Obama Liar Liar

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what????
It was so quiet I could hardly hear you
I am pretty sure when President Bush was critisized we stood up and held our ground.

Because we were right!!!
Get it right...as in wing oh I still got it....

Bush was a Twit . . . BUT he is STILL no longer the president.

How long does it take to let all that sink in?

I think Carter still gets bashed now and again- I know Nixon does - Maybe Bush Bashing will be a sport for ever.

I say it again - he was a Twit of a President, but I get tired of hearing about it.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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Oh
And it has gotta suck to be an Obama supporter now

We'll see if Amazon still supports Obama after he takes her guns away.

Cling to your guns Amazon!!!! CLING!!!!!

Sorry but I have it on good authority that anyone that believes that the Obama Administration is out to "take away our guns" or that he is not an American because he was born in Kenya.... or is secretly a muslim and on and on and on... as a scare tactic.... Is just GOAT FUCK STUPID.

Fer chrissake people get a fucking brain...instead of getting all of your daily scared and scurrying little thoughts off the BIG FAT BUG Brain at LUSHRIMJOB.COM

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what????
It was so quiet I could hardly hear you
I am pretty sure when President Bush was critisized we stood up and held our ground.

Because we were right!!!
Get it right...as in wing oh I still got it....

Bush was a Twit . . . BUT he is STILL no longer the president.

How long does it take to let all that sink in?

I think Carter still gets bashed now and again- I know Nixon does - Maybe Bush Bashing will be a sport for ever.

I say it again - he was a Twit of a President, but I get tired of hearing about it.

ONly because you got fooled into voting for the moron.

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what????
It was so quiet I could hardly hear you
I am pretty sure when President Bush was critisized we stood up and held our ground.

Because we were right!!!
Get it right...as in wing oh I still got it....

Bush was a Twit . . . BUT he is STILL no longer the president.

How long does it take to let all that sink in?

I think Carter still gets bashed now and again- I know Nixon does - Maybe Bush Bashing will be a sport for ever.

I say it again - he was a Twit of a President, but I get tired of hearing about it.

ONly because you got fooled into voting for the moron.

You assume so much.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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Right how safe would we have been had a lib been taking care of us?

and if oblamo was in when 9-11 happened he would have opologized for making them mad wouldn't he???
You know that is his M O...
Talk about lame, you can't even realize when your ass is safe enough to be silly, who was our President when we needed to be kept safe.
President Bush kept us safe...Admit it...or are you too lame?

tom #90 #54 #08 and now #5 with a Bronze :-)

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Right how safe would we have been had a lib been taking care of us?

and if oblamo was in when 9-11 happened he would have opologized for making them mad wouldn't he???
You know that is his M O...
Talk about lame, you can't even realize when your ass is safe enough to be silly, who was our President when we needed to be kept safe.
President Bush kept us safe...Admit it...or are you too lame?

WHAT?

Nooooo - He would have been looking for whoever it was that needed an Ass kicking!

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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R u sure???
did you even watch what stewart said and showed us?
There must b some doubt creeping in...
Surely,

tom #90 #54 #08 and now #5 with a Bronze :-)

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Right how safe would we have been had a lib been taking care of us?

and if oblamo was in when 9-11 happened he would have opologized for making them mad wouldn't he???
You know that is his M O...
Talk about lame, you can't even realize when your ass is safe enough to be silly, who was our President when we needed to be kept safe.
President Bush kept us safe...Admit it...or are you too lame?

If the USA was attacked on Obama's watch, and then we attacked a nation that had nothing to do with the initial attack...wow...Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck and the rest of the nut jobs would have had a field day. Think about it. GWB let us get wrecked by a handfull of terrorists ON HIS WATCH and then broke the bank attacking a guy that had nothing to do with anything. I understand why people dislike Obama, but geeze, get some facts straight on Bush.
Kept us safe my ass...

[loudtom 5]

What don't you get about the U.N., as a governing body for the world, asking for and getting military intervention in what at the time, everyone considered a very dangerous situation. Every free country in the world ponied up for the vote but din't bring a thing to the table, just like in N. Korea, et al...
So, I want to get this straight. You would rather have things the way they were in Iraq than the way it has a chance to be now? Is that right?

tom #90 #54 #08 and now #5 with a Bronze :-)

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You're mixing apples and oranges. Iraq/Bush keeping us safe has nothing to do with each other.

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You're mixing apples and oranges. Iraq/Bush keeping us safe has nothing to do with each other.

A show of force can be a powerful deterrent for all, not just the ones the force is being used against.

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

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George Washington said, and I presume a lot when I expect grimmie to acknowledge our first president, "There is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well-prepared to meet an enemy." Showing force and a willingness to use force when called on by most of the world would go a long way to show the world that it would be unwise to continue to provoke us. If you want to be a pacifist go to France. Or England where they let citizens spit on the military returning from a government sactioned deployment. If that does not turn your stomach you deserve what you get in the long run with your ideology.
Grimmie didn't answer the question about whether or not he would rather have Iraq as it was...why not?

tom #90 #54 #08 and now #5 with a Bronze :-)

[billvon 2,406]

>Right how safe would we have been had a lib been taking care of us?

Well, going purely by factual history, Bush had a pretty lousy record of "taking care of us" given that the worst terrorist attack in US history took place under his leadership - and we lost thousands of US servicemen to a war that turned out to be based on a completely false premise.

