JohnRich 4 #1 October 12, 2011 News:Disney Channel Edits Out Gun From 1938 Mickey Mouse Cartoon "One morning recently my kids were watching the Disney Channel when they featured an old Mickey Mouse classic called ‘Mickey’s Parrot‘ which was originally released back on September 09, 1938. In this episode, a parrot belonging to an escaped killer wanders into Mickey’s basement. Mickey hears it talking and thinks that the parrot is the killer who is on the loose who he just heard about on the radio. Mickey then goes and grabs his double barreled shotgun off of the wall and prepares to defend himself. Well, wouldn’t you know it… in the version they presented on the Disney Channel the other day, they had digitally removed the shotgun and replaced it with a broom. Yes, Mickey grabbed a broom off of the gun rack, shouldered it, and prepared to defend himself with his handy, dandy tactical… broom..."Full story: Ammoland Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,647 #2 October 12, 2011 QuoteNews:Disney Channel Edits Out Gun From 1938 Mickey Mouse Cartoon "One morning recently my kids were watching the Disney Channel when they featured an old Mickey Mouse classic called ‘Mickey’s Parrot‘ which was originally released back on September 09, 1938. In this episode, a parrot belonging to an escaped killer wanders into Mickey’s basement. Mickey hears it talking and thinks that the parrot is the killer who is on the loose who he just heard about on the radio. Mickey then goes and grabs his double barreled shotgun off of the wall and prepares to defend himself. Well, wouldn’t you know it… in the version they presented on the Disney Channel the other day, they had digitally removed the shotgun and replaced it with a broom. Yes, Mickey grabbed a broom off of the gun rack, shouldered it, and prepared to defend himself with his handy, dandy tactical… broom..."Full story: Ammoland Oh dear, civilization as we know it is coming to an end!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #3 October 12, 2011 Quote Quote News: Disney Channel Edits Out Gun From 1938 Mickey Mouse Cartoon "One morning recently my kids were watching the Disney Channel when they featured an old Mickey Mouse classic called ‘Mickey’s Parrot‘ which was originally released back on September 09, 1938. In this episode, a parrot belonging to an escaped killer wanders into Mickey’s basement. Mickey hears it talking and thinks that the parrot is the killer who is on the loose who he just heard about on the radio. Mickey then goes and grabs his double barreled shotgun off of the wall and prepares to defend himself. Well, wouldn’t you know it… in the version they presented on the Disney Channel the other day, they had digitally removed the shotgun and replaced it with a broom. Yes, Mickey grabbed a broom off of the gun rack, shouldered it, and prepared to defend himself with his handy, dandy tactical… broom..." Full story: Ammoland Oh dear, civilization as we know it is coming to an end! thanks prof, one of the better things i've read today! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #4 October 12, 2011 QuoteOh dear, civilization as we know it is coming to an end! Where did you get that idea? Should we only talk about things here that can cause the end of civilization, and nothing else? So... what do you think we should do about that astroid that's headed for earth? Were restrictions on model rocket motors going to lead to the end of civiliization? Should we remove all references to rockets from cartoons? That's going to limit Wile E. Coyote's arsenal against the Roadrunner. But what the heck, we wouldn't want to give kids the idea that rockets can be used to kill. So maybe we should all write to Looney Toons and demand they edit out all rockets from their Roadrunner cartoons. For that matter, explosives too. And falling off of cliffs! There's way too much falling off cliffs in those cartoons - it might give kids the idea that they can jump off cliffs, and survive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #5 October 12, 2011 Disney can do whatever it wants with its property. edit out a gun from a cartoon? It's their cartoon. Of course, it is also something that I believe to be counterproductive. Let's hide things from kids. That way when they are actually exposed to them as adults or older kids they'll be curious about them outside of the guidance of parents. Donald Duck himself will be banned. Getting angry, fighting, and having a generally nasty disposition. It's no way for kids to act. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #6 October 12, 2011 QuoteDonald Duck himself will be banned. Getting angry, fighting, and having a generally nasty disposition. It's no way for kids to act. Don't forget never wearing pants. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,647 #7 October 12, 2011 QuoteQuoteOh dear, civilization as we know it is coming to an end! Where did you get that idea? Should we only talk about things here that can cause the end of civilization, and nothing else? Were restrictions on model rocket motors going to lead to the end of civiliization? Should we remove all references to rockets from cartoons? That's going to limit Wile E. Coyote's arsenal against the Roadrunner. But what the heck, we wouldn't want to give kids the idea that rockets can be used to kill. So maybe we should all write to Looney Toons and demand they edit out all rockets from their Roadrunner cartoons. For that matter, explosives too. And falling off of cliffs. Nice rant. Cartoons really get you going.