richravizza 25
For yrs. I have provided my family health ins. being self employed.
cost $550
In Jan. I lost my Plan.I know it was a shit plan,
It took three months,thru Covered Cal.I finally got a plan, so I thought, Effective 4/1/2014, but
I have been unble to get the policy.
because I didnt make the $85.00 payment.
No bill, notification or invoice.
I am Uninsured, untill October when enrollment is open.
Covered Cal. said I was free to get the policy on the open market?
cost $850 without my child.
Are WE One of the Sign UPs?
Are WE the Ones that Lost our Plan, doc...?
Are We Now, three of the Unisured?
Yes, to all the above,
and for my effort and Compliance for the Law...???
Nothing, UNINSURED,
cost $550
In Jan. I lost my Plan.I know it was a shit plan,
It took three months,thru Covered Cal.I finally got a plan, so I thought, Effective 4/1/2014, but
I have been unble to get the policy.
because I didnt make the $85.00 payment.
No bill, notification or invoice.
I am Uninsured, untill October when enrollment is open.
Covered Cal. said I was free to get the policy on the open market?
cost $850 without my child.
Are WE One of the Sign UPs?
Are WE the Ones that Lost our Plan, doc...?
Are We Now, three of the Unisured?
Yes, to all the above,
and for my effort and Compliance for the Law...???
Nothing, UNINSURED,
kallend 1,672
So you failed to pay and somehow it's someone else's fault that you aren't covered.
Got it.
Got it.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
GeorgiaDon 340
Did you make 3 (or more) jumps in those 3 months?QuoteIt took three months,thru Covered Cal.I finally got a plan, so I thought, Effective 4/1/2014, but
I have been unble to get the policy.
because I didnt make the $85.00 payment.
Priorities matter. So do deadlines. Hope you can work it out, or nothing bad happens to you or your family before October.
Don
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Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)
Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)
airdvr 200
GeorgiaDonDid you make 3 (or more) jumps in those 3 months?QuoteIt took three months,thru Covered Cal.I finally got a plan, so I thought, Effective 4/1/2014, but
I have been unble to get the policy.
because I didnt make the $85.00 payment.
Priorities matter. So do deadlines. Hope you can work it out, or nothing bad happens to you or your family before October.
Don
If you weren't so quick to jump on him and read further you'd see he left out a zero.
QuoteCovered Cal. said I was free to get the policy on the open market?
cost $850 without my child.
You guys are like hungry shark just waiting to pounce on the poor and unsuspecting.
Please don't dent the planet.
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airdvr 200
kallendSo you failed to pay and somehow it's someone else's fault that you aren't covered.
Got it.
Wow...Mr. Personal Responsibility thinks people should pay for what they get...except those who go to the ER.
Please don't dent the planet.
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kallend 1,672
airdvr***So you failed to pay and somehow it's someone else's fault that you aren't covered.
Got it.
Wow...Mr. Personal Responsibility thinks people should pay for what they get...except those who go to the ER.
I don't know what you are smoking, but I've never posted anything to suggest I've been in favor of moochers who offload their medical expenses on the hospital or taxpayer. People like Ms. Mary Brown, the GOP's poster child in their suit against the ACA.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
GeorgiaDon 340
You might be right he left out a zero, but that's not immediately obvious to me. If he signed up through an ACA affiliated plan he may well have been eligible for a subsidy, as opposed to paying full freight because he missed the deadline.QuoteIf you weren't so quick to jump on him and read further you'd see he left out a zero.
Don
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Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)
Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)
kallend 1,672
airdvr***
Did you make 3 (or more) jumps in those 3 months?QuoteIt took three months,thru Covered Cal.I finally got a plan, so I thought, Effective 4/1/2014, but
I have been unble to get the policy.
because I didnt make the $85.00 payment.
Priorities matter. So do deadlines. Hope you can work it out, or nothing bad happens to you or your family before October.
Don
If you weren't so quick to jump on him and read further you'd see he left out a zero.
