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Why are Democratic Presidential Candidates allowed to campaign from a church pulpit?

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This is only slightly related, but was anyone else a little disturbed by the fact that Romney got 94% of the Mormon vote in Nevada? It makes sense to me that he'd win a majority of them, but 94%?!



I agree that that is a very high percentage. I'd like to think Mormons don't vote for a candidate just because he is Mormon.

Every candidate has their demographics. Romney better hope that his is not just Mormons.



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This is only slightly related, but was anyone else a little disturbed by the fact that Romney got 94% of the Mormon vote in Nevada? It makes sense to me that he'd win a majority of them, but 94%?!



I agree that that is a very high percentage. I'd like to think Mormons don't vote for a candidate just because he is Mormon.

Every candidate has their demographics. Romney better hope that his is not just Mormons.


Although I am not completely clear on how the caucusing process works, I believe in Nevada it is an open process where you must declare your support to the room. With the LDS (like many conservative churches) placing a high value on conformity, it is perhaps not really so surprising.
It would be interesting to find out what Obama's support was like in the caucuses dominated by that union that supported him.

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This is only slightly related, but was anyone else a little disturbed by the fact that Romney got 94% of the Mormon vote in Nevada? It makes sense to me that he'd win a majority of them, but 94%?!



I agree that that is a very high percentage. I'd like to think Mormons don't vote for a candidate just because he is Mormon.

Every candidate has their demographics. Romney better hope that his is not just Mormons.



You would be correct. I am a Mormon and I am not voting for Romney. I more than likely will vote for Ron Paul in the primaries.
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Although I am not completely clear on how the caucusing process works, I believe in Nevada it is an open process where you must declare your support to the room. With the LDS (like many conservative churches) placing a high value on conformity, it is perhaps not really so surprising.
It would be interesting to find out what Obama's support was like in the caucuses dominated by that union that supported him.



My understanding was that the split went somewhat in Obama's favor, but not overwhelmingly. I watched the Caesar's Palace caucus on CNN, and Obama got one more state delegate than Clinton (17 v. 16) by getting 86 votes compared to Clinton's 80. It was reported that other casino caucases were similarly split, tho these do only represent those portions who were either at work or just getting on/off work. Frankly, I was suprised that Clinton got so many votes at the at large caucuses, given that she'd spent the week hoping that those people wouldn't get the opportunity to vote at all.

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I saw on the news today, Edwards in a Baptist church speaking from the pulpit. I do know that it is MLK Jr. day, but it does seem a bit 'convenient' since he is running for president. I don't have his exact transcript, but I will look for it.

I have attended mass (Catholic) my entire life and I can honestly say that I have never once heard a political candidate speak from a pulpit, nor have I ever witnessed a priest endorse a candidate.



That doesn't address my question. Have you got any examples of churches losing their tax exempt status for letting republican candidates speak there, or are you just assuming the party bias?

Edit: Seems like Bill's hit the nail on the head. Looks like you really are just assuming bias.
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Well, let's see. The IRS grants tax-exempt status and the IRS is part of, and answers, to the administration, which is headed by Born Again Christian and Republican George W. Bush. So clearly it's all a conspiracy of the religious right to make the Dems look bad.

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That doesn't address my question. Have you got any examples of churches losing their tax exempt status for letting republican candidates speak there, or are you just assuming the party bias?

Edit: Seems like Bill's hit the nail on the head. Looks like you really are just asuming bias.



There is absolutely no chance that there is a bias here. This is selective vision, no more.

I could see Romney avoiding the church appearances for the very reason that many fear him as a Mormon or as a devout Christian. Whereas many Democratic candidates want to escape the image of godless infidels.

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I could see Romney avoiding the church appearances for the very reason that many fear him as a Mormon or as a devout Christian. Whereas many Democratic candidates want to escape the image of godless infidels.




I can see and agree with your point on this one. It seems like they are both trying to appear conter to their stereotypes.

I just wish I knew more about these church appearances. I know that each of these people are not Robots, they have their own beliefs and passions. Obama and Romney for example, are both devout in their faith. Huckabee is up there talking at the pulpit, was he speaking about his faith in god for his own spirituality, or was he trying to use the church as a way to pad his campaign with $$. I'm okay with one, but not with the other.
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Yet if a Republican was to campaign from a pulpit that church's tax exempt status would be pulled immediately.



Aw bullshit ! Numero uno, the Republicats are just as welcome to preach in their kind of churches as anybody else.

Numero two-o, maybe they just don't wanna. Even though one of the Repubs is a preacher himself, maybe they're just getting tired.

Numero three-o, the Dems have Gawd on their side.

And numero four-o, the ONLY church that had their tax exempt status threathened was an Episcopal church in Pasadena, CA where the pastor made an anti war, pro John Kerry sermon during the 2004 election campaign. So your bluff is called.

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Campaigning in a church (whichever side of the isle you stand on) is bringing YOUR message to the Church, rather than bringing the Church's message to the People at large. I'm very leary of our government dictating some religious code to the citizens. But I'm, personally, not bothered by campaigning in church. It's a place to win votes.

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Probably because most churches are not into letting in the riff raff that the Republican politicians have turned out to be...war hero thieves.....Values candidates selling out to the K street crooks ...Gay self loathing homophobes....pedophiles... hell yall even got a freakin crossdresser on the ticket... he might show up in a really inappropriate.. yup.. good "family values" candidates



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Probably because most churches are not into letting in the riff raff that the Republican politicians have turned out to be...war hero thieves.....Values candidates selling out to the K street crooks ...Gay self loathing homophobes....pedophiles... hell yall even got a freakin crossdresser on the ticket... he might show up in a really inappropriate.. yup.. good "family values" candidates



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You really HATE the truth dont you....tsk tsk tsk..:ph34r::ph34r:.

But I bet you will vote for a slate of rePUBICans again... thinking they are the best man for the job...because they are a rePUBICan.... and stand for family values and god and apple pie.. and they will let you down again and again and again...:S:S:S:S

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Tsk, tsk... projecting again, are we?

Sorry to bust your bubble, but I'm not a 'straight ticket' voter. I vote for whoever most closely supports the issues important to me.

Thus far, that's been Republicans. If Dr. Paul makes it onto the ballot, he'll most likely get my vote.
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Tsk, tsk... projecting again, are we?



Gee for someone who never studied any psycology.. it is interesting that you would ATTEMPT to turn what you do daily around onto others...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

For a group of right wing guys here suffering from severe parataxic distortion, I find the attempts quite funny when yall try to reuse the $20 dollar words you hear on DIZZY.DOT.COM SC ( polly wanna cracker) instead of the more typical $1 dollar words that yall should really stick with.

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I find the attempts quite funny when yall try to reuse the $20 dollar words you hear on DIZZY.DOT.COM SC ( polly wanna cracker) instead of the more typical $1 dollar words that yall should really stick with.



Projecting is a $20 word?


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psycology..



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Mike Huckabee last week suggested that the Constitution should be amended to be more in line with God's laws. The fact that he wasn't completely ripped to shreds by the press on that is evidence that free passes go to both sides of the aisle.



One of his greatest hits:
"[Some of my opponents] do not want to change the Constitution, but I believe it's a lot easier to change the constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God, and that's what we need to do is to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards,"

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