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #8 October 12, 2011 You should understand that nobody is demanding Disney do this; specifically not the government (they couldn't care less). In addition to weapons, they also have gone back and "fixed" alcohol and tobacco references in certain instances. Not all, but some very specific ones for product they are going to show at very specific times on The Disney Channel (aka the electronic babysitter). It has nothing to do with Disney being for or against alcohol, tobacco or firearms either. It's simply a marketing decision. You wanna talk about the free market controlling what happens? This is the result. You don't like it? Fine. Don't subscribe to The Disney Channel. I can 100% absolutely guarantee you though that some Disney bean counter figured out to the penny the cost of the revisions versus how many people would stop subscribing with and without them and it penciled out in favor of the revisions. If you ever want to know why Disney does anything, the answer is money.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,433 #9 October 12, 2011 >Should we remove all references to rockets from cartoons? What do you want to do, John? Do you want to BAN cartoons that the owners alter? What else do you want to BAN? JK Rowling might someday edit her books and release them in a new format with changes to the text! Better BAN that. Musicians might remake old songs and even change the lyrics! Better BAN that. You could have a list of all things you want BANNED so that you don't see too many changes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #10 October 12, 2011 QuoteMusicians might remake old songs and even change the lyrics! Better BAN that Here's an exception to free speech I'd appreciate. Imagine if there would have never been a Vanilla Ice. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #11 October 12, 2011 QuoteQuoteOh dear, civilization as we know it is coming to an end! Where did you get that idea? Should we only talk about things here that can cause the end of civilization, and nothing else? So... what do you think we should do about that astroid that's headed for earth? Were restrictions on model rocket motors going to lead to the end of civiliization? Should we remove all references to rockets from cartoons? That's going to limit Wile E. Coyote's arsenal against the Roadrunner. But what the heck, we wouldn't want to give kids the idea that rockets can be used to kill. So maybe we should all write to Looney Toons and demand they edit out all rockets from their Roadrunner cartoons. For that matter, explosives too. And falling off of cliffs! There's way too much falling off cliffs in those cartoons - it might give kids the idea that they can jump off cliffs, and survive. You can walk off cliffs without falling, until you look down and realize there's no ground beneath your feet. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,647 #12 October 12, 2011 Quote>Should we remove all references to rockets from cartoons? What do you want to do, John? Do you want to BAN cartoons that the owners alter? What else do you want to BAN? JK Rowling might someday edit her books and release them in a new format with changes to the text! Better BAN that. Musicians might remake old songs and even change the lyrics! Better BAN that. You could have a list of all things you want BANNED so that you don't see too many changes. There are lots of changes between editions of Isaac Newton's "Principia", Douglas Adams's "Hitchhiker's Guide" series, Halliday and Resnick's "Principles of Physics", Neil Stephenson's "Baroque Cycle" and numerous other books, not to mention many of Beethoven's symphonies, and works of Stravinsky. Handel, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, and other notable musicians. JR is only pissed because a gun was involved in this case. Oh the humanity!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #13 October 12, 2011 Quote Imagine if there would have never been a Vanilla Ice. I dare you to listen to "Ice Ice Baby" today and not giggle your ass off. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #14 October 12, 2011 Well I certainly hope they don't touch any of the Looney Tunes shorts! It's wabbit season! No it's duck season! Wabbit season! Duck season! WABBIT season! DUCK season! BLAM!!! Old classics should never be altered. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,647 #15 October 12, 2011 Quote Well I certainly hope they don't touch any of the Looney Tunes shorts! It's wabbit season! No it's duck season! Wabbit season! Duck season! WABBIT season! DUCK season! BLAM!!! Old classics should never be altered. Why not? Beethoven rewrote one of his overtures three times.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #16 October 12, 2011 Quote Well I certainly hope they don't touch any of the Looney Tunes shorts! It's wabbit season! No it's duck season! Wabbit season! Duck season! WABBIT season! DUCK season! BLAM!!! Old classics should never be altered. Interesting that you should say that. We have several Looney tunes compilations. At the introduction is none other than Whoopie Goldberg. She comments that the Looney Tunes cartoons are being presented unedited despite the things in them that are racist or otherwise offensive. She explains that the portrayals were wrong then and wrong now, but to simply cut them out is to ignore facets of our history that if ignored, can be more easily repeated. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #17 October 12, 2011 Quote Quote Well I certainly hope they don't touch any of the Looney Tunes shorts! It's wabbit season! No it's duck season! Wabbit season! Duck season! WABBIT season! DUCK season! BLAM!!! Old classics should never be altered. Interesting that you should say that. We have several Looney tunes compilations. At the introduction is none other than Whoopie Goldberg. She comments that the Looney Tunes cartoons are being presented unedited despite the things in them that are racist or otherwise offensive. She explains that the portrayals were wrong then and wrong now, but to simply cut them out is to ignore facets of our history that if ignored, can be more easily repeated. I commented on the premise that the classics were funny as all hell and that altering them to be politically correct would be asinine and not as funny. Look at the movies... Just because you can do a remake doesn't mean it's going to be better than the original, and it rarely is. Your premise is correct, especially when it comes to books with historical and anthropological significance that come from those times where the language in them would be offensive now. Leave them as is, so future generations can see it for what it was, and learn from it so as not to repeat it."