GWB: "..his head held high.."

[christelsabine 1]

Mission accomplished?

Or why to state (t)his public regret right now, few weeks before leaving the Oval Office?

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977523447&grpId=3659174697244816&nav=Groupspace

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[billvon 2,435]

Good for him. Admitting your mistakes (or in his case almost admitting them) is the first step in making sure you don't make more of them in the future.

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Good for him. Admitting your mistakes (or in his case almost admitting them) is the first step in making sure you don't make more of them in the future.

Well, in GWB's case he only has a "future" to do anything of the sort for a bit less than two months. A little late in the game for me to give him any "credit" here.

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Mission accomplished?

Or why to state (t)his public regret right now, few weeks before leaving the Oval Office?

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977523447&grpId=3659174697244816&nav=Groupspace

i think the jury is still out in Iraq and wont know the true results for years to come. yes there were mistakes but it can stioll have a positive outcome.

As far as Katrina goes, laying a natural disaster or the incompitence of the local government on Bush is definately wrong. the federal government saved more people and transported more supplies in a shorter amount of time than in any other natural disaster. how can you blame Bush for the local government not evacuating when they had been told they should? or not reporting the levee brakes to the federal government and asking for help?

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how can you blame Bush for the local government not evacuating when they had been told they should? or not reporting the levee brakes to the federal government and asking for help?

Because the mayor and gov. were dems. That exempts them from blame from the left.

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As far as Katrina goes, laying a natural disaster or the incompitence of the local government on Bush is definately wrong. the federal government saved more people and transported more supplies in a shorter amount of time than in any other natural disaster. how can you blame Bush for the local government not evacuating when they had been told they should? or not reporting the levee brakes to the federal government and asking for help?

Has it been long enough that we now can lie about the incompetence of FEMA and it's leader, in handling that event?

Apparently.

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Mission accomplished?

Or why to state (t)his public regret right now, few weeks before leaving the Oval Office?

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977523447&grpId=3659174697244816&nav=Groupspace

i think the jury is still out in Iraq and wont know the true results for years to come.

NONSENSE - the war was started under false pretenses, there is absolutely no doubt about that.

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Mission accomplished?

Or why to state (t)his public regret right now, few weeks before leaving the Oval Office?

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977523447&grpId=3659174697244816&nav=Groupspace

i think the jury is still out in Iraq and wont know the true results for years to come.

NONSENSE - the war was started under false pretenses, there is absolutely no doubt about that.

i don't think i was commenting on the cause of the war but the end result.

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As far as Katrina goes, laying a natural disaster or the incompitence of the local government on Bush is definately wrong. the federal government saved more people and transported more supplies in a shorter amount of time than in any other natural disaster. how can you blame Bush for the local government not evacuating when they had been told they should? or not reporting the levee brakes to the federal government and asking for help?

Has it been long enough that we now can lie about the incompetence of FEMA and it's leader, in handling that event?

Apparently.

why do people insist on blaming the 2nd 3rd or 4th person down the line? lets put the blame on the first person, like the fucktard that didn't order the evacuation, or the liar that said the levees were ok?

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how can you blame Bush for the local government not evacuating when they had been told they should? or not reporting the levee brakes to the federal government and asking for help?

Because the mayor and gov. were dems. That exempts them from blame from the left.

sorry my fault, i guess i just can't covert to stupid thinking.

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Mission accomplished?

Or why to state (t)his public regret right now, few weeks before leaving the Oval Office?

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977523447&grpId=3659174697244816&nav=Groupspace

i think the jury is still out in Iraq and wont know the true results for years to come.

NONSENSE - the war was started under false pretenses, there is absolutely no doubt about that.

i don't think i was commenting on the cause of the war but the end result.

Mussolini made the trains run on time and Hitler was nice to dogs, but that didn't excuse their behavior either.

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Mission accomplished?

Or why to state (t)his public regret right now, few weeks before leaving the Oval Office?

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977523447&grpId=3659174697244816&nav=Groupspace

i think the jury is still out in Iraq and wont know the true results for years to come.

NONSENSE - the war was started under false pretenses, there is absolutely no doubt about that.

i don't think i was commenting on the cause of the war but the end result.

Mussolini made the trains run on time and Hitler was nice to dogs, but that didn't excuse their behavior either.

? this is a new spin, to where i have no idea, but it is new.

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Mission accomplished?

Or why to state (t)his public regret right now, few weeks before leaving the Oval Office?

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977523447&grpId=3659174697244816&nav=Groupspace

i think the jury is still out in Iraq and wont know the true results for years to come.

NONSENSE - the war was started under false pretenses, there is absolutely no doubt about that.

i don't think i was commenting on the cause of the war but the end result.

Mussolini made the trains run on time and Hitler was nice to dogs, but that didn't excuse their behavior either.

? this is a new spin, to where i have no idea, but it is new.

