billvon 2,476 #1 August 9, 2010 Hot on the heels of conservatives denying evolution and global warming, we have the latest salvo fired against a liberal science target - that confusing and depressing theory of relativity, scourge of conservative schoolchildren everywhere. Excerpted from Conservapedia, the Trustworthy Encyclopedia (tm) - ======================= The theory of relativity is a mathematical system that allows no exceptions. It is heavily promoted by liberals who like its encouragement of relativism and its tendency to mislead people in how they view the world. Here is a list of 24 counterexamples: any one of them shows that the theory is incorrect. - The discontinuity in momentum as velocity approaches "c" for infinitesimal mass, compared to the momentum of light. - The logical problem of a force which is applied at a right angle to the velocity of a relativistic mass - does this act on the rest mass or the relativistic mass? - The universe shortly after its creation, when quantum effects dominated and contradicted Relativity. . . . . - The action-at-a-distance of quantum entanglement. - The action-at-a-distance by Jesus, described in John 4:46-54. ======================= Up next - the grassroots effort by the Tea Partyers to repeal the Second Law of Thermodynamics, which is used by secular humanists and activist judges to depress and confuse children throughout the world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #2 August 9, 2010 Link please? I have GOT to read this drivel. Edited to add Found it; http://www.conservapedia.com/Relativityquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,476 #3 August 10, 2010 http://conservapedia.com/Counterexamples_to_Relativity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,371 #4 August 10, 2010 QuoteLink please? I have GOT to read this drivel. Edited to add Found it; http://www.conservapedia.com/Relativity You beat me to it (Google had it up as the first suggestion after I got to "conser"). This quote is one I found rather amusing. "Some liberal politicians have extrapolated the theory of relativity to metaphorically justify their own political agendas. For example, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama helped publish an article by liberal law professor Laurence Tribe to apply the relativistic concept of "curvature of space" to promote a broad legal right to abortion.[45] As of June 2008, over 170 law review articles have cited this liberal application of the theory of relativity to legal arguments.[46] Applications of the theory of relativity to change morality have also been common.[47] Moreover, there is an unmistakable effort to censor or ostracize criticism of relativity""There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #5 August 10, 2010 What a bunch of fuckin' luddites. I swear we're going back to the stone age.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #6 August 10, 2010 QuoteWhat a bunch of fuckin' luddites. I swear we're going back to the stone age. Philistine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #7 August 10, 2010 Wait a minute...where are they from? They must be the great-great-great grandkids from this group: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill I guess that there is some comfort in the fact that while people might change, science doesn't.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,683 #8 August 10, 2010 It's a good job we allow immigration. If we relied on US educated folks from red states to carry us through the 21st Century we'd be sunk. I wonder what the conservatives make of quantum mechanics? Oh - found it. Quantum mechanics requires the existence of a soul.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #9 August 10, 2010 QuoteIt's a good job we allow immigration. If we relied on US educated folks from red states to carry us through the 21st Century we'd be sunk. I wonder what the conservatives make of quantum mechanics? Oh - found it. Quantum mechanics requires the existence of a soul. You should go back and read what Carl Segan had written about souls and quantum Mech.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,683 #10 August 10, 2010 Quote Quote It's a good job we allow immigration. If we relied on US educated folks from red states to carry us through the 21st Century we'd be sunk. I wonder what the conservatives make of quantum mechanics? Oh - found it. Quantum mechanics requires the existence of a soul. You should go back and read what Carl Segan had written about souls and quantum Mech. Indeed - Sagan exhorted us to be sceptical thinkers.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #11 August 10, 2010 Quote Quote Quote It's a good job we allow immigration. If we relied on US educated folks from red states to carry us through the 21st Century we'd be sunk. I wonder what the conservatives make of quantum mechanics? Oh - found it. Quantum mechanics requires the existence of a soul. You should go back and read what Carl Segan had written about souls and quantum Mech. Indeed - Sagan exhorted us to be sceptical thinkers. I agree, but he also was of the mind set that there might just be design behind it all. He mentioned that there were just too many variables to fathom that they all had to be in exactly the right place at the right time for it all to work.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,683 #12 August 10, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote It's a good job we allow immigration. If we relied on US educated folks from red states to carry us through the 21st Century we'd be sunk. I wonder what the conservatives make of quantum mechanics? Oh - found it. Quantum mechanics requires the existence of a soul. You should go back and read what Carl Segan had written about souls and quantum Mech. Indeed - Sagan exhorted us to be sceptical thinkers. I agree, but he also was of the mind set that there might just be design behind it all. He mentioned that there were just too many variables to fathom that they all had to be in exactly the right place at the right time for it all to work. He also pointed out very forcefully that although he had an open mind, in the absence of any evidence whatsoever, he was not convinced.