Anybody but Trump

[JerryBaumchen 1,048]

Hi folks,

Finally, some sanity is beginning to show:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/18/orlando-sentinel-2020-endorsement-donald-trump-1367031

‘The principal newspaper in Orlando, Fla., where the president is set to kick off his reelection bid Tuesday, has already announced its 2020 White House endorsement: anyone but Donald Trump.'

And you can buy these:  https://www.amazon.com/Functioning-Sticker-Political-Presidential-Election/dp/B07DX5SWSL/ref=sxts_sxwds-bia?crid=14HTFBQANVUK7&keywords=any+functioning+adult+2020+bumper+sticker&pd_rd_i=B07DX5SWSL&pd_rd_r=3a07138a-2a7d-4c3b-a285-b5af964e4132&pd_rd_w=9OIFj&pd_rd_wg=kFVO6&pf_rd_p=b0a90583-d22c-4c32-806b-f09cd6946e61&pf_rd_r=H8492DA2VS978WRJF26K&qid=1560882742&s=gateway&sprefix=any+functioning%2Caps%2C567

I have one on my car & my motorcycle.

Jerry Baumchen

[turtlespeed 212]

2 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

Finally, some sanity is beginning to show:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/18/orlando-sentinel-2020-endorsement-donald-trump-1367031

‘The principal newspaper in Orlando, Fla., where the president is set to kick off his reelection bid Tuesday, has already announced its 2020 White House endorsement: anyone but Donald Trump.'

 

And you can buy these:  https://www.amazon.com/Functioning-Sticker-Political-Presidential-Election/dp/B07DX5SWSL/ref=sxts_sxwds-bia?crid=14HTFBQANVUK7&keywords=any+functioning+adult+2020+bumper+sticker&pd_rd_i=B07DX5SWSL&pd_rd_r=3a07138a-2a7d-4c3b-a285-b5af964e4132&pd_rd_w=9OIFj&pd_rd_wg=kFVO6&pf_rd_p=b0a90583-d22c-4c32-806b-f09cd6946e61&pf_rd_r=H8492DA2VS978WRJF26K&qid=1560882742&s=gateway&sprefix=any+functioning%2Caps%2C567

I have one on my car & my motorcycle.

Jerry Baumchen

Isn't that the same kind of thing that the left railed against with Hillary?

"Anyone But Hillary"

That's exactly what was touted to be so unfair and reckless a statement!

 

I'm glad you can admit the shoe fits on the other foot.

Well done - You are just like a Trumpster now.  How's it feel?

[wmw999 2,121]

I hate to say it, because I, too, think Trump is bad enough to vote for almost anyone else, but touché. 

Wendy P. 

[ryoder 1,384]

https://twitter.com/hashtag/AnybodyButTrump2020

[JerryBaumchen 1,048]

38 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

You are just like a Trumpster now.  

Hi t,

Your saying it does not make it true.  As is the case with so many of your 'statements.'

Jerry Baumchen

[turtlespeed 212]

On 6/18/2019 at 4:36 PM, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi t,

Your saying it does not make it true.  As is the case with so many of your 'statements.'

Jerry Baumchen

Wendy understood it.

Its pretty asinine and hypocritical to condemn others for believing in voting for Anyone - but Trump.

[jclalor 12]

5 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

Wendy understood it.

Its pretty asinine and hypocritical to condemn others for believing in voting for Anyone - but Trump.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

[Rick 67]

10 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

Wendy understood it.

Its pretty asinine and hypocritical to condemn others for believing in voting for Anyone - but Trump.

but now the sky REALLY is falling 

not like when it was anyone but Hillary that was a false alarm

[SkyDekker 1,122]

12 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

Wendy understood it.

Its pretty asinine and hypocritical to condemn others for believing in voting for Anyone - but Trump.

It is pretty asinine and hypocritical to claim you really believe in people following the law and then vote for Trump.

[turtlespeed 212]

17 hours ago, jclalor said:

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Thank you for proving my point.

[DJL 232]

I don't think anyone literally has a "Anyone but Trump" mantra, it's just a fun thing to say.  Considering it was an "Anyone but Hillary" mantra that got us Trump in the first place, the failures of that mindset are very apparent.

[Rick 67]

2 hours ago, DJL said:

I don't think anyone literally has a "Anyone but Trump" mantra, it's just a fun thing to say.  Considering it was an "Anyone but Hillary" mantra that got us Trump in the first place, the failures of that mindset are very apparent.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/18/orlando-sentinel-2020-endorsement-donald-trump-1367031

the first sentence in this article 

[DJL 232]

9 minutes ago, Rick said:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/18/orlando-sentinel-2020-endorsement-donald-trump-1367031

the first sentence in this article 

Yes, I understand that the Orlando Sentinel doesn't want Trump.  I assure you that they'll settle on another candidate before voting day.

