Two Boobs in Idaho

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9-Wto8QWLY

If THIS is the billboard that destroys your child, then you really do have problems.

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Stupid Fundies...

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

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I think they want it changed to something more along the lines of these...the famous blue boobs.

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9-Wto8QWLY

If THIS is the billboard that destroys your child, then you really do have problems.

Wow. God forbid they should ever take their kids to the beach!

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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If THIS is the billboard that destroys your child, then you really do have problems.

It's interesting that the cameraman carefully filmed the complainer from mid-breast up. It looks to me like she's displaying a pretty powerful billboard herself.

That billboard IS repulsive though. Billboards really cross the line between the excellent right to free speech and the nonexistant right to be heard.

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That billboard IS repulsive though.

See, and I thought it was quite tastefully done.
Vive la difference.

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See, and I thought it was quite tastefully done.

Visually conflating self-proclaimed stupid or foolish people with women's body parts is tasteful?

Homonyms cause enough trouble without making a big deal out of them. And when you've got one with a strongly negative connotation paired with one that's a highly meaningful symbol of a sensitive group, that's a recipe for tasteless in my book.

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It's good advertizing any way you look at it. Scandals help ratings.

Their ad agency should get a bonus.

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

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It's good advertizing any way you look at it. Scandals help ratings.

Their ad agency should get a bonus.

This is very true. It makes people like me unhappy (and also makes people like that complaining woman unhappy for different reasons) but we're hardly the target audience. I'm going to hate that sort of radio station anyway. Now we just hate the station even more but they don't care. Once an audience member is lost, you may as well piss them off further. Or ruin their day. Or kill them. It's all the same.

It's a fascinating phenomenon that advertisements that annoy or sometimes even severely damage innocent bystanders can be considered successful. Billboards and email spam both fit that description.

Anyone that isn't giving you money is irrelevant. So do whatever you like to them at will. Broadcast as much irritation as you like. Everybody has to absorb it and just live with the constant low-grade ulcer for your profit.

What a species!

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It's good advertizing any way you look at it. Scandals help ratings.

Their ad agency should get a bonus.

This is very true. It makes people like me unhappy (and also makes people like that complaining woman unhappy for different reasons) but we're hardly the target audience. I'm going to hate that sort of radio station anyway. Now we just hate the station even more but they don't care. Once an audience member is lost, you may as well piss them off further. Or ruin their day. Or kill them. It's all the same.

It's a fascinating phenomenon that advertisements that annoy or sometimes even severely damage innocent bystanders can be considered successful. Billboards and email spam both fit that description.

Anyone that isn't giving you money is irrelevant. So do whatever you like to them at will. Broadcast as much irritation as you like. Everybody has to absorb it and just live with the constant low-grade ulcer for your profit.

What a species!

I guess it's an aspect of the free market. If you want things like this to go away, vote with your dollars/patronage/etc, not thru the legal system. Capitalism is neither immoral or moral--it just is.

I like both kinds of entertainment, "fine arts" as well as what some may term shite. Different fare depending on your tastes. It's not bad or good, as that assumes that one is superior to the other, which is impossible to define.

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

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It's good advertizing any way you look at it. Scandals help ratings.

Their ad agency should get a bonus.

This is very true. It makes people like me unhappy (and also makes people like that complaining woman unhappy for different reasons) but we're hardly the target audience. I'm going to hate that sort of radio station anyway. Now we just hate the station even more but they don't care. Once an audience member is lost, you may as well piss them off further. Or ruin their day. Or kill them. It's all the same.

It's a fascinating phenomenon that advertisements that annoy or sometimes even severely damage innocent bystanders can be considered successful. Billboards and email spam both fit that description.

Anyone that isn't giving you money is irrelevant. So do whatever you like to them at will. Broadcast as much irritation as you like. Everybody has to absorb it and just live with the constant low-grade ulcer for your profit.

What a species!

I guess it's an aspect of the free market. If you want things like this to go away, vote with your dollars/patronage/etc, not thru the legal system. Capitalism is neither immoral or moral--it just is.

I like both kinds of entertainment, "fine arts" as well as what some may term shite. Different fare depending on your tastes. It's not bad or good, as that assumes that one is superior to the other, which is impossible to define.

Kinda like I was listening to opera on PBS last nite while I was looking at porn on the net?

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I guess it's an aspect of the free market. If you want things like this to go away, vote with your dollars/patronage/etc, not thru the legal system. Capitalism is neither immoral or moral--it just is.

Well, sort of. Free market does lead to some very immoral consequences -- such as the largely unintended but potentially serious destruction of things non-participants value. For instance, one might say billboards are harmless, but some people do value billboard-free fields of view. That's not available however. I can't even buy it.

Spam is another very closely related advertising medium. Spam's a minor annoyance to most consumers but as an aggragate it's a huge cost. I personally spend around $20,000/year (out of profits that could have been dividends) to prevent spam in my business. That $20 grand is literally stolen from me by the spammers to finance their business in the name of free market.

I'm all for free markets EXCEPT when they result in unfree markets like this.

I would never argue this image or others is "inferior" but I will argue that this station has no moral right to force it upon me just because you boost their profits because it pleased you.

This just shows that the notion of "Free Market" contains hidden slavery when unwilling people are forced to participate in other people's transactions.

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Spam is another very closely related advertising medium. Spam's a minor annoyance to most consumers but as an aggragate it's a huge cost. I personally spend around $20,000/year (out of profits that could have been dividends) to prevent spam in my business. That $20 grand is literally stolen from me by the spammers to finance their business in the name of free market.

I'm all for free markets EXCEPT when they result in unfree markets like this.

I would never argue this image or others is "inferior" but I will argue that this station has no moral right to force it upon me just because you boost their profits because it pleased you.

This just shows that the notion of "Free Market" contains hidden slavery when unwilling people are forced to participate in other people's transactions.

Spam-since that is a quantifiable loss, it can be rightfully addressed by the Court/in the Legislature. However, the fact that Spam is a global problem makes it not a US issue exclusively.

"Hidden Slavery" is a bit over-dramatic, but it's a fact of life--I pay taxes to the govt, and most of what they do is rather distasteful to me, but I don't see that as slavery, just the price of admission.

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

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[If you want things like this to go away, vote with your dollars/patronage/etc, not thru the legal system.

Here's a relevant analogy. It would probably be profitable -- if it weren't illegal -- to raise loudspeakers on privately-owned posts and blare audible advertisements throughout your neighborhood. You'd hear them when washing the dishes. You'd hear them while making love to your wife. You'd hear them while sleeping for god's sake.

You might even choose to boycott advertisers who used that medium. We can hope you could organize everyone else to join you. Perhaps you could. I doubt it though -- especially if the audible ads were funny or risque.

Advertisers would LOVE to buy time on that device. Luckily loud sounds are generally prohibited in areas dense enough to justify it.

Your moral right to engage in Free Market transactions ends when I don't have the freedom to disengage.

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Other than passed nuisance laws, there really isn't a right to disengage in public--that's why adverts like posters and billboards work. You lose nothing by their existence. They're passive, unlike the loudspeaker example, which is active--you cannot ignore them as easy as you can ignore a billboard..

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

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Esssh I really wonder where the country is going when I see idiots like that.

I bet they dont have a problem with their kids watching western shoot em up movies.. or war movies..death and carnage... goood ole american way..... to me that is far more obscene than breastscould ever possibly be..sucks that the kids probably never saw when they should have been breast feeding as todlers.

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I'd like to state for the record that I am pro-boobs. I like them.

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

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I'd like to state for the record that I am pro-boobs. I like them.

I second the motion....

I like pro boobs as well as amateur boobs.


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narci,

You made a lot of intelligent and thoughtful points in the thread. Kudos to you.

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narci,

You made a lot of intelligent and thoughtful points in the thread. Kudos to you.

I'd think more of you if you understood that points can be intelligent and thoughtful even if they don't agree with your prejudices.

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Narci,

I am pretty sure that a simple "thank you" would have done.....That was uncalled for.

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Other than passed nuisance laws, there really isn't a right to disengage in public

But earlier you advocated NOT using the legal system to restrict this sort of thing. You wanted people to vote with their dollars. I would conjecture that you would also choose to repeal all nuisance laws and let the free market decide if loudspeaker advertisements in neighborhoods would exist.

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You lose nothing by their existence.

No sir. I lose something important to me by their existence. I acknowledge that you don't mind billboards constantly hovering in your sight, so you lose nothing by their existence. That's fine and I accept that your interests are different from mine.

But I value a billboard-free field of view. However, that's not available to me or anyone else who feels as I do.

That's the asymmetry that makes this aspect of Free Market free for some and unfree for others. If just one person wants to impose their Free Market billboard on everyone, he wins. Some of the losers won't care (which is fine) but others will.

In a supposedly Free Market people should always be able to trade according to their interests which is excellent. But in some cases (like this fairly trivial billboard situation and other much more significant cases) some interests are not possible to trade without trampling on the interests of people who aren't involved in your transaction.

And my whole point is just to shake my head and think, oy! As the world gets more crowded, there's inevitably going to be more and more of this.

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I am pretty sure that a simple "thank you" would have done.....That was uncalled for.

I don't know if you know the history. The person you ask me to thank have written extraordinarily nasty personal things to me when I was equally thoughtful and intelligent but he happened not to like the topic.

I will not thank him.

edited to add: Now that I've had my morning tea, I'm wishing I wrote this post and my response to markharju with a softer tone. I was too quick to post when my temper flared. But it seems disingenuous to change the words at this point. Ah well.

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I am pretty sure that a simple "thank you" would have done.....That was uncalled for.

I don't know if you know the history. The person you ask me to thank have written extraordinarily nasty personal things to me when I was equally thoughtful and intelligent but he happened not to like the topic.

I will not thank him.

edited to add: Now that I've had my morning tea, I'm wishing I wrote this post and my response to markharju with a softer tone. I was too quick to post when my temper flared. But it seems disingenuous to change the words at this point. Ah well.

I don't know, "Kudos to you" is pretty condescending.

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I rather like this complaint story: http://www.dispatch.com/dispatch/content/local_news/stories/2007/04/30/BILLBOARD.ART_ART_04-30-07_B4_DL6HNTA.html

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