Think about it.

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As far as Katrina goes, laying a natural disaster or the incompitence of the local government on Bush is definately wrong. the federal government saved more people and transported more supplies in a shorter amount of time than in any other natural disaster. how can you blame Bush for the local government not evacuating when they had been told they should? or not reporting the levee brakes to the federal government and asking for help?

Has it been long enough that we now can lie about the incompetence of FEMA and it's leader, in handling that event?

Apparently.

why do people insist on blaming the 2nd 3rd or 4th person down the line? lets put the blame on the first person, like the fucktard that didn't order the evacuation, or the liar that said the levees were ok?

I'd rather blame the freakin' retards that built, and the retards today that rebuild, cities that are below sea level and sinking by the minute.

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And stupid ass conspiracy theorists such as myself, were ridiculed by patriotic americans when in late 2002/2003 were calling bullshit on WMD, calling murderer to GWB and look what happens 6 years later.....

So many of you in here were so behind the war that you couldn't make sense out of relity.

That murdering fuckwit GWB and his sidekicks should all be taken to the haugue for war crimes and punished severely.

Apathy from brainwashed americans is the main reason people like that do things such as they have.

Pull your head in people.

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As far as Katrina goes, laying a natural disaster or the incompitence of the local government on Bush is definately wrong. the federal government saved more people and transported more supplies in a shorter amount of time than in any other natural disaster. how can you blame Bush for the local government not evacuating when they had been told they should? or not reporting the levee brakes to the federal government and asking for help?

Has it been long enough that we now can lie about the incompetence of FEMA and it's leader, in handling that event?

Apparently.

why do people insist on blaming the 2nd 3rd or 4th person down the line? lets put the blame on the first person, like the fucktard that didn't order the evacuation, or the liar that said the levees were ok?

I'd rather blame the freakin' retards that built, and the retards today that rebuild, cities that are below sea level and sinking by the minute.

now you are really digging to the real cause and the liberals will have nothing to do with that. this would divert the blame from Bush and that couldn't possibly be the right thing to do.

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Has it been long enough that we now can lie about the incompetence of FEMA and it's leader, in handling that event?

Apparently.

why do people insist on blaming the 2nd 3rd or 4th person down the line? lets put the blame on the first person, like the fucktard that didn't order the evacuation, or the liar that said the levees were ok?

[kelpdiver 2]

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why do people insist on blaming the 2nd 3rd or 4th person down the line? lets put the blame on the first person, like the fucktard that didn't order the evacuation, or the liar that said the levees were ok?

The job of FEMA is to handle disasters. It doesn't matter if the disaster could have been averted - they don't choose whether or not to assist on that basis. The blame game takes place afterwards. During the crisis, you take care of business.

There's no question that FEMA failed in this.

[billvon 2,435]

>i think the jury is still out in Iraq and wont know the true results for years to come.

The second part of your statement is correct. The first part is not.

Take another example. A woman is sexually assaulted, and the criminal is caught in the act. She recovers from the experience, and manages to become a stronger person after her recovery. She sets up a center to help other women overcome their own bad experiences.

Does that mean that the criminal no longer bears any blame, because the result was a "good one?"

[masterrig 1]

To quote Oliver Hardy; "This is another fine mess you've gotten us into!" That's about all I can say about 'Dub-ya'. Now, Obama gets to clean it all up! It's not going to be an easy row to hoe.


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The job of FEMA is to handle disasters. It doesn't matter if the disaster could have been averted - they don't choose whether or not to assist on that basis. The blame game takes place afterwards. During the crisis, you take care of business.

There's no question that FEMA failed in this.

Or you could not be a dumbass and leave when you see the big fucking radar picture of a cat 5 hurricane coming.

FEMA may have failed. The problem I have is taking all of the blame and laying it on the President.

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[billvon 2,435]

>The problem I have is taking all of the blame and laying it on the President.

I agree. There is more than enough blame to go around; putting it all on the president is as foolish as putting it all on the residents.

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>The problem I have is taking all of the blame and laying it on the President.

I agree. There is more than enough blame to go around; putting it all on the president is as foolish as putting it all on the residents.

Agreed.

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[kelpdiver 2]

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FEMA may have failed. The problem I have is taking all of the blame and laying it on the President.

You can say it - FEMA *did* fail. And that's not Bush's fault. His failing is in appointing an unqualified person to head FEMA. Hopefully Obama and future Presidents will realize it's too important a position to reward friends with.

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Mission accomplished?

Or why to state (t)his public regret right now, few weeks before leaving the Oval Office?

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977523447&grpId=3659174697244816&nav=Groupspace

there's a fundamental mismatch between the title and what Bush really admits regretting. (the intelligence for the war vs. the war itself)

Regretting the WMD intelligence can still mean an endorsement of the PNAC rationale - in fact, reinforce it.

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