SkyDekker 1,123 #101 November 14, 2012 QuoteAnyone still want to argue that there is any "honorable" component here? not at this point Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #102 November 14, 2012 Do you think Clinton was an honorable man? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #103 November 14, 2012 Quote Do you think Clinton was an honorable man? I don't know your age; are you old enough to remember the '92 campaign in detail? Cuz as I said up-thread, Bill all but openly told the world, "Yeah, I'm a hound dog." And the in-office blow jobs were just, uh, icing on the cake. God, I love that man. But, I digress. No, actually, YOU digress. Your question about Bill is a strawman re: the up-thread discussion about Gen. P. doing the honorable thing. That wasn't honorable; he simply punched-out before he got too much ground rush. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #104 November 14, 2012 I read that she said she did not get the classified stuff from the Director, and he concurs. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #105 November 14, 2012 Quote Quote Do you think Clinton was an honorable man? I don't know your age; are you old enough to remember the '92 campaign in detail? Cuz as I said up-thread, Bill all but openly told the world, "Yeah, I'm a hound dog." And the in-office blow jobs were just, uh, icing on the cake. God, I love that man. But, I digress. No, actually, YOU digress. Your question about Bill is a strawman re: the up-thread discussion about Gen. P. doing the honorable thing. That wasn't honorable; he simply punched-out before he got too much ground rush. So as long as someone tells you what they are in advance, whatever they do afterwards, they can't be held responsible for? WOW, nice set of morals. I guess that type of thinking opens the door to justify just about anything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #106 November 14, 2012 Nice twisting of my words. I guess I'll go back to my usual practice of not wasting my time trying to engage you in serious discourse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #107 November 14, 2012 QuoteI read that she said she did not get the classified stuff from the Director, and he concurs. Matt Who the hell can keep up w/the developments at this pace? Let's see what layer of the onion gets peeled off tomorrow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #108 November 14, 2012 QuoteYour question about Bill is a strawman Indeed. I only care what Petraeus did. I wonder whether she was worth it. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #109 November 14, 2012 QuoteI read that she said she did not get the classified stuff from the Director, and he concurs. Matt I reckon she got access to those records via the CIA Director. And isn't that part of the issue with security? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #110 November 14, 2012 QuoteQuoteYour question about Bill is a strawman Indeed. I only care what Petraeus did. I wonder whether she was worth it. Samson wondered the same thing. Complete the following sentence: "Women be ______________ ." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #111 November 14, 2012 But Clinton got a blow job! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #112 November 14, 2012 QuoteBut Clinton got a blow job! I rather suspect Gen. P. got one, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #113 November 14, 2012 QuoteQuoteBut Clinton got a blow job! I rather suspect Gen. P. got one, too. Okay, let's be honest, she's very athletic. It was probably a considerably better experience than what Bill Clinton got.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #114 November 14, 2012 QuoteBut Clinton got a blow job! This is the interesting thing, bill. My problem has never been that “Clinton got a blowjob.” My problem has been that Clinton got a blowjob: (1) from an intern; and (2) in the Oval Office. The Chief Executive getting some favors from an intern is a BIG problem for me. Turns out that it’s pretty much prima facie sexual harassment. Why? Because in exchange for the service she got access to certain places and things that others who didn’t blow him did not get. Re: Oval Office? Think there is nothing in the Oval Office that could be considered to be sensitive? Let’s say that instead of Clinton getting blown by an intern in the Oval Office of the White House it was the CIA Director getting blown by his biographer in a corner office at the NHB. In both places one can run the risk of a security lapse, blackmail, etc. The problem with the GOP is that they made the issue “Clinton got a blowjob” instead of what I saw as more serious possibilities resulting from the “lapse in judgment.” My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #115 November 14, 2012 Quote Okay, let's be honest, she's very athletic. It was probably a considerably better experience than what Bill Clinton got. Yes, she was a 1:36 half marathoner. That is moving pretty good."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 256 #116 November 14, 2012 Quote Quote Okay, let's be honest, she's very athletic. It was probably a considerably better experience than what Bill Clinton got. Yes, she was a 1:36 half marathoner. That is moving pretty good. Only about 30 mins behind Paul Ryan Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #117 November 14, 2012 QuoteThink there is nothing in the Oval Office that could be considered to be sensitive? Billy's glans? Being from Arkansas, he prolly wasn't snipped. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #118 November 15, 2012 Correct. They only lied to their spouses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #119 November 15, 2012 QuoteNice twisting of my words. I guess I'll go back to my usual practice of not wasting my time trying to engage you in serious discourse. That possibly could be the smartest thing you have done in quite a while. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,388 #120 November 15, 2012 Quote Quote Think there is nothing in the Oval Office that could be considered to be sensitive? Billy's glans? Being from Arkansas, he prolly wasn't snipped. Damn; Beat me to the punch line."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #121 November 15, 2012 Quote the onion speaking of..... http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-horrified-to-learn-about-war-in-afghanistan,30367/____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #122 November 15, 2012 Quote For these were proud princes, most prosperous of old, Past all lovers lucky, that languished under heaven, bemused. And one and all fell prey To women they had used; If I be led astry, Methinks I may be excused. (didn't work out for this guy either)witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,123 #123 November 15, 2012 Read in a Canadian newspaper (but provided by AP)that 5 current or former generals have now been reprimanded or investigated for possible misconduct in the past two weeks. Beginning to wonder if there has been a bit of a culture of misconduct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #124 November 15, 2012 QuoteRead in a Canadian newspaper (but provided by AP)that 5 current or former generals have now been reprimanded or investigated for possible misconduct in the past two weeks. Beginning to wonder if there has been a bit of a culture of misconduct. Indeed: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/16/us/panetta-orders-review-of-ethics-training-for-officers.html QuoteThis year, there have in fact been an unusually large number of senior military officers investigated or fired for sexual improprieties, sexual violence, malfeasance or poor judgment. Gen. William E. Ward, the former commander of the United States Africa Command, was this week ordered to repay the Army $82,000 for misusing government money for travel and lodging, and will be retired at the lower rank of lieutenant general. Brig. Gen. Jeffrey A. Sinclair, a former deputy commander of the 82nd Airborne Division in Afghanistan, is confronting the military equivalent of a grand jury to decide whether he should stand trial on charges of adultery, sexual misconduct and forcible sodomy. James H. Johnson III, a former commander of the 173rd Airborne Brigade, was expelled from the Army, fined and reduced in rank to lieutenant colonel from colonel after being convicted of bigamy and fraud. The Air Force, in the meantime, is struggling to recover from a scandal at Lackland Air Force Base in Texas, where six male instructors were charged with crimes that included rape and adultery. In the Navy, Rear Adm. Charles M. Gaouette was relieved of command of the Stennis aircraft carrier strike group because of “inappropriate leadership judgment.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,626 #125 November 15, 2012 A solution presents itself: www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/252872.php... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites