winsor 191 #426 June 15, 2012 Quote Quote I don't claim to know unlike you all. The proper terminology is I don't claim to know unlike y'all. The plural of 'y'all' is 'all y'all.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #427 June 15, 2012 QuoteI'm just rejecting beliefs you and others are espousing. clearly this statement shows you aren't then reading my posts and are just trolling along - I'm agnostic, if that, I don't really care about the existence or non-existence of deities, though I lean to non, because the rationalization of the pro side is a bit silly to me for all the religions - though a giant bowl of spaghetti sounds awesome the ONLY belief I'm espousing is respecting and tolerating others the irony of your post in terms of tolerance is amazing here ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deltron80 0 #428 June 15, 2012 QuoteQuoteI'm just rejecting beliefs you and others are espousing. clearly this statement shows you aren't then reading my posts and are just trolling along - I'm agnostic, if that, I don't really care about the existence or non-existence of deities, though I lean to non, because the rationalization of the pro side is a bit silly to me for all the religions - though a giant bowl of spaghetti sounds awesome the ONLY belief I'm espousing is respecting and tolerating others the irony of your post in terms of tolerance is amazing here Nope I read your posts. You sound like a mealy mouthed half believer christian apologist. Shit or get off the pot bro. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #429 June 15, 2012 QuoteNope I read your posts. You sound like a mealy mouthed half believer christian apologist. Shit or get off the pot bro. you sound a lot like middle century bishops and cardinals did have a good weekend - partly cloudy here ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #430 June 15, 2012 QuoteRight. They talk about Christ. (I assume you know what his full name was.) "Christ" is actually an honorific like, "The Pope." His name was Jesus (of Nazareth).quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deltron80 0 #431 June 15, 2012 QuoteQuoteNope I read your posts. You sound like a mealy mouthed half believer christian apologist. Shit or get off the pot bro. you sound a lot like middle century bishops and cardinals did have a good weekend - partly cloudy here I may sound like them, but what I'm saying is based in reality and I don't molest kids. You have a good weekend too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #432 June 15, 2012 Quotewhat I'm saying is based in reality and I don't molest kids that's always a plus blue skies ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,473 #433 June 15, 2012 >you sound a lot like middle century bishops and cardinals did "What? You're not an atheist? CALL THE SWEDISH INQUISITION!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deltron80 0 #434 June 15, 2012 It's not as much fun when the heathen bite back is it? lol Here's some atheist propaganda for all y'all to enjoy. http://i.imgur.com/ffVYJ.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #435 June 15, 2012 Quote>you sound a lot like middle century bishops and cardinals did "What? You're not an atheist? CALL THE SWEDISH INQUISITION!" And you assemble IKEA furniture as your punishment?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #436 June 15, 2012 Quote So, we shouldn't argue with Ron because he's delusional and it's not fair on him to be pitted against clear minded people capable of rational argument? You're right, that's far less arrogant If you are going to try and insult me at least choose terms correctly. Try and pick some that you truly understand the accepted definition. See: Diagnostic and Statistical Manual -IVLook for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,279 #437 June 15, 2012 Quote I'd rather use my energy trying to knock down large organized and corrupt political groups. I think it's more productive than trying to knock out an individual's personal coping methods. Yeah, but when you attack the organisation of the catholic (or other) church they react just as personally anyway.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #438 June 15, 2012 Quote the ONLY belief I'm espousing is respecting and tolerating others I think toleration of religious beliefs (to a certain extent of course) is a great good, but respect is a little bit too much to ask. Faith by its very definition is belief without proof, and that's just stupid. People are free to have faith but they really should keep it to themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #439 June 15, 2012 Quote Religion is not a 'tool' it is an intellectual cage. If anyone is using it as a tool it is those in power using it to control you. Your professors still feeding you shit? The post reads as though you actually know that as fact. Wrong. QuoteThey do not help anyone. Wrong again. Quote If someone thinks it helped them they are delusional. Wrong again. QuotePeople that sit on the fence between the two sides and make apologies for religious extremists might as well be extremists themselves. Wrong again. QuoteBy supporting this tripe in any way you are just validating and lending moral support to a morally and philosophically bankrupt system of thought control Guess what? Wrong again. Your prof is batting ZERO. Quoteand I refuse to agree with any of that. The truth will always win in the end. And that OK. What's weird is how others' beliefs bother you so much. Your life must be miserable. What's even weirder is your arrogant need to have everyone believe as you do....and that's not OK regardless of who is doing your thinking for you.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #440 June 15, 2012 QuoteI don't know or care if Jesus actually existed. I'm just responding to your claims that he does. Right. Giving you a break and assuming this to be true, your narrow vision of what "proof" means only allows for the currently-known physical. Changing the goal posts from "physical proof" to "objective proof" doesn't mask your lack of understanding, tolerance and humility. Profs...gotta love 'em.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,679 #441 June 15, 2012 Quote>BTW, this talk of Jesus existing is irrelevant to the question of whether or not a deity exists. Uh, OK. You brought it up to "show my bias." I agree that it's not conclusive proof of a deity, and that he likely did exist. About as likely as Ajax and Achilles.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #442 June 15, 2012 Quote Quote Religion is like genitalia. It is fine to have either, not to be confused with having both which would be confusing, and distracting I'm thinking "much more fun"..... My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #443 June 15, 2012 Quote the ONLY belief I'm espousing is respecting and tolerating others the irony of your post in terms of tolerance is amazing here ^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^ Refreshing to see a measure of real thinking.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #444 June 15, 2012 Quote I think toleration of religious beliefs (to a certain extent of course) is a geat goo, but respect is a little bit too much to ask. For many in today's world, yes. Many do not have a level of understanding and tolerance that enables them to be respectful of others....beliefs or otherwise. QuoteFaith by its very definition is belief without proof, and that's just stupid. Well. Thank you for you contribution. It's off-base but thanks anyway. I never realized that I needed to live my life according to your definitions of "faith" and "stupid". Quote People are free to have faith but they really should keep it to themselves. And by the same token, people are free to NOT have faith but they really should keep it to themselves. Ahhhhh...but that doesn't fly with you, does it? Ask yourself why that is.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #445 June 15, 2012 Quote About as likely as Ajax and Achilles. This is where you blew it John. You may remember that Ajax actually existed. "Use Ajax, bum, bum, The foaming cleanser, bum bum bum-bum bum bum Get's things clean, just like a whiz bum bum bum-bum-bum bum bum" ....and Achilles! Well! I can't tell you how much my very real pain in my heel area is bothering me. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 191 #446 June 15, 2012 QuoteQuote>BTW, this talk of Jesus existing is irrelevant to the question of whether or not a deity exists. Uh, OK. You brought it up to "show my bias." I agree that it's not conclusive proof of a deity, and that he likely did exist. About as likely as Ajax and Achilles. Significantly less likely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #447 June 16, 2012 QuoteI'm done tip toeing around the arrogantly delusional cultists all around me. Times are a-changin' folks. Get on the trolley or get left behind. Ding! Ding! All aboard. Where ya goin;? Any where different than I've already been? I've got a closet full of been there done that T-shirts.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #448 June 16, 2012 Quote I fail to see why denying an entire box of tools, in a system so complex (human psyche), is a good thing. Relying on only that box is also bad; just think about the kids (like you) who rebelled. Wendy P. In the counseling field we call that an eclectic approach. We are ethically bound to walk the path the client walks. Here in SC it is pretty much a free fire zone. Don't cha think? This forum is similar to an encounter group. The difference being the group rules have not been firmly established and agreed upon. Encounter groups also have a beginning and an end. SC goes on ad nauseam, as Winsor would say.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deltron80 0 #449 June 16, 2012 So Ron, if non-believers are so eclectic, and over 90% of Americans believe in God, I guess your path isn't all that narrow is it? http://www.claybennett.com/pages2/theaters.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #450 June 17, 2012 QuoteSo Ron, if non-believers are so eclectic, and over 90% of Americans believe in God, I guess your path isn't all that narrow is it? http://www.claybennett.com/pages2/theaters.html I was using the term eclectic as a counseling term. I don't know what you are talking about. To clarify, I am a Christian who was employed as a counselor. Prior to that I had a private Christian counseling practice. Two different job descriptions and functions.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
