Skyrad 0 #1 June 25, 2007 Following a statement in another thread by one us I wondered if most Skydivers have a faith. Do you?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
souleh 0 #2 June 25, 2007 Where's the option for Atheist? 'buttplugs? where?' - geno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROK 0 #3 June 25, 2007 I pray for safe flight, good openings, and soft landings...yes, I have a faith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #4 June 25, 2007 raised jewish… grew (grue?) out of it.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #5 June 25, 2007 Quote Where's the option for Atheist? A Skydiving atheist that doesn't belive even that his/her parachute will open? Sounds more like a pessimistWhat is your definition of Atheist?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,111 #6 June 25, 2007 I'm fairly confident I have a faith. But, I could be wrong.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #7 June 25, 2007 Quote Where's the option for Atheist? Last option... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #8 June 25, 2007 I'm amazed that no one voted Jedi!When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #9 June 25, 2007 Quote A Skydiving atheist that doesn't belive even that his/her parachute will open? Most people realise that there is a chance that their parachutes wont open, that's why we jump with reserves (which also have a small chance that they wont open). There is also a small chance that an AAD will misfire or just plain not work. This is partly why there is constant concern over complacency and gadget reliant jumpers. Faith is a pretty dangerous concept in skydiving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niu 0 #10 June 25, 2007 "I have a faith but not an organised religion" If Murphy`s Law counts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
souleh 0 #11 June 25, 2007 Quote What is your definition of Atheist? An atheist is someone who believes there is no God, as opposed to an agnostic who simply doesn't have a view either way, or isn't sure (and isn't too bothered). I guess I didn't really realise you were opening it up to being beyond religious faiths - although most of your poll options are religions, hence my assumption 'buttplugs? where?' - geno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #12 June 25, 2007 yea, I knd of forgot to put down Atheist, although that is a religion in its own right.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #13 June 25, 2007 Quote yea, I knd of forgot to put down Atheist, although that is a religion in its own right. agree, but that'll get some panties rolled up here anyway you forgot the Ignorant Apathetic - don't know, don't care I have faith than an organized large scale group, despite any original good intentions, will eventually go bad and cause a lot of problems. They are best when short lived and disbanded once original goals are met. (political parties, unions, organized religions, etc etc) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
souleh 0 #14 June 25, 2007 I've put 'I have no faith in anything but its a parachute it wants to open! ' cause I guess it's pretty neutral Agree with you there btw rehmwa. Gotta get something finished before I leave work (heaven knows, it'll look like I've done sod all today, otherwise... ) so I won't elaborate for now! 'buttplugs? where?' - geno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #15 June 25, 2007 Quoteyea, I knd of forgot to put down Atheist, although that is a religion in its own right. Eh? How can atheism be called a religion? What's religious about not believing something? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
souleh 0 #16 June 25, 2007 It's not about 'not beliving' something, it's about believing something is not.. Sorry 'buttplugs? where?' - geno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #17 June 25, 2007 So if atheism is a religion and theism obviously is, what position must I take to have no religion? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,412 #18 June 25, 2007 QuoteQuoteyea, I knd of forgot to put down Atheist, although that is a religion in its own right. Eh? How can atheism be called a religion? What's religious about not believing something? An atheist believes there is no god. An agnostic believes no one can know if there is, or isn't, a god. A fundamentalist atheist believes he needs to convince everyone else there is no god."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #19 June 25, 2007 Quote An atheist believes there is no god. An agnostic believes no one can know if there is, or isn't, a god. Not arguing with you Robert ... just backing up what you wrote. 1) There is no way in hell that I can prove there is no God. So I am not an atheist. 2) There is no way in hell that I can prove there is a God, so I am not religious. what does that make me? Agnostic ... but I hate it when the religious think I am an atheist cause they can't seem to see the difference. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #20 June 25, 2007 QuoteAn atheist believes there is no god. An agnostic believes no one can know if there is, or isn't, a god. A fundamentalist atheist believes he needs to convince everyone else there is no god. So what am I if I simply don't believe in god? If I don't make any claims about the non-existence of a god and I don't make any claims about not being able to know if there is or isn't a god, I just plain old don't believe, what am I? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,412 #21 June 25, 2007 Quote but I hate it when the religious think I am an atheist cause they can't seem to see the difference. Well if you don't agree with them, then you are obviously wrong, and that's all that really matters.As for me, I believe....I'll have another Fat Tire."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #22 June 25, 2007 QuoteA ........ believes he needs to convince everyone else there is ...(something about).... god. That's my personal definition of religion. Anything else is harmless and personal and none of my business. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #23 June 25, 2007 Quote As for me, I believe....I'll have another Fat Tire. LMAO ... my friend I would love to join in the Fat Tire. But they don't sell them up here. But we do have something similar. Big Rock!!! So let us rejoice in our beers and continue to worship the thing that is most important to us skydivers ... the well maintained and thus reliable skydiving rig, our own altitude awareness and our ability to make smart decisions under canopy. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeadCone 0 #24 June 25, 2007 QuoteFollowing a statement in another thread by one us I wondered if most Skydivers have a faith. Do you? Most people have faith. Either a faith that a god or gods exists or a faith that no god exists. Only those that don't believe either have no faith. --Head-- Turn off the internet! Join Citizens United Negating Technology For Life And People's Safety! http://www.citizensunitednegatingtechnology.org/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #25 June 25, 2007 Quote the thing that is most important to us skydivers ... the well maintained and thus reliable skydiving rig, our own altitude awareness and our ability to make smart decisions under canopy. wow, that's not even close to what most skydivers would say but it makes sense to me, I'll continue to read your newsletter ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