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #13 August 10, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote It's a good job we allow immigration. If we relied on US educated folks from red states to carry us through the 21st Century we'd be sunk. I wonder what the conservatives make of quantum mechanics? Oh - found it. Quantum mechanics requires the existence of a soul. You should go back and read what Carl Segan had written about souls and quantum Mech. Indeed - Sagan exhorted us to be sceptical thinkers. I agree, but he also was of the mind set that there might just be design behind it all. He mentioned that there were just too many variables to fathom that they all had to be in exactly the right place at the right time for it all to work. He also pointed out very forcefully that although he had an open mind, in the absence of any evidence whatsoever, he was not convinced. It's th open mind that should be paid more attention to on both sides.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #14 August 10, 2010 QuoteIt's a good job we allow immigration. If we relied on US educated folks from red states to carry us through the 21st Century we'd be sunk. My relatives live in a red state and I wouldn't vote for ANY of them...open minded or not.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #15 August 10, 2010 QuoteQuoteIt's a good job we allow immigration. If we relied on US educated folks from red states to carry us through the 21st Century we'd be sunk. My relatives live in a red state and I wouldn't vote for ANY of them...open minded or not. Amen to that. I can only take visiting them for a few days every few years. It like going to a third world country and observing the interesing rituals in a tribal society. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,371 #16 August 10, 2010 Quote What a bunch of fuckin' luddites. I swear we're going back to the stone age. No. These idiots have always been out there. They just have a better way of getting their message out now that there is an internet. The same point was made in the 9/11 truther thread recently. Some of them are so convinced that evolution doesn't happen. I gotta admit that many of them seem to prove that Darwin was wrong."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #17 August 10, 2010 Quote Quote What a bunch of fuckin' luddites. I swear we're going back to the stone age. No. These idiots have always been out there. They just have a better way of getting their message out now that there is an internet. The same point was made in the 9/11 truther thread recently. Some of them are so convinced that evolution doesn't happen. I gotta admit that many of them seem to prove that Darwin was wrong. They may very well prove devolution.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #18 August 10, 2010 QuoteQuoteWhat a bunch of fuckin' luddites. I swear we're going back to the stone age. No. These idiots have always been out there. They just have a better way of getting their message out now that there is an internet. Ironic, ain't it? Using technology to get the message out that technology will be our downfall."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #19 September 11, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhat a bunch of fuckin' luddites. I swear we're going back to the stone age. No. These idiots have always been out there. They just have a better way of getting their message out now that there is an internet. Ironic, ain't it? Using technology to get the message out that technology will be our downfall. The Jihadis are the same way. Technology is "un-islamic", except where it serves their ends. mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #20 September 11, 2010 QuoteHot on the heels of conservatives denying evolution and global warming, How about the complete destruction of 3 steel framed structures 9 years ago today. You seem quite happy to ignore Newton's laws of motion; in particular his third. QuoteThe mutual forces of action and reaction between two bodies are equal, opposite and collinear. This means that whenever a first body exerts a force F on a second body, the second body exerts a force −F on the first body. F and −F are equal in magnitude and opposite in direction. This law is sometimes referred to as the action-reaction law, with F called the "action" and −F the "reaction". Bearing this law in mind, would render the comlete destruction of at least the two main towers by the reason you seem to quite happy with; impossible. let along the abundance of discovered incendiaries and their reminents of them that you are quite willing to ignore. The equal and opposite force would have disintergrated the upper, portion of the buliding before they could get anywhere near the ground. I am with you 100% with the basis of this thread but I find it quite hypocritical that you can openly ignore such well know theory, while ridiculing others for doing the same. You are more intellegent than that. It is about time you were honest with yourself."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,476 #21 September 11, 2010 >You seem quite happy to ignore Newton's laws of motion; Are you saying the buildings went up or something? The collapses were veritable demonstrations of the laws of motion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,280 #22 September 11, 2010 QuoteHow about the complete destruction of 3 steel framed structures 9 years ago today. You seem quite happy to ignore Newton's laws of motion; in particular his third. The collapse of the Towers contravenes Newtons third law of motion in the same way that evolution contravenes the second law of thermodynamics. That is to say, they don't, but it's an impressive sounding argument to use on the ignorant.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #23 September 11, 2010 Even midgets can stand on the shoulders of giants.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #24 September 11, 2010 QuoteAre you saying the buildings went up or something? The collapses were veritable demonstrations of the laws of motion. I am not going to hijack your thread, but I KNOW you know exactly what I am talking about. Unpecedented occuarance palmed of as expected occurances is pure lies. I'll leve you to it."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #25 September 13, 2010 sam walton was from a red state , as for knowing what rhys is talking about , does anyone ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites