Conservative attacks Obama on family values

[billvon 2,400]

Dinesh D'Souza, attacking Obama on his disdain for "traditional" family values:

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Why is Obama on the social issues — and I’m thinking here of abortion, I’m thinking here of gay marriage — why is Obama so aggressive in attacking the traditional values agenda? . . . Obama doesn’t like traditional Christianity because he identifies it with colonialism. Obama’s own Christianity is more of a Third World liberation theology, a very different kind of Jeremiah Wright type philosophy, summarized in the idea that America is the rogue nation in the world.
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Ultimately there’s a political divide in this country but underneath that is a moral divide, and underneath that is a spiritual divide. I think that the deepest problems facing America and the West in the end are not political, they are spiritual. This is why it makes sense even as we debate policy issues, even as we debate moral issues, to turn to the maker of the universe, this maker of the universe that isn’t just an absentee God like Obama’s dad, a kind of absentee father who got things going and then took off but a God who cares about each one of us and certainly about our country.
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Issues like divorce and family breakdown are important in themselves, yet they are ultimately symbols of a great moral shift that has occurred in American society, one that continues to divide and polarize this country, and one that is at the root of the anti-Americanism of traditional cultures.
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. . . feminists and liberals of other stripes started pointing out the hypocrisies of what they termed “patriarchy.” Time and again, they urged us to recognize human’s natural “animal instincts” in relation to traditional morality and therefore, to reject traditional institutions such as marriage as outdated because now these intellectual elites had things like biology and sociology, things like women’s studies, gender studies, and critical race theory, to back them up. They pointed to infidelity or infamous sexual desire surveys (conducted by homosexuals) among traditionally married couples to “prove” their theses. Limb by limb, they tore the traditional family to shreds until they reduced us to the shining bastion of zoological (but even animals aren’t this bad and do not depend on the state to care for them)cesspool equality that we have now in every American ghetto and which is seeping out into the middle and upper classes in less animated ways. These people, like their European counterparts, are the ones who will go extinct. For instance, we have raised an entire generation of boys who, permanently scarred by their parents’ divorces(perhaps over issues such as infidelity) cannot emotionally connect or commit to any one woman in any meaningful way and so we also have an entire generation of girls for whom that coveted diamond solitaire comes later and later in life, with more and more contractual caveats (prenups). Somehow, when it happens after 5 years of living together, after 1 year of non-exclusive dating followed by another 3 years of recurring breakups over the male’s unwillingness to “commit,” getting that ring for which you girls will surely be paying your hard-earned half, doesn’t feel quite like the fairytale it used to.
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So here we have a conservative, attacking Obama for disdaining traditional values, and lamenting what the liberals and feminists have done to the traditional family.

You all know what's coming next:

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October 16, 2012
12:22PM

The Fall of D’Souza’s Star?
Sarah Posner

The evangelical magazine WORLD is reporting that Dinesh D’Souza, whose book The Roots of Obama’s Rage was the basis for his anti-Obama movie 2016, showed up at a Christian conference last month with his fiancé. He shared a hotel room with the young woman, but, he assured a conference organizer in Clinton-esque fashion, “nothing happened.”

So you figure that conservative Christians might overlook an innocent, pre-marital shared hotel room, right? Perhaps. The real problem is that D’Souza is still married to his wife of 20 years.

According to WORLD’s Warren Smith, D’Souza, whose $10,000 per speech honoraria places him in the “top tier” of Christian speakers, was in South Carolina to speak at a Baptist church, which was hosting “high-profile Christians speak on defending the faith and applying a Christian worldview to their lives.”

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In his defense, he said that he "had no idea that it is considered wrong in Christian circles to be engaged prior to being divorced."

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Hypocrisy of a high order to be sure. One of the main reasons I (and I'm sure MANY others) have fallen out of religious faith after be raised strictly Christian.

In every man's life he will be allotted one good woman and one good dog. That's all you get, so appreciate them while the time you have with them lasts.

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[RonD1120 58]

D'Souza's dalliance, if it is true, tarnishes his character but it does not alter the truth of his examination of BHO's ideology. He did not attack BHO in his works. He explained BHO when everyone was trying to figure out who this guy was and how he got here.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[grimmie 173]

All the great self proclaimed family values christians seem to end up in bed with a guy or girl they shouldn't have been.

Rock throwers...

[kallend 1,625]

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D'Souza's dalliance, if it is true, tarnishes his character but it does not alter the truth of his examination of BHO's ideology. He did not attack BHO in his works. He explained BHO when everyone was trying to figure out who this guy was and how he got here.

www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/19/us-usa-people-dsouza-idUSBRE89I12G20121019

Yet another hypocrite from the right.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Dinesh-DSouza-anti-Obama-film-maker-quits-over-marital-caper/articleshow/16897319.cms

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[billvon 2,400]

>D'Souza's dalliance, if it is true, tarnishes his character but it does not alter the truth
>of his examination of BHO's ideology.

Only a true conservative could condemn someone else for attacking traditional family values at a conference while sleeping with a woman who was not his wife.

Coming up next - conservative attacks socialism while insisting that he is entitled to a payout from his favorite socialist programs.

This is one of the reasons that conservatives are still behind in an election that should have been theirs for the taking. The extremists in their party consistently attack other people for doing exactly the same thing they are doing, and don't see anything wrong with that. Do that for a few years and people start to think "are they lying about _everything_? Why do mainstream republicans tolerate this? Are they really OK with such hypocrisy?"

[RonD1120 58]

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D'Souza's dalliance, if it is true, tarnishes his character but it does not alter the truth of his examination of BHO's ideology. He did not attack BHO in his works. He explained BHO when everyone was trying to figure out who this guy was and how he got here.

www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/19/us-usa-people-dsouza-idUSBRE89I12G20121019

Yet another hypocrite from the right.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Dinesh-DSouza-anti-Obama-film-maker-quits-over-marital-caper/articleshow/16897319.cms

It is very unfortunate but, D'Souza took personal responsibility and did the right thing. Everyone pays for their sin. Sooner or later, everyone pays.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[RonD1120 58]

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>D'Souza's dalliance, if it is true, tarnishes his character but it does not alter the truth
>of his examination of BHO's ideology.

Only a true conservative could condemn someone else for attacking traditional family values at a conference while sleeping with a woman who was not his wife.

That is a given. A true liberal considers such behavior as normal.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[kallend 1,625]

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D'Souza's dalliance, if it is true, tarnishes his character but it does not alter the truth of his examination of BHO's ideology. He did not attack BHO in his works. He explained BHO when everyone was trying to figure out who this guy was and how he got here.

www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/19/us-usa-people-dsouza-idUSBRE89I12G20121019

Yet another hypocrite from the right.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Dinesh-DSouza-anti-Obama-film-maker-quits-over-marital-caper/articleshow/16897319.cms

It is very unfortunate but, D'Souza took personal responsibility and did the right thing. Everyone pays for their sin. Sooner or later, everyone pays.

Doing the right thing does not include adultery. Doing the right thing does not include condemning the moral values of others while being an adulterer.

Stop excusing this guy's behavior. He is a fucking hypocrite, and so is any apologist his behavior.

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[RonD1120 58]

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It is very unfortunate but, D'Souza took personal responsibility and did the right thing. Everyone pays for their sin. Sooner or later, everyone pays.

Doing the right thing does not include adultery. Doing the right thing does not include condemning the moral values of others while being an adulterer.

Stop excusing this guy's behavior. He is a fucking hypocrite, and so is any apologist his behavior.

[kallend 1,625]

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It is very unfortunate but, D'Souza took personal responsibility and did the right thing. Everyone pays for their sin. Sooner or later, everyone pays.

Doing the right thing does not include adultery. Doing the right thing does not include condemning the moral values of others while being an adulterer.

Stop excusing this guy's behavior. He is a fucking hypocrite, and so is any apologist his behavior.

You seem to have trouble with written dialogue..

Doing the right thing is resigning from his position.

[RonD1120 58]

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Oh, so resigning makes it right. Got it.

Good, you see the difference between Dinesh D'Souza and Bill Clinton.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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>D'Souza's dalliance, if it is true, tarnishes his character but it does not alter the truth
>of his examination of BHO's ideology.

Only a true conservative could condemn someone else for attacking traditional family values at a conference while sleeping with a woman who was not his wife.

That is a given. A true liberal considers such behavior as normal.

If they consider that kind of behavior normal, then that is their business. What I have a problem with is when somebody is out to get another person for doing something that they consider not normal based on their own beliefs. Or make a law surrounding it. Or base their entire political platform and run on 'good family values,' yet they are hiding in closets having gay sex and/or sleeping with random hookers or something.

What you consider 'normal' in this area is your business. Keep it to yourself. Nobody would be thinking anything of this guy if he wasn't out bashing other people for their lack of 'family values.' It seems this is a huge problem in the republican party, which is why they are always attacked for it.

Apologies for the spelling (and grammar).... I got a B.S, not a B.A. :)

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Oh, so resigning makes it right. Got it.

Good, you see the difference between Dinesh D'Souza and Bill Clinton.

Yes, I can identify a hypocrite, and it's obvious that you can't.

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[RonD1120 58]

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Oh, so resigning makes it right. Got it.

Good, you see the difference between Dinesh D'Souza and Bill Clinton.