Well, clearly he is prone to make mistakes in his life (yet wants to blame others).
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
Bolas 5
John:
* Do you feel that richravizza and his family were included in that 7 million statistic?
* if yes, do you feel they should have been?
* Do you feel that richravizza and his family were included in that 7 million statistic?
* if yes, do you feel they should have been?
Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.
kallend 1,672
BolasJohn:
* Do you feel that richravizza and his family were included in that 7 million statistic?
* if yes, do you feel they should have been?
Apparently it's > 8 Million.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
airdvr 200
GeorgiaDonYou might be right he left out a zero, but that's not immediately obvious to me. If he signed up through an ACA affiliated plan he may well have been eligible for a subsidy, as opposed to paying full freight because he missed the deadline.QuoteIf you weren't so quick to jump on him and read further you'd see he left out a zero.
Don
When do you think those subsidies happen? You think you'll get a check from your uncle every month?
Please don't dent the planet.
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GeorgiaDon 340
airdvr***
You might be right he left out a zero, but that's not immediately obvious to me. If he signed up through an ACA affiliated plan he may well have been eligible for a subsidy, as opposed to paying full freight because he missed the deadline.QuoteIf you weren't so quick to jump on him and read further you'd see he left out a zero.
Don
When do you think those subsidies happen? You think you'll get a check from your uncle every month?My understanding is that subsidized people pay a reduced premium, and the government pays the balance. Just as I pay part of my insurance premium, and my employer pays the rest. I don't have to pay the entire amount, and then wait to be reimbursed for my employer's share.
Of course, I have no personal experience with ACA subsidies. If you know the system works differently from what I described, why don't you enlighten us?
Don
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Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)
Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)
Apparently you are avoiding the question...of course I'm still wondering if you take steps to minimize your tax bill and that question is like four or five years unanswered now.
You are only as strong as the prey you devour
airdvr 200
QuoteOf course, I have no personal experience with ACA subsidies. If you know the system works differently from what I described, why don't you enlighten us?
It's in the form of a tax credit. So, you pay your affordable premiums and when you file your taxes you get some of the money back. Not a very workable solution for many who can't afford to pay the premiums.
Please don't dent the planet.
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GeorgiaDon 340
I don't know where you got your info from, but it seems most people who qualify for a subsidy will have a choice to have the credit applied directly to the premium (so they pay less each month), or to pay the full premium and receive a tax credit when they file. I obviously have no way of knowing about your particular situation.QuoteIt's in the form of a tax credit. So, you pay your affordable premiums and when you file your taxes you get some of the money back. Not a very workable solution for many who can't afford to pay the premiums.
From here:
"If you qualify for Advance Premium Tax Credits, you use them immediately to lower your monthly premium expense. You pick how much advance tax credits that will apply each month towards your premium payment up to a maximum amount. If you choose an amount that is less than your total Advance Premium Tax Credit, you get the difference when you file your income taxes as a tax refund. But, if the total of your advance premium payments is greater than the amount of your credit, you must pay it back with your tax filing.
In general, you may be eligible for the credit if you meet all of the following:
buy health insurance through the Marketplace;
are ineligible for coverage through an employer or government plan;
are within certain income limits;
file a joint return, if married; and
cannot be claimed as a dependent by another person.
If you are eligible for the credit, you can choose to:
Get It Now: have some or all of the estimated credit paid in advance directly to your insurance company to lower what you pay out-of-pocket for your monthly premiums during 2014; or
Get It Later: wait to get all of the credit when you file your 2014 tax return in 2015."
Don
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Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)
Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)
mpohl 1
I am jumping into this thread cold-turkey.
But LR. What is more important to a civilized society?
Maintaing the highest profits possible for companies (which are now people, per USSC) or providing adequate health-care for its citizens regardless of personal circumstances.
Much of the world has figured it out already. Why does the US insist on being exceptionally uncivilized and abducting responsibility to its own citizenry?
