Butters 0 #51 August 13, 2008 Quote I wonder how many of these wonderfull "human" beings that so readily support their right to the worst kind of vengeance by taking the life of a viable human being would actually ALSO claim they are pro-life. The criminal made a choice, the fetus didn't ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #52 August 13, 2008 QuoteThe criminal made a choice, the fetus didn't ... If more women were able to make the choice... you would not have the criminal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #53 August 13, 2008 QuoteQuoteThe criminal made a choice, the fetus didn't ... If more women were able to make the choice... you would not have the criminal. I didn't know that you can tell the future. Try casting the bait a little farther ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #54 August 13, 2008 Care to tell us the background of MOST of the criminals we have in society???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #55 August 13, 2008 Lawyers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #56 August 13, 2008 Hmmm now there is a concept...Put all lawyers in prison for life......easier for them to deal with their clients. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #57 August 13, 2008 QuoteCare to tell us the background of MOST of the criminals we have in society???? So you advocate executing future criminals ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #58 August 13, 2008 Its not an execution when a mother or a family is not ready to raise a child in a VIABLE home rather than being forced to bear children they are ill prepared to PARENT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #59 August 13, 2008 QuoteIts not an execution when a mother or a family is not ready to raise a child in a VIABLE home rather than being forced to bear children they are ill prepared to PARENT. So it is an execution when a mother or a family is ready to raise a child in a VIABLE home? If it walks like a duck and quacks ... (You're familiar with the rest of the expression.)"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #60 August 13, 2008 News update:Convicted killer Leon Dorsey quietly went to his death. The twice-convicted murderer with a history of violence that included 95 disciplinary infractions since he arrived on death row eight years ago offered no resistance as Texas corrections officers led him to the death chamber Tuesday evening for lethal injection for a double slaying in Dallas in 1994. "He was executed without incident," Texas Department of Criminal Justice said. "He was escorted to the execution chamber and did not have to be forcibly taken." The U.S. Supreme Court earlier this year upheld his conviction and death sentence and no late appeals were filed to try to block Dorsey's punishment. In brief comments after he was strapped to the death chamber gurney, Dorsey said: "I love all y'all. I forgive all y'all. See y'all when you get there." Then he told prison officials: "Do what you're going to do." Nine minutes later, he was pronounced dead.http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/5940393.html No, Leon, I don't think you'll be seeing most of us in the afterlife, because we'll be going to a different place than you. And how come 81% of respondents though the Mexican deserved execution, but only 66% think that this American deserved it? They both murdered two people - the votes should be the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #61 August 13, 2008 Here's the next one coming up, tomorrow, for the bleeding heart liberals to cry about:Michael Rodriguez remembers the exhilaration of newfound freedom as he rode in the back of a stolen truck, knowing he and six of his fellow convicts had staged an improbably successful escape from a maximum security Texas prison. Then he recalls seeing his photo on national TV and grasping the reality that he and his fellow fugitives were being hunted everywhere as the killers of a suburban Dallas police officer, Aubrey Hawkins. This week, Rodriguez is set to become the first of the six surviving members of the infamous "Texas 7" — all of them now on death row — to go to the death chamber. "I'm glad we got caught, so no one else would get hurt," Rodriguez said, discussing with a reporter for the first time his involvement in the crime spree eight years ago. This week's execution, set for Thursday, is a punishment Rodriguez, 45, said he's been seeking and is welcoming. "I have a lot of people here telling me how unfair the system is," he told The Associated Press. "At some point in our lives, you have to have some sort of accountability. I can't see how people in my situation deny that." Rodriguez first went to prison with a life sentence for arranging the 1992 slaying of his wife in San Antonio.Source: Houston Chronicle Attached: photo of murdered Officer Aubrey Hawkins. It pisses me off that these news stories always show a photo of the murderer, but only rarely show a photo of the victims. I can't even find one of the murdered wife. At least this murderer has the guts to accept his fate instead of intentionally playing the system to try to stretch out his life. Oh, and for the vocal minority who want life sentences for murderers: well, this guy was already on a life sentence, just as you want. Then he escaped and murdered again. If he had been executed in the first place for the murder of his wife, then Officer Hawkins would still be alive today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,417 #62 August 13, 2008 >Attempting to save money by taking life is smply rediculous. Like I said, I don't really care if he is put to death or not. He's given up his right to life. Now the only question is - what's the cheapest way to keep him off the street so he doesn't kill anyone else? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #63 August 13, 2008 Quote If it walks like a duck and quacks ... (You're familiar with the rest of the expression.) You guys seem to speak it rather well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #64 August 13, 2008 Quote Quote If it walks like a duck and quacks ... (You're familiar with the rest of the expression.) You guys seem to speak it rather well You can't defend your arguments so you resort back to making vague comments about a vague group of people ... "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orchid 0 #65 August 13, 2008 Quotewhat's the cheapest way to keep he/them off the street so he/they doesn't kill anyone else? ...personally, prisoners/criminals here are better treated than the homeless I see on the streets. In my opinion, we should ship all criminals to third world countries, especially, Vietnam. They'll work these criminals' asses off 24/7, no a/c, non of the privileges like they have here in the US, and don't even think about sassing the prison warden...they'll either beat/shoot. We can put our tax dollars to good use like schools & teachers vs. building & maintaining prisons."Love is doing small things with great love." Lacrosse: Legally beating men with sticks since 1492 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZJ 0 #66 August 13, 2008 QuoteOh, and for the vocal minority who want life sentences for murderers: well, this guy was already on a life sentence, just as you want. Then he escaped and murdered again. If he had been executed in the first place for the murder of his wife, then Officer Hawkins would still be alive today.I'm interested that your solution is to bump a prisoner off, rather than the pretty obvious alternative of making the prison secure in the first place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnie 0 #67 August 14, 2008 I say we use them as bunker busters! Drop them out of b-52's to pierce the bunker walls,NOw i'm not saying they are going to get much penetration! But you get the point!No matter where you Go!"there you are"! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdlike 0 #68 August 14, 2008 QuoteQuoteThe criminal made a choice, the fetus didn't ... If more women were able to make the choice... you would not have the criminal. Or, randomly, you would not have the doctor, the statesman, the paramedic, the schoolteacher...Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdlike 0 #69 August 14, 2008 QuoteIts not an execution when a mother or a family is not ready to raise a child in a VIABLE home rather than being forced to bear children they are ill prepared to PARENT. If the typical unfit parent were wise enough and intelligent enough to know that he/she should not be creating a child, then he/she would probably then be able to be a fit parent. You are actually counting on the idea that unfit people would abort rather than bring about children they can't properly raise? Why aren't they doing that now? Abortion is legal!Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gemini 0 #70 August 14, 2008 Quote...unfit people would abort rather than bring about children they can't properly raise? Why aren't they doing that now? Ummhhh....they don't care, or maybe they get paid for each child in some states? Blue skies, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #71 August 14, 2008 QuoteYou are actually counting on the idea that unfit people would abort rather than bring about children they can't properly raise? Why aren't they doing that now? Abortion is legal! And essentially unavailable in MOST of the country. http://www.abortionisprolife.com/statistics.htm (6) physician shortage in many counties so that woman must travel to major cities to have an abortion (84% of all counties in the U.S. have no abortion provider, and 94% of rural counties have none), Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #72 August 14, 2008 Quote94% of rural counties have none The same could be said about neurosurgeons.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #73 August 14, 2008 QuoteAnd essentially unavailable in MOST of the country. http://www.abortionisprolife.com/statistics.htm (6) physician shortage in many counties so that woman must travel to major cities to have an abortion (84% of all counties in the U.S. have no abortion provider, and 94% of rural counties have none), The large majority of people that I see in the day to day that could have made that choice didn't so they would get that monthly check! Many times with many children with many fathers.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #74 August 14, 2008 QuoteThe large majority of people that I see in the day to day that could have made that choice didn't so they would get that monthly check! Many times with many children with many fathers. You already KNOW in a couple talks we have had how I feel about THAT kinda shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #75 August 14, 2008 Yup, I know. I just wasn't real sure how much of it you see in your day to day life. I see it every single day with a wide range of people. No racial lines, it penetrates all the different racial groups I come in contact with. The entire group is the "I want to live off the government, not work and just get drunk and/or high every day." Needless to say those kids aren't cared for very well and creates a cycle of families that refuse to contribute to society.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
