JohnRich 4 #1 March 30, 2012 News:Department Of Homeland Security Is Buying 450 Million Bullets "The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and its Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) office is getting an "indefinite delivery" of an "indefinite quantity" of .40 caliber ammunition from defense contractor ATK. U.S. agents will receive a maximum of 450 million rounds over five years, according to a press release on the deal..."Full story: Business Insider I feel safer already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #2 March 30, 2012 Will those be issued to their glorified rent-a-cop TSA agents?"The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #3 March 30, 2012 Quotean "indefinite delivery" of an "indefinite quantity" Infinite possibilities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #4 March 30, 2012 God! No sense in having the weapons without the ammo to go with it. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,398 #5 March 30, 2012 Quote God! No sense in having the weapons without the ammo to go with it. Chuck I would feel better if they were each issued one bullet and ordred to keep it in their pocket.(Baby-boomers wil get the reference)."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #6 March 30, 2012 Quote Quote God! No sense in having the weapons without the ammo to go with it. Chuck I would feel better if they were each issued one bullet and ordred to keep it in their pocket.(Baby-boomers wil get the reference). Well, Barn... I would imagine, much of that ammo will be used to periodically qualify at the range. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loch1957 0 #7 March 30, 2012 That doesnt bother me as bad as this. http://oregonshout.ning.com/profiles/blogs/irsdepartment-of-education I guess junior high kids have gotten meaner since I was there.Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #8 March 30, 2012 QuoteI would imagine, much of that ammo will be used to periodically qualify at the range. Right. And DHS includes Border Patrol, which has armed officers. 450 million bullets for 5 years is 90 million per year. How many armed DHS employees are there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #9 March 30, 2012 I did a search and couldn't come-up with a figure. I think, people have to consider that the amount of ammo is not going to be dumped on Homeland Security in one big lump delivery. This is what, over a 5-yr. period? People get all worked-up over stuff like this. Ho much ammo has Homeland Security ordered in the past? Like I said earlier, they have the weapons, they should have the ammo. People need to realize what the bad guys have for weaponry and the resources they have. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kawisixer01 0 #10 March 30, 2012 Odd that a company that just got a sizable contract would decide to close operations at a couple of plants. http://gazettextra.com/weblogs/latest-news/2012/mar/29/ammunition-company-closing-wisconsin-plant/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #11 March 30, 2012 What is odd about it, the factory in that story may have zero to do with the production of the bullets that have been ordered."The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,141 #12 March 30, 2012 QuoteWhat is odd about it, the factory in that story may have zero to do with the production of the bullets that have been ordered. Considering that plant doesn't manufacture ammunition, the odds on you being correct are very high. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #13 March 30, 2012 QuoteQuoteI would imagine, much of that ammo will be used to periodically qualify at the range. Right. And DHS includes Border Patrol, which has armed officers. 450 million bullets for 5 years is 90 million per year. How many armed DHS employees are there? I read that press release with its indefinites and maximums as saying they'll take deliveries based on needs/usage up to as much as 450M. If they use it at a slow clip, it may come under. (or in typical government budgeting frenzy, will shoot the fuck out of anything standing in month 58 and request the remainder.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #14 March 30, 2012 I'd have to agree with Doug on this one. The thing is, we don't know just who is/has the contract with the govt. I could be Olin or some other big manufacturer. One thing about it, my wife doesn't have to worry about .40 cal. ammo. The agency she retired from, loaded her up with that ammo. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #15 April 2, 2012 QuoteRight. And DHS includes Border Patrol, which has armed officers. 450 million bullets for 5 years is 90 million per year. How many armed DHS employees are there? It also included ICE, the Secret Service, and the Coast Guard.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #16 April 2, 2012 Nope ... YOU are buying 450Million rounds for the DHS to play with.... hope they're grateful (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #17 April 2, 2012 Quote Nope ... YOU are buying 450Million rounds for the DHS to play with.... hope they're grateful You Betchya! They'd better get the good stuff and not some cut-rate crap. They get in a bind I want our guys comin' out on top! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
