Skyrad 0 #1 May 3, 2013 I found this truly shocking, more people in the USA kill themselves than are killed in road deaths! http://news.sky.com/story/1086464/suicide-rate-surpasses-road-deaths-in-us Why?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,384 #2 May 3, 2013 QuoteI found this truly shocking, more people in the USA kill themselves than are killed in road deaths! http://news.sky.com/story/1086464/suicide-rate-surpasses-road-deaths-in-us Why? Because highway fatality rates have been declining for decades? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:U.s._traffic_deaths_as_fraction_of_total_popualtion_1900-2010.png"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #3 May 3, 2013 http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/study-suicide-rate-for-middle-aged-americans-up-28-percent-over-decade-40-pct-for-whites/2013/05/02/cb339740-b341-11e2-9fb1-62de9581c946_story.html QuoteSuicide rate up sharply for middle-aged Americans The suicide rate among middle-aged Americans climbed a startling 28 percent in a decade, a period that included the recession and the mortgage crisis, the government reported Thursday. The trend was most pronounced among white men and women in that age group. Their suicide rate jumped 40 percent between 1999 and 2010. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwieder 0 #4 May 3, 2013 I attribute most of the increase to the sagging economy. Being broke after having lived a fairly rich & prosporous life is more than a lot of people can bear. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. The Dow broke 15K today, but I didn't make any money off it, ya'll? -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #5 May 3, 2013 QuoteI found this truly shocking, more people in the USA kill themselves than are killed in road deaths! http://news.sky.com/story/1086464/suicide-rate-surpasses-road-deaths-in-us Why? DUI laws and improving attitudes are no doubt a factor. While over 20k deaths hardly calls for a celebration, the number has been trending down in spite of the continuing increase in the driving population. I'm sure all the safety equipment has contributed as well, at least in terms of fatalities, as opposed to accidents. Meanwhile, suicide rates, even if constant, mean more net deaths as the population increased. And as the story notes, the rate did not stay constant, but rose across the board and most remarkably for white middle aged people. The uncertainty of our times has to be a factor...and I think the extensive wars can't be ignored either. OTOH, picking 1999 instead of 2000 seems a bit fishy...like perhaps cherry picking. It was the last year of the grand party of the 90s boom. People were all working, getting paid well, and even the national picture (deficit) was just dandy. I wonder if 1999 represented a low point for suicides over the past couple decades. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,122 #6 May 3, 2013 Here is another article from late last year about the suicide rate. And here is the article in The Lancet that probably started the whole thing. Based on the graph in there, 1999 was not particularly low, it was in fact higher than 2000. Still not sure why they picked 1999, but it doesn't look as though it were cherry-picking. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deltron80 0 #7 May 3, 2013 Who gives a shit? It's mostly men killing themselves after all. If it were women, I might give a shit. And it's not just the US. Suicide is now the #1 cause of death for young men in the UK. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #8 May 3, 2013 QuoteWho gives a shit? It's mostly men killing themselves after all. If it were women, I might give a shit. I am unable to find the data at this point, but I believe that in terms of suicide *attempts*, women are much more likely. But their preferred methods (poisoning in particular) are much less likely to end in death than shooting (preferred by men). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 126 #9 May 3, 2013 who would watt to kill themselves? I thought this was the greatest country in the world? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #10 May 3, 2013 Quotewho would watt to kill themselves? a killa watt?-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #11 May 3, 2013 Quote Quote who would watt to kill themselves? a killa watt? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #12 May 3, 2013 QuoteI found this truly shocking, more people in the USA kill themselves than are killed in road deaths! http://news.sky.com/story/1086464/suicide-rate-surpasses-road-deaths-in-us Why? BHO is president. People have lost their will to hang in there.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #13 May 3, 2013 QuoteQuoteI found this truly shocking, more people in the USA kill themselves than are killed in road deaths! http://news.sky.com/story/1086464/suicide-rate-surpasses-road-deaths-in-us Why? BHO is president. People have lost their will to hang in there. This is why we need guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #14 May 3, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteI found this truly shocking, more people in the USA kill themselves than are killed in road deaths! http://news.sky.com/story/1086464/suicide-rate-surpasses-road-deaths-in-us Why? BHO is president. People have lost their will to hang in there. This is why we need guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwieder 0 #15 May 4, 2013 QuoteBHO is president. People have lost their will to hang in there. +1-Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #16 May 4, 2013 QuoteQuoteI found this truly shocking, more people in the USA kill themselves than are killed in road deaths! http://news.sky.com/story/1086464/suicide-rate-surpasses-road-deaths-in-us Why? BHO is president. People have lost their will to hang in there. Seriously? You think peoplr are killing themselve because BHO is the POTUS? Or are you just trying to turn this into yet another GOP Vs Dem thread?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #17 May 4, 2013 Quote Seriously? You think peoplr are killing themselve because BHO is the POTUS? Or are you just trying to turn this into yet another GOP Vs Dem thread? I don't think the GOP is doing any better than the Democrats. It's two heads of the same snake. Under BHO's administration the regular American can't find work. Yet he sees welfare benefits being handed out like candy to those whose only useful purpose is to vote liberal. A large component of the suicide rate is our returning veterans from the Mideast. This year the rate has dropped some to between 10-13 per month. Previously, the rate was more like 15-20 per month. These are the last days. The point of no return has been reached. It was reached November, 2012. "There shall be weeping and the gnashing of teeth," Matthew 8:11-13. We can only do our best to prepare for the worst. Unfortunately, some have lost their will to hang in there.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #18 May 4, 2013 Jesus. I didn't follow US politics much when Bush Jr was in - was there this level of Chicken Little syndrome coming from the left back then? You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #19 May 4, 2013 Quote Jesus. I didn't follow US politics much when Bush Jr was in - was there this level of Chicken Little syndrome coming from the left back then? I don't think so. My awareness of dissatisfaction concerned the war in Iraq, although I was not one of them. Most were happy with us hunting Al Qaeda and Taliban in Afghanistan.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #20 May 4, 2013 Quote Quote Jesus. I didn't follow US politics much when Bush Jr was in - was there this level of Chicken Little syndrome coming from the left back then? I don't think so. My awareness of dissatisfaction concerned the war in Iraq, although I was not one of them. Most were happy with us hunting Al Qaeda and Taliban in Afghanistan. And that's worked out just so peachy for you guys... Hell, for our guys too... Sorry, I just start tuning out when people go all end of days because Obama got a second term. What little I knew of Bush, at the time I thought he was an idiot - I never thought he was the bloody anti-christ... You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #21 May 4, 2013 But, you don't live here. So it makes no difference.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #22 May 4, 2013 QuoteBut, you don't live here. So it makes no difference. Plenty of friends there. Plenty of family, too (dad's from Boston originally, still plenty of aunts, uncles, cousins and my last remaining grandparent over there too). My dual citizenship trumps your lazy dismissal. American policy has global repercussions, to suggest anyone outside your borders can't have a valid opinion is arrogance in the extreme.You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #23 May 4, 2013 Quote Jesus. I didn't follow US politics much when Bush Jr was in - was there this level of Chicken Little syndrome coming from the left back then? Here's a good example of why Obama is despised by many. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/23/eveningnews/main20035609.shtml http://www.politico.com/p/pages/fast-and-furious/ So you have the U.S. Government supplying drug cartels with guns which result in the murder of many Mexicans and some Americans, including an ATF Agent. Then he goes to Mexico and says this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319205/In-gun-control-argument-Obama-blames-Americans-Mexican-deaths-Most-guns-used-commit-violence-Mexico-come-United-States.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LyraM45 0 #24 May 4, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI found this truly shocking, more people in the USA kill themselves than are killed in road deaths! http://news.sky.com/story/1086464/suicide-rate-surpasses-road-deaths-in-us Why? BHO is president. People have lost their will to hang in there. This is why we need guns. +1 on the facepalm. Wow..... just wow.Apologies for the spelling (and grammar).... I got a B.S, not a B.A. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #25 May 4, 2013 Quote Quote Jesus. I didn't follow US politics much when Bush Jr was in - was there this level of Chicken Little syndrome coming from the left back then? Here's a good example of why Obama is despised by many. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/23/eveningnews/main20035609.shtml http://www.politico.com/p/pages/fast-and-furious/ So you have the U.S. Government supplying drug cartels with guns which result in the murder of many Mexicans and some Americans, including an ATF Agent. Then he goes to Mexico and says this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319205/In-gun-control-argument-Obama-blames-Americans-Mexican-deaths-Most-guns-used-commit-violence-Mexico-come-United-States.html Supplying is technically accurate, but misleading. I'd call Fast/Furious a decent idea, poorly executed. I do find it amusing that those who will vilify government agencies for allowing weapons to be purchased "legally" in whatever quantity they like, that then happen to get passed on to crims, will vilify those same agencies for wanting to monitor or restrict those same purchases for any other "legal" purchaser. If the ATF is watching they should step in, but the ATF better not be watching me! I disagree with more than a few policies out of this administration. The expanded drone program is scary as all hell. NDAA and CISPA are terrifying. I still don't despise Obama. I don't call him an anti-christ. I didn't do it with Bush either. What is it about this guy that fosters such vitriol compared to any other president before? It's exhausting trying to keep up with the double standards... You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
