wolfriverjoe 1,345 #51 July 21, 2020 8 hours ago, jakee said: Funny thing about randomness - there are always patterns in it. But when there's a fairly self evident explanation ready to go it doesn't pay too much to assume those patterns must have deeper meaning. "The suspect was later found dead of an apparently self-inflicted gunshot wound near Liberty, New York, multiple law enforcement sources told ABC News. A municipal employee discovered the body in a car. The deceased suspect was an attorney who had a case before Judge Salas in 2015, sources said. A FedEx package addressed to Judge Salas was discovered in the car, sources said." Murder suicide by a disgruntled, probably unstable person with a pre-existing axe to grind... There are reports that the shooter was suffering from cancer. So, in addition to disgruntled, unstable and axe to grind, he may have been on the way out anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #52 July 21, 2020 3 hours ago, turtlespeed said: I saw that. And ignored it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #53 July 21, 2020 4 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said: There are reports that the shooter was suffering from cancer. So, in addition to disgruntled, unstable and axe to grind, he may have been on the way out anyway. And he was a self styled anti-feminist with misogynist incel type views. And he had problems with female lawyers in general, Latino female lawyers in particular, and her specifically. And he’d previously written a manifesto saying the feminist hegemony would only change when men started taking out the women who’d wronged them before offing themselves. But who cares about all that, it must be the Epstein thing really, because come on sheeple!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #54 July 21, 2020 7 hours ago, jakee said: And ignored it? ??? Ignored what? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 913 #55 July 21, 2020 5 hours ago, jakee said: And he was a self styled anti-feminist with misogynist incel type views. And he had problems with female lawyers in general, Latino female lawyers in particular, and her specifically. And he’d previously written a manifesto saying the feminist hegemony would only change when men started taking out the women who’d wronged them before offing themselves. But who cares about all that, it must be the Epstein thing really, because come on sheeple!!!!! Within the conservative, nationalist movement there is in addition a perceived threat from women. They want the same pay as men. Want to take away traditional jobs from men. They want to challenge men in positions of power. Some even think they can have families w/o a husband. A GOP heresy, a nightmare. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,124 #56 July 21, 2020 45 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: Within the conservative, nationalist movement there is in addition a perceived threat from women. They want the same pay as men. Want to take away traditional jobs from men. They want to challenge men in positions of power. Some even think they can have families w/o a husband. A GOP heresy, a nightmare. Remember -- any equal right to a group with prejudice against it is a traditional "in" that the group in power no longer has. What they often don't realize is that the right to get a job where your dad worked wasn't really a right, it was a privilege. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #57 July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, turtlespeed said: ??? Ignored what? The reasons why it would be unconnected to Epstein, and the reasons why it wouldn’t make sense that it was connected to Epstein. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #58 July 21, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Phil1111 said: Within the conservative, nationalist movement there is in addition a perceived threat from women. They want the same pay as men. Want to take away traditional jobs from men. They want to challenge men in positions of power. Some even think they can have families w/o a husband. A GOP heresy, a nightmare. Thats BS - Not very many people think that way anymore. My experience and observation is as follows: 80's - Yeah - but decreasing 90's - Yeah and maybe an upsurge 00's - big decline again 10's - more decline and mostly eliminated 20's - even better Edited July 21, 2020 by turtlespeed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #59 July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, jakee said: The reasons why it would be unconnected to Epstein, and the reasons why it wouldn’t make sense that it was connected to Epstein. Nope. I didn't ignore it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,403 #60 July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, turtlespeed said: Thats BS - Not very many people think that way anymore. My experience and observation is as follows: 80's - Yeah - but decreasing 90's - Yeah and maybe an upsurge 00's - big decline again 10's - more decline and mostly eliminated 2016-2020 - women's claims are reduced to "he said she said" "she would have come forward earlier" "they're really emotional." Women politicians "will do anything" for support. Their value is only in how they look. Fixed it for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,050 #61 July 21, 2020 4 hours ago, wmw999 said: What they often don't realize is that the right to get a job where your dad worked wasn't really a right, it was a privilege. Hi Wendy, I think it is more of a 'do not want to see it' thing. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #62 July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, billvon said: Fixed it for you. One person defines the whole now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,403 #63 July 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: One person defines the whole now? Nope. But the US president has a very large effect on the direction the country goes. He doesn't wear a mask - his supporters don't wear masks. He values women only on their appearance - his supporters do the same. He says you can grab women by the pussy if you're famous - his supporters believe that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #64 July 21, 2020 3 hours ago, turtlespeed said: Nope. I didn't ignore it. lol. Bull fucking shit. Are you just on a mission to descend into a charicature of yourself now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 913 #65 July 21, 2020 4 hours ago, turtlespeed said: Thats BS - Not very many people think that way anymore. My experience and observation is as follows: 80's - Yeah - but decreasing 90's - Yeah and maybe an upsurge 00's - big decline again 10's - more decline and mostly eliminated 20's - even better As usual the FOX/GOP Kool Aid has been consumed in usual quantity. Of course you know there are studies on this subject. But instead choose Sean Hannity's figures. US wage parity gap 22% in 2020. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #66 July 21, 2020 51 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: As usual the FOX/GOP Kool Aid has been consumed in usual quantity. Of course you know there are studies on this subject. But instead choose Sean Hannity's figures. US wage parity gap 22% in 2020. You are a liar, sir. Do you always come up with your own narrative? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
