shropshire 0 #76 September 19, 2013 RonD1120 ***Why in the world would you even worry about these earthly matters when an eternity of heavanly bliss awaits you? The one thing I have always admired about the JW's is that they don't give a crap about current events. If I had been given the depth of your faith, I would be impatiently tapping my foot and looking at my watch. But you seem to have been angry about these for a while .. so the Sun has gone down many timesSome things just piss me off. By expressing my anger I do not sin. Ephesians 4:26 “Be angry, and do not sin”: do not let the sun go down on your wrath, (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #77 September 19, 2013 shropshire ******Why in the world would you even worry about these earthly matters when an eternity of heavanly bliss awaits you? The one thing I have always admired about the JW's is that they don't give a crap about current events. If I had been given the depth of your faith, I would be impatiently tapping my foot and looking at my watch. But you seem to have been angry about these for a while .. so the Sun has gone down many timesSome things just piss me off. By expressing my anger I do not sin. Ephesians 4:26 “Be angry, and do not sin”: do not let the sun go down on your wrath, True, I have to deal with sin daily. 1 Corinthians 15:57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #78 September 19, 2013 RonD1120BHO's two term election, 9-11 and the Jonestown Massacre are events of world tragedy that I can never erase from my mind. I had the chance to get to know and work with Steve Jones, the only biological child of Jim Jones, if you find Jonestown interesting, try "The Raven" this book was recommended to me by Steve. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven_(book) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #79 September 19, 2013 RonD1120 True, I have to deal with sin daily. You've got your work cut out around these Interweb parts then (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #80 September 19, 2013 jclalor***BHO's two term election, 9-11 and the Jonestown Massacre are events of world tragedy that I can never erase from my mind. I had the chance to get to know and work with Steve Jones, the only biological child of Jim Jones, if you find Jonestown interesting, try "The Raven" this book was recommended to me by Steve. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven_(book) Thanks for the reference. I've watched some lengthy documentaries on Jones via the History Channel.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #81 September 19, 2013 shropshire *** True, I have to deal with sin daily. You've got your work cut out around these Interweb parts then True again, I'm still working off some issues left from working in the liberal social services. The north GA mountain environment is helping, greatly.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibx 2 #82 September 19, 2013 QuoteEphesians 4:26 “Be angry, and do not sin”: do not let the sun go down on your wrath, For wrath killeth the foolish man... - Job 5:2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #83 September 19, 2013 ibx Quote Ephesians 4:26 “Be angry, and do not sin”: do not let the sun go down on your wrath, For wrath killeth the foolish man... - Job 5:2 Quote Here’s to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The trouble-makers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently…they change things. They push the human race forward. .... Job .... Steve (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #84 September 19, 2013 Yes, great person. One I know left wingers admire. http://www.uproxx.com/technology/2012/01/ny-times-investigation-confirms-that-apples-factories-in-china-are-basically-slave-labor-camps/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #85 September 19, 2013 Now it's his fault of the way foreign labor markets operate. (we could really used the bashing your head on the wall emoticon here) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibx 2 #86 September 19, 2013 QuoteYes, great person. One I know left wingers admire. http://www.uproxx.com/...y-slave-labor-camps/ Suddenly capitalism is a bad thing... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #87 September 19, 2013 I guess it is in your world as long as we just sorta overlook the Slave Labor thing. Ah, the necessary evil required so we can all enjoy texting on our IPhones. Too bad you weren't born 200 years ago. Then you could have owned some negroes to pick cotton for you. All in the name of Capitalism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibx 2 #88 September 19, 2013 QuoteI guess it is in your world as long as we just sorta overlook the Slave Labor thing. Ah, the necessary evil required so we can all enjoy texting on our IPhones. Too bad you weren't born 200 years ago. Then you could have owned some negroes to pick cotton for you. All in the name of Capitalism. The Irony is, that this is coming from you, who wants a small government and deregulation. The very effects of this is clearly demonstrated by your article. How you manage to make the mental gymnastics to on one hand call for small government and deregulation on the other hand criticizing the very outcome of those policies will forever remain your secret. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #89 September 19, 2013 Right, because smaller government and deregulation lead to slave labor and big government with lots of regulation leads to more freedom. I'd recommend a little education about China. Maybe China 101 to start with. Because we all know that China has a small government, little regulations and freedom is rampant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #90 September 19, 2013 Gravitymaster Right, because smaller government and deregulation lead to slave labor and big government with lots of regulation leads to more freedom. I'd recommend a little education about China. Maybe China 101 to start with. Because we all know that China has a small government, little regulations and freedom is rampant. ehzacary!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibx 2 #91 September 19, 2013 QuoteRight, because smaller government and deregulation lead to slave labor and big government with lots of regulation leads to more freedom. CrazyCrazy I'd recommend a little education about China. Maybe China 101 to start with. Because we all know that China has a small government, little regulations and freedom is rampant. Once again Dunning-Krueger rears it's ugly head. You do realize that the current labor situation is due to government mandated nearly unbridled capitalism? Loose labor laws are hardly enforced by a corrupt government where nepotism is rampant. You are right that average citizen does not enjoy "freedom" as you classically describe it. Yet large corporations, sometimes state owned or co-owned enjoy immense freedom at the expense of it's workers... Sorry you failed China 101. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #92 September 19, 2013 ibxQuoteRight, because smaller government and deregulation lead to slave labor and big government with lots of regulation leads to more freedom. CrazyCrazy I'd recommend a little education about China. Maybe China 101 to start with. Because we all know that China has a small government, little regulations and freedom is rampant. Once again Dunning-Krueger rears it's ugly head. You do realize that the current labor situation is due to government mandated nearly unbridled capitalism? Loose labor laws are hardly enforced by a corrupt government where nepotism is rampant. You are right that average citizen does not enjoy "freedom" as you classically describe it. Yet large corporations, sometimes state owned or co-owned enjoy immense freedom at the expense of it's workers... Sorry you failed China 101. Actually - it looks like you proved his point for him.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #93 September 19, 2013 turtlespeed***QuoteRight, because smaller government and deregulation lead to slave labor and big government with lots of regulation leads to more freedom. CrazyCrazy I'd recommend a little education about China. Maybe China 101 to start with. Because we all know that China has a small government, little regulations and freedom is rampant. Once again Dunning-Krueger rears it's ugly head. You do realize that the current labor situation is due to government mandated nearly unbridled capitalism? Loose labor laws are hardly enforced by a corrupt government where nepotism is rampant. You are right that average citizen does not enjoy "freedom" as you classically describe it. Yet large corporations, sometimes state owned or co-owned enjoy immense freedom at the expense of it's workers... Sorry you failed China 101. Actually - it looks like you proved his point for him. He has but Dunning Krueger will not allow him to see it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #94 September 19, 2013 wmw999Yes, in fact, people who disagree with you do vote. It's not scary. What's scary to me are the single-issue voters who don't give a shit about anything as long as a person has the right letter or specific endorsement. This is a far more complex country than can be handled with a simplistic set of answers. Wendy P. There are a few issues that are dealbreakers. An unacceptable standpoint on slavery, genocide, misogyny or other matters may outweigh any glowing qualifications one might otherwise have. It would be nice if one was limited to selecting which candidate was truly the least mediocre choice, but the group to which each party must pander often loads the dice in advance. The set of particulars dear to the hearts of dunderheads on the 'right' and 'left' are often requisite for being on the ballot, and often override the more negotiable issues. Without getting specific, it then becomes a matter of "if you have the endorsement of XXXXX, there must be something severely wrong with you, and I will thus vote for your opponent." All else being equal, comparing one group to the other is on a par with deciding whether canine or feline feces are 'preferable.' The bottom line is that both are particularly vile shit. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,122 #95 September 19, 2013 Yeah, I can see that. Someone who was pro-slavery (as an example) would be very unlikely to get my vote Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #96 September 19, 2013 Hi winsor, QuoteThere are a few issues that are dealbreakers. We all have our own. For me; I never vote for a pro-life candidate. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #97 September 19, 2013 >BHO's two term election, 9-11 and the Jonestown Massacre are events of world >tragedy that I can never erase from my mind. Don't forget Hitler. It's not a good SC rant without Hitler. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,255 #98 September 19, 2013 rushmc***QuoteThe whole damned government wanted to go to war with Iraq The whole government wanted to go to war because they were presented with faulty intelligence. They didn't all just get out of bed one day and say, "Let's go to war!" Now its faulty intel That is a bit removed from the manipulated intel the whole world had this same faulty intel and they had it for decades Yep, the whole world had faulty intel. In the UK, we had the infamous "45 minute dossier" - an utterly spurious document produced by MI6, "sexed up" by the PM's chief spin-doctor, ascribed to anonymous direct sources, turned out to actually be plagiarised from a university student's thesis. And no, unfortunately I'm not joking. The intelligence services, on the whole, are not stupid. Why would they have produced such an amateurish piece of work if they had not been under intense pressure to do so? By not distinguishing between the Administration - the people asking for the intelligence - and Congress, the people being presented with (some of) the intelligence you're being naive. Just the difference between the question "does Iraq have WMDs" and "find me Iraq's WMDs!" could lead you down significantly different roads.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linebckr83 3 #99 September 19, 2013 JerryBaumchenHi winsor, QuoteThere are a few issues that are dealbreakers. We all have our own. For me; I never vote for a pro-life candidate. JerryBaumchen You feel so strongly for abortion that it determines your entire vote? I know what people will say, there are voters out there who only vote pro-life. True, but that is usually a deeply rooted religious decision, and religion has a huge impact for some. I've never heard of someone who votes strictly so that women can abort their babies."Are you coming to the party? Oh I'm coming, but I won't be there!" Flying Hellfish #828 Dudist #52 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #100 September 19, 2013 billvon>BHO's two term election, 9-11 and the Jonestown Massacre are events of world >tragedy that I can never erase from my mind. Don't forget Hitler. It's not a good SC rant without Hitler. You know, Hitler doesn't bother me. By the time I became aware of him he was dead. My uncles and the rest of my family were celebrating victory. Now I have to think about what the BHO administration is going to do to Israel and how they are going to weaken them and America by sucking up to the Muslim Brotherhood. But, what is more frightening is that he was able to get elected, twice. The fact that the voters chose an unknown socialist with no credentials over someone with proven experience is our shame.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites