SkyDekker 1,122 #1 Posted August 4, 2020 Here is the full version. If you are a US right winger, what type of mental gymnastics do you do to support this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 911 #2 August 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: Here is the full version. If you are a US right winger, what type of mental gymnastics do you do to support this? Most don't have brains...duh! The others get the right brain, left brain short circuit thing then its all good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 22 #3 August 4, 2020 not american. not right wing. five minutes into this and my brain started to melt. wtf? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,121 #4 August 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, feuergnom said: five minutes into this Well there's your problem right there... Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #5 August 4, 2020 34 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: Here is the full version. If you are a US right winger, what type of mental gymnastics do you do to support this? In life we all learn to ignore things, they will have no problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #6 August 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, gowlerk said: In life we all learn to ignore things, they will have no problem. One can support the foundation of a thing without supporting all facets of its head. I believe that has been touched on here regarding the choice the DNC is making. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #8 August 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: One can support the foundation of a thing without supporting all facets of its head. A thousand people a day are dying: It is what it is. Quite the foundation you are supporting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #9 August 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: A thousand people a day are dying: It is what it is. Quite the foundation you are supporting. That is because of a virus. The virus is not the foundation of of a political belief system. Unless you are talking about things like Gun Violence in liberal led areas. Chicago had a gun death count of 12, out pacing covid, that claimed 11. https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shooting-shootings-this-weekend-violence-how-many-shot-in/6325301/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #10 August 4, 2020 37 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: That is because of a virus. The virus is not the foundation of of a political belief system But the response to the pandemic is. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #11 August 4, 2020 1 hour ago, SkyDekker said: Here is the full version. If you are a US right winger, what type of mental gymnastics do you do to support this? Hi Sky, If there ever was prima facie evidence that he is a complete & total nut case, this is it. Jerry Baumchen https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1598 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #12 August 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: But the response to the pandemic is. No - The response to the pandemic is not the foundation either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 421 #13 August 4, 2020 (edited) 58 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: The virus is not the foundation of of a political belief system. All evidence points to you making the man the foundation of YOUR political belief system. Any conservatives or Republicans who speak out against him are automatically "far-left". I have many disagreements with actual conservatives, but you are not a conservative. For you, he is the center and foundation. Actually, this would make perfect sense as to why you call yourself "centrist"... Edited August 4, 2020 by olofscience Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #14 August 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: No - The response to the pandemic is not the foundation either. Doing nothing unless you can make money for white men is most certainly the foundation of the Republican party. Doing nothing, because at the time it mostly affected blue states is most certainly at the core of the current Republican Party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #15 August 4, 2020 Just now, SkyDekker said: Doing nothing unless you can make money for white men is most certainly the foundation of the Republican party. Doing nothing, because at the time it mostly affected blue states is most certainly at the core of the current Republican Party. Incorrect. That isn't true anymore than saying that foundation for liberalism is the support of planned parenthood and all liberals want to kill babies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #16 August 4, 2020 Just now, turtlespeed said: Incorrect. That isn't true anymore than saying that foundation for liberalism is the support of planned parenthood and all liberals want to kill babies. Liberals indeed want to give women control over their own body. Unlike Republicans who only want to give control to Republican men. recent statement by a Republican Senator is quite clear on that. Which brings us back: only do something if it enriches white men. Thank you for proving my point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #17 August 4, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: Liberals indeed want to give women control over their own body. Unlike Republicans who only want to give control to Republican men. recent statement by a Republican Senator is quite clear on that. Which brings us back: only do something if it enriches white men. Thank you for proving my point. So you admit the foundation of liberals is that they want to kill babies? That doesn't seem right, but if you say so. I'm pretty sure the more moderate liberals would very much disagree with you, just as some more moderate conservatives would argue against a senator for their beliefs. Part of the problem with the system we have is that there are too many decisions made by those like you, that are so far on one side, and like the senator you mention, that is so far on the other side. Edited August 4, 2020 by turtlespeed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #18 August 4, 2020 Swan: Do you support the Investigation Trump: Well, I haven't seen the results yet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #19 August 4, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: So you admit the foundation of liberals is that they want to kill babies? That doesn't seem right, but if you say so. I admit that liberalism indeed feels women should be allowed to have control over their own bodies. So if you want to rephrase that as "killing babies" go ahead. I mean, core American conservatism supports shooting them as soon as they are born as the price of freedom. Edited August 4, 2020 by SkyDekker 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #20 August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, SkyDekker said: I admit that liberalism indeed feels women should be allowed to have control over their own bodies. So if you want to rephrase that as "killing babies" go ahead. I mean, core American conservatism supports shooting them as soon as they are born as the price of freedom. Jesus, you are the left version of Ron here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #21 August 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: I admit that liberalism indeed feels women should be allowed to have control over their own bodies. So if you want to rephrase that as "killing babies" go ahead. I mean, core American conservatism supports shooting them as soon as they are born as the price of freedom. Your version of liberalism is OK with saying that it is killing babies. Fine. I am 100% positive that most liberals wouldn't be of that mind set. Conservatism doesn't support shooting babies at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,121 #22 August 4, 2020 No, he isn’t. Using abortion as a litmus test is just as bullshit as using gun rights as a litmus test. I know pro-choice conservatives (note that I know of NO ONE who advocates killing babies, or late-term elective abortions), and I know gun-owning liberals. Is the woman or the fetus more important? And who decides —. Shouldn’t the woman have the major say? Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #23 August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, turtlespeed said: Conservatism doesn't support shooting babies at all. At what age do you support shooting humans then? Remember the death penalty is a core issue for Republicans, so is "stand your ground". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #24 August 4, 2020 Swan: How do you think history will remember Joe Lewis? Trump: I don't know, I don't know Joe Lewis very well. he didn't come to my inauguration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #25 August 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, wmw999 said: No, he isn’t. Using abortion as a litmus test is just as bullshit as using gun rights as a litmus test. I know pro-choice conservatives (note that I know of NO ONE who advocates killing babies, or late-term elective abortions), and I know gun-owning liberals. Is the woman or the fetus more important? And who decides —. Shouldn’t the woman have the major say? Wendy P. I'm willing to bet that SkyDekker would support late term, if that is what the woman really wanted. I don't think it matters as long as it's her choice. I may be wrong, but I don't think so. I am a pro-choice conservative, but with reasonable limits. I'm pretty sure that you and I are right next to each other on those limits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites