Progressivism kills Eric Garner

[brenthutch 383]

The progressive "war on tobacco" created the black market demand that Eric Gardner was fulfilling when he died at the hands of police who where enforcing the progressive agenda. Not much has changed since Woodrow Wilson screened "Birth of a Nation" in the White House.

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Because, you know, nobody ever tried to get around the law and sell goods tax free before "progressives" started fighting a "war on tobacco."

Riiight.

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[billvon 2,400]

>The progressive "war on tobacco" created the black market demand that Eric
>Gardner was fulfilling when he died at the hands of police who where enforcing the
>progressive agenda.

Wow. By that rationale, imagine how many women and doctors conservatives have killed due to their anti-abortion and anti-vaccine agendas. George Tiller comes to mind.

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billvon

>The progressive "war on tobacco" created the black market demand that Eric
>Gardner was fulfilling when he died at the hands of police who where enforcing the
>progressive agenda.

Wow. By that rationale, imagine how many women and doctors conservatives have killed due to their anti-abortion and anti-vaccine agendas. George Tiller comes to mind.

Tiller killed hundreds
Anti vaccine progressives killed hundreds

[brenthutch 383]

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Because, you know, nobody ever tried to get around the law and sell goods tax free before "progressives" started fighting a "war on tobacco."

Riiight.

Thank you for reinforcing my point.

[billvon 2,400]

>Tiller killed hundreds

And cigarettes kill thousands.

So far we have conservatism murdering David Gunn, John Britton, James Barrett, Shannon Lowney, Lee Ann Nichols, Robert Sanderson, Barnett Slepian and George Tiller. Sounds like conservatism is a much bigger problem.

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brenthutch

***Because, you know, nobody ever tried to get around the law and sell goods tax free before "progressives" started fighting a "war on tobacco."
Riiight.

Thank you for reinforcing my point.

I'm not sure what point you think you're making then.

Black markets have ALWAYS existed in every country and in every culture around the world. Some times it's a big crime, some times it's barely worth a glance.

What Eric Garner was doing, selling single cigarettes, was about as minor a crime as it gets. Maybe even below jaywalking.

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[Kingsixx 0]

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What Eric Garner was doing, selling single cigarettes, was about as minor a crime as it gets. Maybe even below jaywalking.

It's pretty minor, you're right. Unless you're the poor bodega (grocery store) owner who is losing business due to the fact that instead of customers getting the smokes from you, they're buying them from the guy in front of your store who is illegally selling them.

Minor unless you are the residents of that neighborhood who have to be exposed with the criminal element that selling untaxed cigarettes attracts to a neighborhood.

Selling "loosies" isn't a big deal until it affects YOU and your livelihood. Selling loosies isn't a big deal, pretty minor but resisting arrest is not. And as we've seen over the last few months, it has grave consequences.

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Thank god they've done away with matchstick girls. Imagine the impact to the economy if they ran rampant in the streets.

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It's pretty minor, you're right. Unless you're the poor bodega (grocery store) owner who is losing business due to the fact that instead of customers getting the smokes from you, they're buying them from the guy in front of your store who is illegally selling them.

Minor unless you are the residents of that neighborhood who have to be exposed with the criminal element that selling untaxed cigarettes attracts to a neighborhood.

Selling "loosies" isn't a big deal until it affects YOU and your livelihood. Selling loosies isn't a big deal, pretty minor but resisting arrest is not. And as we've seen over the last few months, it has grave consequences.

So you're for government regulation that stifles free enterprise?

[brenthutch 383]

Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Mussolini, Pol Pot........all progressives.

[Stumpy 256]

Wow - you Godwin'd your own thread - and in less than a page. Awesome.

Never try to eat more than you can lift

[brenthutch 383]

Just illustrating how ridiculous Bill's point is.

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brenthutch

Just illustrating how ridiculous Bill's point is.

Really? you seem pretty confused.

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once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress.

Never try to eat more than you can lift

[brenthutch 383]

Stumpy

***Just illustrating how ridiculous Bill's point is.

Really? you seem pretty confused.

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once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress.

Stalin, Mao, *****, Mussolini, Pol Pot........all progressives.
Is that better?

[rushmc 18]

You plucked a nerve with this one !

In any event, a money hungry govenment ($7 per pack tax ) created the market

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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brenthutch

Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Mussolini, Pol Pot........all progressives.

Don't forget GW Bush.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Progressivism kills Eric Garner

Brilliant.

You, too, should run for Congress.

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Let this be a lesson -

If you in any way, no matter how minor, get in the way of 'revenue' for the big brother

expect to get thrown down, crushed, and killed by their stormtroopers

(apparently this is the lesson, though it's a poignant one that I agree with (though it's a lot like blaming the ancient land bridge for the fall of the Aztecs)......., I'd think a better lesson is to train cops to try and just stay away from the throat area during a takedown, nothing good can come from that. And when a criminal just assumes they can call 'time out' and just walk away, sometimes the job does require a cop to restrain him. there's another lesson - train better ways to restrain a criminal, especially when you have backup and can use other options.....oh oh oh, another one, once you have the criminal restrained, and he's fat and out of shape and making sounds that might indicate heart attacked or injury call the medics right way.....I'm sure there's more)

this one is NOT the same as the punk in Missouri

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brenthutch

The progressive "war on tobacco" created the black market demand that Eric Gardner was fulfilling when he died at the hands of police who where enforcing the progressive agenda. Not much has changed since Woodrow Wilson screened "Birth of a Nation" in the White House.

Yet, the answer to the war on drugs is supposedly legalizing them.

Tobacco is legal. So, guess that isn't the answer either.

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Can anyone offer a rational explanation for why the EU and Japan, with combined populations exceeding that of the US, have so few cases of cops killing civilians? And remember that (1) many EU countries have large minority populations too, and (2) are far more "progressive" than the US, so those cannot be the explanation.

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[billvon 2,400]

>Just illustrating how ridiculous Bill's point is.

Which was to illustrate how ridiculous your point is.

Congratulations, you've demonstrated your original post is ridiculous. Now moving on . . . Did you hear Obama killed some Marines?

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billvon

>. . . Did you hear Obama killed some Marines?

using executive action with his bare hands - mission accomplished he did not have sex with that girl

but it's ok - Clinton did it before Bush did it

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[brenthutch 383]

Agreed

[billvon 2,400]

>> Did you hear Obama killed some Marines?

>using executive action with his bare hands

Basically yes! I mean, he just signed a budget bill into law that reduces the total number of F-35's built. But that's exactly the same as killing Marines with your bare hands.