(Of course, Obama's presidency isn't close to being over; he might do the same. But the bar is pretty low here.)

>and if oblamo was in when 9-11 happened he would have opologized for
>making them mad wouldn't he?

So far this goaround it seems like it's the GOP who is apologizing. One recently apologized to BP for the fallout of their spill.

>President Bush kept us safe...

I wouldn't call allowing 9/11 to happen "keeping us safe."

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I wouldn't call allowing 9/11 to happen "keeping us safe."

Using that as a standard we should also blame Obama for the financial mess. Of course we both know neither is true.

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Well, going purely by factual history, Bush had a pretty lousy record of "taking care of us" given that the worst terrorist attack in US history took place under his leadership

ok... I'm not a bush defender. Not by any stretch.

But for anyone to put the blame for the 9/11 attacks squarely on Bush's shoulders, and then blame him for the mess that Obama inherited, is rather inconsistent.

Isn't all of this happening on President Obama's watch?

Let's at least pretend to be consistent?

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I wouldn't call allowing 9/11 to happen "keeping us safe."

Using that as a standard we should also blame Obama for the financial mess. Of course we both know neither is true.

Not to mention the oil spill

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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I wouldn't call allowing 9/11 to happen "keeping us safe."

Using that as a standard we should also blame Obama for the financial mess. Of course we both know neither is true.

. . . and why did Obama let the oil spill happen?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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I wouldn't call allowing 9/11 to happen "keeping us safe."

Using that as a standard we should also blame Obama for the financial mess. Of course we both know neither is true.

. . . and why did Obama let the oil spill happen?

Let me take a stab at this one....

because he's a black Muslim and he hates America?

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I wouldn't call allowing 9/11 to happen "keeping us safe."

Using that as a standard we should also blame Obama for the financial mess. Of course we both know neither is true.

. . . and why did Obama let the oil spill happen?

Let me take a stab at this one....

because he's a black Muslim and he hates America?

Wow - you really go off topic even when the answer is in the text you quoted.
It was rhetorical, but hey, if that is your guess, I suppose you have a right to your opinion.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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I wouldn't call allowing 9/11 to happen "keeping us safe."

Using that as a standard we should also blame Obama for the financial mess. Of course we both know neither is true.

. . . and why did Obama let the oil spill happen?

Let me take a stab at this one....

because he's a black Muslim and he hates America?

Wow - you really go off topic even when the answer is in the text you quoted.
It was rhetorical, but hey, if that is your guess, I suppose you have a right to your opinion.

So that wasn't the right answer....darn.

Maybe I'll get it right next time...

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I wouldn't call allowing 9/11 to happen "keeping us safe."

Using that as a standard we should also blame Obama for the financial mess. Of course we both know neither is true.

. . . and why did Obama let the oil spill happen?

Let me take a stab at this one....

because he's a black Muslim and he hates America?

Wow - you really go off topic even when the answer is in the text you quoted.
It was rhetorical, but hey, if that is your guess, I suppose you have a right to your opinion.

So that wasn't the right answer....darn.

Maybe I'll get it right next time...

It's right if that is what you believe.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[billvon 2,406]

>But for anyone to put the blame for the 9/11 attacks squarely on Bush's shoulders

?? Who is doing that? I'm not. It was no more his fault than the economy or the spill was Obama's.

But if the standard was "taking care of us" then Bush didn't do a good job on that. And if Obama was touted us as "keeping our beaches oil free" or "fixing the economy on day one" then he would be (rightly) accused of not doing a very good job on those fronts.

(BTW I don't think it's a president's #1 job to "take care of us," it's more to be a head of state and be an intermediate check/balance on the legislature.)

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wasn't directed squarely at you bill.

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wasn't directed squarely at you bill.

Was it more of a "Royal" you?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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George Washington said, and I presume a lot when I expect grimmie to acknowledge our first president, "There is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well-prepared to meet an enemy." Showing force and a willingness to use force when called on by most of the world would go a long way to show the world that it would be unwise to continue to provoke us. If you want to be a pacifist go to France. Or England where they let citizens spit on the military returning from a government sactioned deployment. If that does not turn your stomach you deserve what you get in the long run with your ideology.
Grimmie didn't answer the question about whether or not he would rather have Iraq as it was...why not?

Showing force in this day and age has nothing to do with keeping us safe. This isn't the WWII era. Terrorists could give a rats ass how many carrier groups, infantry soldiers, attack helicopters or tanks we have. That was proven twice at the World Trade Center, in Oklahoma City and recently again in NY City. Steam across the oceans all you want with all our might, it isn't going to scare our current enemies.

And to answer your question about Iraq. I wish we never kicked that hornets nest. I'm no pacifist. But I believe if you have the most powerful military iun the world, you should use it wisely.
Before the invasion I asked some of my friends that were all for getting Saddam a couple of questions.
What if we don't find any weapons?
When we capture/kill Saddam, then who will be in power?
What do we do with Iraq when it is "liberated"?

We really screwed the pooch on Iraq. We put 100,000 military men out of work. We didn't guard all of the ammo depots. We ruined the economy.

Just think what would happen if that was you in an Iraqi's pair of shoes. Would you be better off now, or then?