Yes, I can identify a hypocrite, and it's obvious that you can't.

The man resigned. What more do you want?

While in church this morning I looked around and saw a room full of hypocrites and sinners. That is one of the reasons to enter into a house of worship. Christians bring their fallibilities before the alter of God. They confess, they pray and ask forgiveness and they repent. They worship in the joy of the Holy Spirit because they are forgiven.

To call a Christian a hypocrite is not a big deal. If it is not true, and the person bearing the accusation knows if it is true, it means nothing. If it is true then the Holy Spirit brings the accusation to weigh on the conscience of the believer. He now has direction to work on a personal task.

You see, we know that Satan is the accuser of the brethren and we know how to deal with Satan.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[Remster 24]

A least for the right, it wasn't a guy....

Remster

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Oh, so resigning makes it right. Got it.

Good, you see the difference between Dinesh D'Souza and Bill Clinton.

Yes, I can identify a hypocrite, and it's obvious that you can't.

The man resigned. What more do you want?

While in church this morning I looked around and saw a room full of hypocrites and sinners. That is one of the reasons to enter into a house of worship.

Well, to each his own, but I prefer not to hang out with hypocrites.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[tkhayes 126]

What are 'traditional American values' anyway? Keeping slaves? Raping slaves? multiple wives like the Mormons? lynching? Shutting out all religions except Christianity? Keeping people of color at the back of the bus? back of the restaurant? back of the schools? Burning witches? banning the vote for people of color because they cannot read or write? Burning crosses?

Traditions are like 'norms' as commented earlier - they are individual, cannot be legislated (nor should they be) and are guaranteed to be bullshit to one group of people over another.

There are no 'traditional family values', especially if your 'family tradition' was for example, your Dad getting drunk and beating the shit out of your Mom. If that is what you grew up with - then THAT is your 'family tradition' (or at the very least part of it)

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What are 'traditional American values' anyway? Keeping slaves? Raping slaves? multiple wives like the Mormons? lynching? Shutting out all religions except Christianity? Keeping people of color at the back of the bus? back of the restaurant? back of the schools? Burning witches? banning the vote for people of color because they cannot read or write? Burning crosses?

Traditions are like 'norms' as commented earlier - they are individual, cannot be legislated (nor should they be) and are guaranteed to be bullshit to one group of people over another.

There are no 'traditional family values', especially if your 'family tradition' was for example, your Dad getting drunk and beating the shit out of your Mom. If that is what you grew up with - then THAT is your 'family tradition' (or at the very least part of it)

So, you are saying this lable was developed so liberals could bash family centric ideals?

Now it makes sense

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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While in church this morning I looked around and saw a room full of hypocrites and sinners. That is one of the reasons to enter into a house of worship. Christians bring their fallibilities before the alter of God. They confess, they pray and ask forgiveness and they repent. They worship in the joy of the Holy Spirit because they are forgiven.

Then on Monday-Saturday they return to the exact same behavior they just "repented."

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[airdvr 197]

The reason this guy has become a high level target is his movie about Obama. I haven't seen it and have no plans to. It's propaganda for sure.

I guess I'm having trouble seeing the liberal outrage. He's been seperated from his wife for 2 years. He's involved with someone else and has plans to marry her once the divorce is final. What am I missing other than the liberals frothing at the mouth to get at the guy who dissed Barry. Hmmm....I've heard of Muslims doing the same thing for dissing Muhammad.

Please don't dent the planet.

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The reason this guy has become a high level target is his movie about Obama. I haven't seen it and have no plans to. It's propaganda for sure.

I guess I'm having trouble seeing the liberal outrage. He's been seperated from his wife for 2 years. He's involved with someone else and has plans to marry her once the divorce is final. What am I missing other than the liberals frothing at the mouth to get at the guy who dissed Barry. Hmmm....I've heard of Muslims doing the same thing for dissing Muhammad.

+1. SOP. If you can't refute the facts, attack the messenger. So what else is new?

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The reason this guy has become a high level target is his movie about Obama. I haven't seen it and have no plans to. It's propaganda for sure.

2016: Obama's America is not an anti-BHO documentary. It is an explanation of his upbringing, training and ideology. I think the majority of our Left Wing Liberals would be in agreement with most of what is presented.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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The reason this guy has become a high level target is his movie about Obama. I haven't seen it and have no plans to. It's propaganda for sure.

2016: Obama's America is not an anti-BHO documentary. It is an explanation of his upbringing, training and ideology. I think the majority of our Left Wing Liberals would be in agreement with most of what is presented.

To be fair I haven't seen any of the Michael Moore stuff either. I've been around long enough to know when someone has an agenda.

Please don't dent the planet.

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