feuergnom 22 #1 January 10, 2009 so far, there's been a lot of talk on american "homeland security". but what is going on in merry old england clicky isn't bad either The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #2 January 10, 2009 Quote so far, there's been a lot of talk on american "homeland security". but what is going on in merry old england isn't bad either Don't you mean "isn't good"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 22 #3 January 10, 2009 this was my feebl attempt as a non-native speaker to add some sarcasm. i guess it didn't work to good, did it? btw: is there a new fashion regarding avatars?The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #4 January 11, 2009 Quote this was my feebl attempt as a non-native speaker to add some sarcasm. i guess it didn't work to good, did it? btw: is there a new fashion regarding avatars? There is some sad shit happeining over here but, man, I read about this, and the cameras and past shit and we all know (not just over there) there is more coming. I just have to wonder, even though it is being done a chunk at a time, when are we the people going to look at our governments and say, "thats it, your fucking done?" I glad we got the multi million count of weapons in the private sector over here. Some day, they may come in handyI hope it never comes to that>"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #5 January 11, 2009 Quotebtw: is there a new fashion regarding avatars? Sure, all us cool people are sporting ancient family crests. Here's yours: http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/hauser-family-crest.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #6 January 11, 2009 QuoteQuotebtw: is there a new fashion regarding avatars? Sure, all us cool people are sporting ancient family crests. Here's yours: http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/hauser-family-crest.htm Really? I thought it was this: http://www.tjaymark.com/current%20coloring/CASPER.gif Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #7 January 11, 2009 Quote btw: is there a new fashion regarding avatars? Yes there is.. get with the program already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #8 January 11, 2009 Having applied for RIPA authority a number of times it's not easy. I've only had it authorised once and that wasn't 'directed surveillance'. E-mail traffic wont be stored for review either. There will be no database. It will be a specific interception of a targets e-mail traffic. Average Joe won't be affected at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #9 January 11, 2009 What Scoop Sez! It's basically a move to allow eMail interception to be authorised by a Chief Constable, rather than a judge. The idea is that it can be done (to a target criminal) quicker. It'll make no difference to almost everyone in the UK... Unless you want to buy a battery for your Rolex, or discuss how to Kill Bush! It's the same with the street cameras, since most of us don't go around flashing or mugging, the cameras aren't noticed.Same with speed cameras... Those of us who don't drive around at Mach-2 aren't affected. Those who do ARE! I appreciate that there's the whole; "First they came for..." Thing, But I don't recall the poem including; "First they came for the criminals, and I did nothing, for I wasn't a criminal."Mike/ Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #10 January 11, 2009 It seems to me there might be a market for electronic "once only" pads that spooks used to use during the cold war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #11 January 11, 2009 UYhgfs67 huiujh011 BOMB o90'#'11 Downing St uihbag67 ojkbns76t ^ ll - wankers (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #12 January 11, 2009 The naivete here is the presumption that e-mail isn't already routinely archived. Silly sheep. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfc 0 #13 January 12, 2009 Quote so far, there's been a lot of talk on american "homeland security". but what is going on in merry old england clicky isn't bad either No not all, the contents are not stored, just the details that it was sent/received and who the recipient and sender were. I'd be amazed if there were not programs that scanned email in the USA and other countries, if you could dig into the bush secret executive orders i'm sure you'd find one ordering it, they have publicly state they bug international phone calls, emails would be just an extension of this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #14 January 12, 2009 It might be worth realising 'Big Brother' can and will access your hard drive whenever you're online, if he so wishes. So I wouldn't worry about your e-mails. . . 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #15 January 12, 2009 QuoteIt might be worth realising 'Big Brother' can and will access your hard drive whenever you're online, if he so wishes. Maybe he can access your's. Mine, boring as it is, is safe. People in the UK can all discover the beauty of PGP, and the fun of sending large tarballs back and forth to keep their nosy inspectors busy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rasmack 0 #16 January 12, 2009 Cool, so if I accidentally delete an email. Who do I ask to resend it to me? HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #17 January 12, 2009 [email protected]When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #18 January 12, 2009 Is that a bit of blade slap I can hear from the black helicopters shortly to be arriving at your location....!? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #19 January 12, 2009 Quote Quote It might be worth realising 'Big Brother' can and will access your hard drive whenever you're online, if he so wishes. Maybe he can access your's. Mine, boring as it is, is safe. Is it? I'm referring to your hard drive, not e-mails. But why on earth encrypt your e-mails for others to then have to decrypt if you've nothing to hide? Besides, PGP is breakable. If you want an unbreakable method, used since WWII, use a OTP. Quote People in the UK can all discover the beauty of PGP, and the fun of sending large tarballs back and forth to keep their nosy inspectors busy. Sounds like hours of fun. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #20 January 12, 2009 Quote The naivete here is the presumption that e-mail isn't already routinely archived. Silly sheep. We are just a poor humble island. Working for 'the man' we don't even have a stationary store in our office, thats how ill equipped we are! The thought of a room full of banks of hard drives and servers intercepting emails is quite amusing. They can't even get the voicemail to work here! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #21 January 12, 2009 Quote Is it? I'm referring to your hard drive, not e-mails. Yes, and that's why I said it was safe. It's possible to be online and not be reachable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