[turtlespeed 212]

9 hours ago, DJL said:

I don't think anyone literally has a "Anyone but Trump" mantra, it's just a fun thing to say.  Considering it was an "Anyone but Hillary" mantra that got us Trump in the first place, the failures of that mindset are very apparent.

Just because they may be apparent to you and I, doesn't mean that they are apparent to most people.

I guarantee that there there will be millions of Trump haters out there saying ANYONE BUT TRUMP - 

You will see it on bumper stickers. You will see it on political posters.  You will hear it on NPR.

 

I really think you are truly naive, if you actually believe that people won't truly believe the mantra, and make it their own.

 

[JerryBaumchen 1,048]

On 6/18/2019 at 11:38 AM, JerryBaumchen said:

 

Hi folks,

And another take on this subject:

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-48744113

2020 is going to be interesting.

Jerry Baumchen

[Rick 67]

"We cannot provide a space that is inclusive of all and also allow support for open white supremacy." 

well almost all    

I know what they are getting at but that just struck me as funny

[turtlespeed 212]

On 6/24/2019 at 2:40 PM, Rick said:

"We cannot provide a space that is inclusive of all and also allow support for open white supremacy." 

well almost all    

I know what they are getting at but that just struck me as funny

The only way that works is if you are intolerant of different views.

I wonder if they would make the same condemnation about a satanic cult, vs Catholicism.

[Rick 67]

26 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

The only way that works is if you are intolerant of different views.

I wonder if they would make the same condemnation about a satanic cult, vs Catholicism.

well that's not very inclusive of all then is it

[turtlespeed 212]

3 minutes ago, Rick said:

well that's not very inclusive of all then is it

Absolutely - 

Inclusive of "all that they approve of."

by . . . you know - the party of tolerance.

"Inclusion and protection for ALL . . . except those guys - we don't like them . . . anymore . . . I mean - they used to be ok . . . but not anymore - they must be excluded now." They have lost their right to be part of all.

Edited June 26, 2019 by turtlespeed

[Skwrl 56]

4 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

Absolutely - 

Inclusive of "all that they approve of."

by . . . you know - the party of tolerance.

"Inclusion and protection for ALL . . . except those guys - we don't like them . . . anymore . . . I mean - they used to be ok . . . but not anymore - they must be excluded now." They have lost their right to be part of all.

Oh, the old "hurr durr, people who claim to be tolerant ain't tolerant to Nazis, so they ain't tolerant!' line.    

You should read up on Karl Popper's "Paradox of Tolerance".  It's actually not that complicated - they even made it in cartoon form.

[billvon 2,400]

19 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

Absolutely - 

Inclusive of "all that they approve of."

by . . . you know - the party of tolerance.

"Inclusion and protection for ALL . . . except those guys - we don't like them . . . anymore . . . I mean - they used to be ok . . . but not anymore - they must be excluded now." They have lost their right to be part of all.

I know!  If you're not tolerant of Nazis, white supremacists and rapists - indeed, of any intolerance at all - you're not tolerant, period!  I am sure you're not so closed minded.

[SkyDekker 1,122]

25 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

Absolutely - 

Inclusive of "all that they approve of."

by . . . you know - the party of tolerance.

"Inclusion and protection for ALL . . . except those guys - we don't like them . . . anymore . . . I mean - they used to be ok . . . but not anymore - they must be excluded now." They have lost their right to be part of all.

That is such an incredibly stupid argument.

It has already been explained to you in cartoon format. If that doesn't help, nothing I am going to type on the subject will help.

[DJL 232]

On 6/21/2019 at 8:17 PM, turtlespeed said:

I really think you are truly naive, if you actually believe that people won't truly believe the mantra, and make it their own.

Ok, there are people out there who would vote for a celery stalk before Trump.  I apologize for so naively and imperfectly encapsulating the spectrum of human choices.

[turtlespeed 212]

10 hours ago, SkyDekker said:

That is such an incredibly stupid argument.

It has already been explained to you in cartoon format. If that doesn't help, nothing I am going to type on the subject will help.

Uh huh - 

How is it stupid.  Oh - and I don't watch cartoons - I'll leave all that nonsense to you and yours.

Where is your limit?  Where do you draw the line?  If you are intolerant of neo nizis, are you hypocritical if you ARE tolerant of a man hating feminist?  If so - what is the logic you use to justify your hypocrisy?

Would you be intolerant of a Satanic cult member?

Where is your limit to tolerance?  Where is the line - and why is there a line?

[kallend 1,623]

11 hours ago, DJL said:

Ok, there are people out there who would vote for a celery stalk before Trump.  I apologize for so naively and imperfectly encapsulating the spectrum of human choices.

A celery stalk wouldn't be capable of as much damage as Trump.