRC, and falls under another category thereafter, seems to work falls on deaf ears.

Winsor's got a point here - that is exactly why the liberal Supreme Court overturned Roe V Wade after all, it just didn't go far enough for them! What a great example of liberal extremism he has found there.

 

While he's always had some overly simplistic and reactionary views I am genuinely surprised that Winsor has become the single most toxic contributor here. 

[olofscience 423]

1 hour ago, winsor said:

Strangely enough, being buried in very expensive paperwork increased the cost of a nuke plant tenfold, and construction of new plants came to  a screeching halt. The key to halting nuke plants wasn't people on screen behaving as equally frantic and feeble minded, it was people in three piece suits with briefcases ensuring that it was unprofitable.

This is fake news, and just shows how Winsor doesn't know anything about nuclear power plants.

Nuclear has NEVER been cheap. Even China, with its lax safety regulations, prefers to build coal power plants (hi Brent!) and solar (uh oh) than Nuclear power plants.

 

Saves him from thinking, as over-simplifying it to "these woke snowflakes made nuclear expensive" is easy on the ol' brain. And his anecdote from the 70s gives him that nice warm feeling that he's superior to those "bright eyed, bushy tailed Liberal Arts types".

 

Predictable, though - look what a 4-year old article says:

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Should any discussion of nuclear power go on for long enough, it becomes inevitable that someone will rant that the only reason it has become unaffordable is a proliferation of safety regulations. The argument is rarely (if ever) fleshed out—no specific regulation is ever identified as problematic

 

Edited May 5 by olofscience

[jakee 1,259]

1 hour ago, olofscience said:

Saves him from thinking, as over-simplifying it to "these woke snowflakes made nuclear expensive" is easy on the ol' brain. And his anecdote from the 70s gives him that nice warm feeling that he's superior to those "bright eyed, bushy tailed Liberal Arts types".

And yet if he went to college it definitely would have been as an English major.

[richravizza 25]

6 hours ago, gowlerk said:

With all this talk of killfiles going on I can only tell you that some people don't make my killfile simply for the same reason train wreck films are popular. I know it's wrong, but I can't look away from the entertainment. Sort of like the reason clowns are popular.

I'm a First Amendment absolutists, so I disagree with Winsor and the killfile thing. I think there's a lot of history and hidden resentment in Bills motivations and in judgement in being our arbiter.

But I'll agree with you. Cutting out the jesters tongue,is never a good sign for the court...On the clown subject. I'd suggest Drag Queen story hour be moved to the appropriate venue,Like the Local Seniors Center.LOL 

2 hours ago, jakee said:

 

While he's always had some overly simplistic and reactionary views I am genuinely surprised that Winsor has become the single most toxic contributor here. 

It's called courage,but you have no idea what that means.I'd be interested in what policies on the left you disagree with,what makes you different from the other sheep in the heard. 

Like Winsor,I'm a toxic white man, cracker! I'll PM him, tell him to be less toxic, less white.

forget coka cola I'm rock'n with the bubbly.

[jakee 1,259]

24 minutes ago, richravizza said:

It's called courage,

Yes, it is a vey special form of courage to parrot the prevailing right wing culture war nonsense of the day while deliberately blanking any opposing opinion. What kind of medal would you recommend?

[richravizza 25]

4 hours ago, winsor said:

If you dispute the stance of the videos, fine.  I am impressed that the data regarding Tavistock were laid out in a rather coherent fashion

 Being that I am technically defiant. Please copy this thread. Erec Smith may want to use it as a case study, if not, a memoir or an interactive novelet may be an idea.$

 There is so much subject matter in Hereocies,so many points of contention.One in particular, the gay equation, that 80% of patients were gay. Like the Chloe Cole case this fact hits home. The dark joke, inside an Institution that "there won't be any gay kids, they'll all be trans"sic.

4 hours ago, winsor said:

You are young, but I can still recall when 'liberal' was generally moderate and did not imply hard core Marxism.  Hearing out contrary positions and trying to understand them without actually agreeing with them was the goal.  Now it is considered unacceptable to allowing someone from a differing stance to speak. 

Or in Murry's words;

"You don't have to agree with everyone's principle, to respect the principle they're sticking to." 

 

[richravizza 25]

2 hours ago, jakee said:

Yes, it is a vey special form of courage to parrot the prevailing right wing culture war nonsense of the day while deliberately blanking any opposing opinion. What kind of medal would you recommend?

 Courage involves risk and personal loss or injury without compensation. Acts of courage are not motivated by meatballs or metals. Some Selflessness is required.

 I'm surprised he hasn't lost is livelihood, career and reputation, albeit this thread, because so many professors have. What's in it for them, nothing. Stoicism comes to mind but that's for another day.

https://environmentalprogress.org/big-news/wpath-files

 

8 hours ago, wmw999 said:

Like I said, I’m new here 
Wendy P. 

  The reasoning for my posts is to find one common denominator with anyone other than Winsor. Liberals use to try to find common bonds among those they disagree,but that doesn't seem to be the case any longer.

PS That smile on your avatar,I find it contagious.

 

[lippy 776]

1 hour ago, richravizza said:

 Liberals use to try to find common bonds among those they disagree,but that doesn't seem to be the case any longer.

When you hold up the Fox News caricature of Liberals to pigeon-hole anyone who’s not in political lockstep with you, you can make all kinds of accusations about those darn evil Liberals. 
 

If only there was some place that you could engage in honest conversation with Liberals to understand what they think, what they want….(do they eat food, like normal humans?)…some kind of conversational ‘forum’ to engage in open dialogue. Welp, since nothing of the sort exists, best get back to sharing libtard videos with Winsor on the dizzyDotCom. 

[richravizza 25]

 

2 hours ago, lippy said:

If

"When you hold up the Fox News caricature of Liberals to pigeon-hole anyone who’s not in political lockstep with you, you can make all kinds of accusations about those darn evil Liberals."

 Brent once told me he doesn't think Liberals are evil...just wrong. I couldn't agree more. I don't watch Fox.Come to think of it, even if it's a topic I want to bring up, I avoid a Faux news source as I know it might hurt your sensibilities,inducing tone deafness.

 If you Could agree with Don Lemon, that woke has become a religion of sorts, we might see eye to eye on something.But true to form,and right when I thought you were flirting with me, Whoa, that's some bad breath. "Welp, since nothing of the sort exists, best get back to sharing libtard videos with Winsor on the dizzyDotCom. " 

You should revisit my sources,identity politics being the priority, excluding Bill Maher, I hope you find something interesting about them.

What genre do you like? I'll try and find something special just for you.