But LR. What is more important to a civilized society?
Maintaing the highest profits possible for companies (which are now people, per USSC) or providing adequate health-care for its citizens regardless of personal circumstances.
Much of the world has figured it out already. Why does the US insist on being exceptionally uncivilized and abducting responsibility to its own citizenry?
lawrocketOh, yes. This is awesome. Amazing.
The thought it would cost $41 billion in new spending this year. It's only going to be $35 billion in new spending from tax dollars. They just saved $5 billion. Isn't that great!
From the article: "officials anticipate an overall price tag of $1,383 billion between 2015 and 2024, $104 billion less than previous projections."
Translation: "average new spending from tax dollars will be $138.3 billion per year, which is 400% more than we are spending now. Over the decade, that is $1.383 trillion of new spending from taxes."
This is called "lowering costs." Spending $1.383 trillion over the next decade is called lowering costs.
Here's how government cost cutting works. "4,489 Americans were killed in Iraq. Projections were that over 8,000 Americans would die there. Thank goodness that Bush and Cheney were able to cut costs. They saved over 3,500 lives! They lowered costs."
Correct, Jeanee - "Mission Accomplished."
airdvr 200
GeorgiaDonI don't know where you got your info from, but it seems most people who qualify for a subsidy will have a choice to have the credit applied directly to the premium (so they pay less each month), or to pay the full premium and receive a tax credit when they file. I obviously have no way of knowing about your particular situation.QuoteIt's in the form of a tax credit. So, you pay your affordable premiums and when you file your taxes you get some of the money back. Not a very workable solution for many who can't afford to pay the premiums.
From here:
"If you qualify for Advance Premium Tax Credits, you use them immediately to lower your monthly premium expense. You pick how much advance tax credits that will apply each month towards your premium payment up to a maximum amount. If you choose an amount that is less than your total Advance Premium Tax Credit, you get the difference when you file your income taxes as a tax refund. But, if the total of your advance premium payments is greater than the amount of your credit, you must pay it back with your tax filing.
In general, you may be eligible for the credit if you meet all of the following:
buy health insurance through the Marketplace;
are ineligible for coverage through an employer or government plan;
are within certain income limits;
file a joint return, if married; and
cannot be claimed as a dependent by another person.
If you are eligible for the credit, you can choose to:
Get It Now: have some or all of the estimated credit paid in advance directly to your insurance company to lower what you pay out-of-pocket for your monthly premiums during 2014; or
Get It Later: wait to get all of the credit when you file your 2014 tax return in 2015."
Don
As with anything that has to do with the government its not that simple or easy.
http://www.cbpp.org/files/QA-on-Premium-Credits.pdf
9 pages later and I'm still not sure how it works.
Please don't dent the planet.
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GeorgiaDon 340
Well, all I can say is I hope it all works out for you. Seriously.
Don
Don
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Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)
Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)
Think that has anything to do with the new taxes that are meant to pay for this? Oh, yes, it is revenue increases. $650 billion or so from direct taxes. Another $150 billion from Immigration reform. And - here's the kicker - $700 billion from withdrawing from Afghanistan. And lowering spending by reducing Medicare reimbursement rates.
Which is where the "deficits" will be cut. Revenue and the end of Afghanistan. Social security, Medicare/Medicaid/ACA and interest on debt will more than eat up those savings right quickly.
And - the CBO has changed. Seems to me that the CBO most recently that the ACA would lower deficits (because it's taxing came in before it's spending) early but increase the deficits by the end of this decade.
Still, there's no way the CBO can know any of this right now. They need a few years of data to have any idea how this will bear out. But we know that the government will either: (1) put on price caps (which they've already done); (2) limit access (ration); (3) expand the practice of nursing/pa/psychology/chiropractic to doing physician work and pay them less.
Lowering reimbursement to providers does not lower the cost - just the price. Rationing does not lower the cost. Expanding lesser practices lowers cost, but comes at the price of quality.
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