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,259 #18 October 12, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Well I certainly hope they don't touch any of the Looney Tunes shorts! It's wabbit season! No it's duck season! Wabbit season! Duck season! WABBIT season! DUCK season! BLAM!!! Old classics should never be altered. Interesting that you should say that. We have several Looney tunes compilations. At the introduction is none other than Whoopie Goldberg. She comments that the Looney Tunes cartoons are being presented unedited despite the things in them that are racist or otherwise offensive. She explains that the portrayals were wrong then and wrong now, but to simply cut them out is to ignore facets of our history that if ignored, can be more easily repeated. I commented on the premise that the classics were funny as all hell and that altering them to be politically correct would be asinine and not as funny. Look at the movies... Just because you can do a remake doesn't mean it's going to be better than the original, and it rarely is. Yeah, but Mickey Mouse cartoons are nowhere near as good as Looney Tunes/ Merrie Melodies so it doesn't really matter as much.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #19 October 12, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Well I certainly hope they don't touch any of the Looney Tunes shorts! It's wabbit season! No it's duck season! Wabbit season! Duck season! WABBIT season! DUCK season! BLAM!!! Old classics should never be altered. Interesting that you should say that. We have several Looney tunes compilations. At the introduction is none other than Whoopie Goldberg. She comments that the Looney Tunes cartoons are being presented unedited despite the things in them that are racist or otherwise offensive. She explains that the portrayals were wrong then and wrong now, but to simply cut them out is to ignore facets of our history that if ignored, can be more easily repeated. I commented on the premise that the classics were funny as all hell and that altering them to be politically correct would be asinine and not as funny. Look at the movies... Just because you can do a remake doesn't mean it's going to be better than the original, and it rarely is. Yeah, but Mickey Mouse cartoons are nowhere near as good as Looney Tunes/ Merrie Melodies so it doesn't really matter as much. That's true. Good point there. Disney stuff are for little kids. LT and MM stuff are more appreciable by older kids and adults who grew up on them, not to mention Tom and Jerry as well. Violent cartoons are great fun! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #20 October 12, 2011 QuoteWe have several Looney tunes compilations. At the introduction is none other than Whoopie Goldberg. She comments that the Looney Tunes cartoons are being presented unedited despite the things in them that are racist or otherwise offensive. She explains that the portrayals were wrong then and wrong now, but to simply cut them out is to ignore facets of our history that if ignored, can be more easily repeated. Yep. The issue as I see it is not the right of artists to use their artistic freedom to alter their own works or update them. They can do that if they want. What I find distasteful is the altering of a work because of political correctness. Would people prefer that "Huck Finn" be altered to remove the character Nigger Jim, or should we leave it as is so that future generations will be able to understand what things were like at that time in history? Should we re-write "Catcher in the Rye" to clean it up without all that sex, cussing, smoking and drinking? Should we leave Milton's "Paradise Lost" as is so that we can appreciate a 350-year-old classic poem, or should we update it for the 21st century and insert lots of dragons, magic crystals and kung-fu fighting? Give Mickey Mouse back his shotgun, and leave history alone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,647 #21 October 12, 2011 Quote Give Mickey Mouse back his shotgun, and leave history alone. Not your decision to make.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #22 October 13, 2011 Quote Old classics should never be altered. Why not? Beethoven rewrote one of his overtures three times. Wasn't that slightly before it became an old classic?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 19 #23 October 13, 2011 QuoteNews:Disney Channel Edits Out Gun From 1938 Mickey Mouse Cartoon "One morning recently my kids were watching the Disney Channel when they featured an old Mickey Mouse classic called ‘Mickey’s Parrot‘ which was originally released back on September 09, 1938. In this episode, a parrot belonging to an escaped killer wanders into Mickey’s basement. Mickey hears it talking and thinks that the parrot is the killer who is on the loose who he just heard about on the radio. Mickey then goes and grabs his double barreled shotgun off of the wall and prepares to defend himself. Well, wouldn’t you know it… in the version they presented on the Disney Channel the other day, they had digitally removed the shotgun and replaced it with a broom. Yes, Mickey grabbed a broom off of the gun rack, shouldered it, and prepared to defend himself with his handy, dandy tactical… broom..."Full story: Ammoland Hi JR, Disney probably gave the gun to Elmer Fudd!!SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #24 October 13, 2011 QuoteDisney probably gave the gun to Elmer Fudd!! And they'll be coming for Fudd's gun next. We can't have kids growing up thinking it's okay to shoot little fuzzy bunny wabbits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #25 October 13, 2011 LMFAO No way! Are you serious??? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
