Iran election results fraudulent, People are getting killed on the streets. All media and communications are down.
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Darius11, in Speakers Corner
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skybill 18
QuoteThis may be the worlds first cyber revolution.
The under educated have been in power for 30 years and the educated types have finally found their feet.
Hi Shah,
10-4 on that!! 'Just hope they don't slip and fall!!
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>BHO said a lot about democracy when he was in Cairo . . .
Right. And democracy means accepting the decisions of the people of a country even if we disagree with those choices. Democracy is not "death to all who oppose us."
>Looks like they counted a lot a paper votes in a short time.
Yep. We count our votes in mere hours.
>Where is Jimmy Carter?
Meeting with Hamas, trying to help in Israel.
>Do you really think there was no outside influence in our latest election?
?? There was a huge outside influence in our latest election. We live in a world populated by trading partners, potential enemies, potential allies and dwindling resources. You'd have to be pretty dumb to ignore all that when you vote.
Right. And democracy means accepting the decisions of the people of a country even if we disagree with those choices. Democracy is not "death to all who oppose us."
>Looks like they counted a lot a paper votes in a short time.
Yep. We count our votes in mere hours.
>Where is Jimmy Carter?
Meeting with Hamas, trying to help in Israel.
>Do you really think there was no outside influence in our latest election?
?? There was a huge outside influence in our latest election. We live in a world populated by trading partners, potential enemies, potential allies and dwindling resources. You'd have to be pretty dumb to ignore all that when you vote.
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Looks like they counted a lot a paper votes in a short time.
There also appear to be some unusual statistical aspects, i.e., perhaps too perfect statistics in the election. It's still being speculated on tho'.
My sister pointed out that if you want to rig an election, it's usually a good idea to let the opposition win his home town.
QuoteI also have not agreed with many of your posts, but I sympathize with you the plight of the Iranian opposition and their struggle. It's hard for me to understand why BHO won't say anymore than he will not meddle,
Well, the most likely outcome remains that the current guy will stay in charge. This is the guy that keeps threatening the world and pursuing nukes and hosting holocaust denial parties. Obama has decided to change our approach and work the diplomatic angle. Given that, it would be a bit awkward for him to declare the election bogus and insist he step down. That's only a good move if you expect the opposition to prevail.
QuoteThe country has been run by a bunch of red necks who think they speak to god and long for the "good old days of 1555".
I think the ruling elite of Iran are perfectly well educated. They just pander to the uneducated to maintain their position of luxury and power.
shah269 0
QuoteQuoteThe country has been run by a bunch of red necks who think they speak to god and long for the "good old days of 1555".
I think the ruling elite of Iran are perfectly well educated. They just pander to the uneducated to maintain their position of luxury and power.
Well......I would argue that point by saying that any leader who relies on the divine for direction instead of facts is undereducated.
All of the leaders in the Guardian Council graduated for religious instructions. Mr. I’madonkylickingarab barely graduated from Tehran University.
Thanks but no thank! The 1550’s were fun and all…..but this freedom of speech thing is just too much fun.
Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.
The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!
The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!
Darius11 12
QuoteI think the ruling elite of Iran are perfectly well educated.
There not, thery just have the guns.
I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain
QuoteIt's hard for me to understand why BHO won't say anymore than he will not meddle, but too many times we have given false hopes to people fighting for change only to have them crushed without our help. Guess I answered my own question. Good luck.
He's probably also noticed that, historically, any time the US chastises Iran for something or an American political group decides to start singing "Bomb Iran" songs, it gives ammunition to the hardliners in Iran. All they have to do at that point is say "See! The Americans are on the side of the reformists. They're once again trying to meddle in the affairs of the Iranian people!" This gives lots of Iranians flashbacks to the days of the Shah as well as appeals to their Iranian sense of patriotism/nationalism, leading to most of them falling back in line behind the government. So the best thing for us to do is to remember that this proto-revolution isn't about us and that we need to let the Iranian people determine their own fate.
riddler 0
QuoteIt's hard for me to understand why BHO won't say anymore than he will not meddle
What's there to talk about? Iran doesn't pose a direct threat to the U.S. We don't have any evidence they are planning to attack us, or would be capable of doing so. Why should we do anything?
The U.S. is not the world police. And we can't invade every country that doesn't agree with our ideals. That philosophy went out with W, thank God. We have a responsibility to protect OUR citizens and OUR borders. Period.
Who cares if they rigged an election? Many other governments have done that.
Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD
TomAiello 25
QuoteWho cares if they rigged an election? Many other governments have done that.
And many more don't even bother to hold them.
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