Cop Killers Ignore Gun Laws

[JohnRich 4]

News:

NEW FINDINGS FROM FBI ABOUT COP ATTACKERS & THEIR WEAPONS

New findings on how offenders train with, carry and deploy the weapons they use to attack police officers have emerged in a just-published, 5-year study by the FBI...

Predominately handguns were used in the assaults on officers and all but one were obtained illegally, usually in street transactions or in thefts. In contrast to media myth, none of the firearms in the study was obtained from gun shows. What was available "was the overriding factor in weapon choice," the report says.

Researcher Davis, noted that none of the attackers interviewed was "hindered by any law--federal, state or local--that has ever been established to prevent gun ownership. They just laughed at gun laws."

Source: Force Science News

To download the entire FBI report in pdf files, see this web page:
http://www.calgunlaws.com/article-480.html

[SkyDekker 1,150]

Just In, Just In, those running red lights disobey traffic laws study finds....

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Predominately handguns were used in the assaults on officers and all but one were obtained illegally,

Where do these "illegal guns" come from?

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What was available "was the overriding factor in weapon choice," the report says.

Right, which is what gun control advocates have been saying all along.

[JohnRich 4]

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Just In, Just In, those running red lights disobey traffic laws study finds....

At least two people so far don't think that idea is as obvious as you make it out to be - they've voted that they think gun laws do stop criminals.

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Predominately handguns were used in the assaults on officers and all but one were obtained illegally,

Where do these "illegal guns" come from?

I see that you haven't been doing your reading assignments once again. The answer is in the story. Go do your homework. Don't bother trying to intelligently debate the subject, if you're not going to read the background story. That's 10 demerits. Now go to your room.

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What was available "was the overriding factor in weapon choice," the report says.

Right, which is what gun control advocates have been saying all along.

What this means is that no matter what you ban, the criminals will always still get whatever is available to commit their crimes. So, even presuming that a ban is successful, all you've accomplished is to cause a crime to be committed with, say, a .45 instead of a .38. Yeah, that's a great accomplishment...

[waltappel 1]

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What was available "was the overriding factor in weapon choice," the report says.

Right, which is what gun control advocates have been saying all along.

What this means is that no matter what you ban, the criminals will always still get whatever is available to commit their crimes. So, even presuming that a ban is successful, all you've accomplished is to cause a crime to be committed with, say, a .45 instead of a .38. Yeah, that's a great accomplishment...

I'm thinking the gun control fanatics figure that getting beat to death with a baseball bat would be far more acceptable than getting shot. Unfortunately, I think that the same people wanting to eliminate guns are in living situations where they are highly unlikely to ever have to deal with immediate threats.

For example, Rosie O'Donnell supports gun control--at least for everyone but her bodyguards. Diane Feinstein would gladly take away everyone's right to own a gun except for her. The list goes on.

Walt

[kelpdiver 2]

John, SkyDekker was right to pick up on that turn of phrase: "What was available "was the overriding factor in weapon choice," the report says."

So the report defended gun shows. It then really promotes the notion that banning guns will reduce was is available.

You can't go on and claim he should read through the long version of the report just to find evidence to contradict his viewpoint, one supported by the summary viewpoint YOU wrote. The burden of clear editing and presentation falls on you.

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Just In, Just In, those running red lights disobey traffic laws study finds....

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Predominately handguns were used in the assaults on officers and all but one were obtained illegally,

Where do these "illegal guns" come from?

um where did you get "illegal guns" from "obtained illegally"?

www.FourWheelerHB.com

[SkyChimp 0]

I've never heard of any person who premeditated a murder, by means of using a fire arm, acquire that firearm legally so they can be traced by a law enforcement agency. I'm sorry guys but Slick Willy's "Feel Good" legislation of 1994 did not render the effect that advocates wanted. Most guns are acquired illegally, regardless if the weapon itself is legal or illegal.

Here is the BRADY BILL itself.........

THE BRADY BILL
FIREARMS SECTION OF THE CRIME BILL of 1994
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Title XI Firearms
Subtitle A--Assault Weapons
SEC. 110101. SHORT TITLE.

This subtitle may be cited as the `Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act'.



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SEC. 110102. RESTRICTION ON MANUFACTURE, TRANSFER, AND POSSESSION OF CERTAIN SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS.
(a) RESTRICTION- Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following new subsection:

`(v)(1) It shall be unlawful for a person to manufacture, transfer, or possess a semiautomatic assault weapon.

`(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the possession or transfer of any semiautomatic assault weapon otherwise lawfully possessed under Federal law on the date of the enactment of this subsection.

`(3) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to--

`(A) any of the firearms, or replicas or duplicates of the firearms, specified in Appendix A to this section, as such firearms were manufactured on October 1, 1993;

`(B) any firearm that--

`(i) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever, or slide action;

`(ii) has been rendered permanently inoperable; or

`(iii) is an antique firearm;

`(C) any semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than 5 rounds of ammunition; or

`(D) any semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than 5 rounds of ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine.

The fact that a firearm is not listed in Appendix A shall not be construed to mean that paragraph (1) applies to such firearm. No firearm exempted by this subsection may be deleted from Appendix A so long as this subsection is in effect. `(4) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to--

`(A) the manufacture for, transfer to, or possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States or a State or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a State, or a transfer to or possession by a law enforcement officer employed by such an entity for purposes of law enforcement (whether on or off duty);

`(B) the transfer to a licensee under title I of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 for purposes of establishing and maintaining an on-site physical protection system and security organization required by Federal law, or possession by an employee or contractor of such licensee on-site for such purposes or off-site for purposes of licensee-authorized training or transportation of nuclear materials;

`(C) the possession, by an individual who is retired from service with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwise prohibited from receiving a firearm, of a semiautomatic assault weapon transferred to the individual by the agency upon such retirement; or

`(D) the manufacture, transfer, or possession of a semiautomatic assault weapon by a licensed manufacturer or licensed importer for the purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by the Secretary.'.

(b) DEFINITION OF SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPON- Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following new paragraph:

`(30) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means--

`(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the firearms in any caliber, known as--

`(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models);

`(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;

`(vii) Steyr AUG;

`(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and

`(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;

`(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--

`(i) a folding or telescoping stock;

`(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;

`(iii) a bayonet mount;

`(iv) a flash suppresser or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppresser; and

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(v) a grenade launcher;

`(C) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--

`(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;

`(ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppresser, forward hand grip, or silencer;

`(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the non trigger hand without being burned;

(iv) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and

`(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; and

`(D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of--

`(i) a folding or telescoping stock;

`(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;

`(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and

`(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine.'.

(c) PENALTIES-

(1) VIOLATION OF SECTION 922(v)- Section 924(a)(1)(B) of such title is amended by striking `or (q) of section 922' and inserting `(r), or (v) of section 922'.

(2) USE OR POSSESSION DURING CRIME OF VIOLENCE OR DRUG TRAFFICKING CRIME- Section 924(c)(1) of such title is amended in the first sentence by inserting `, or semiautomatic assault weapon,' after `short-barreled shotgun,'.

(d) IDENTIFICATION MARKINGS FOR SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS- Section 923(i) of such title is amended by adding at the end the following: `The serial number of any semiautomatic assault weapon manufactured after the date of the enactment of this sentence shall clearly show the date on which the weapon was manufactured.'.
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SEC. 110103. BAN OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES.
(a) PROHIBITION- Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, as amended by section 110102(a), is amended by adding at the end the following new subsection:

`(w)(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful for a person to transfer or possess a large capacity ammunition feeding device.

`(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the possession or transfer of any large capacity ammunition feeding device otherwise lawfully possessed on or before the date of the enactment of this subsection.

`(3) This subsection shall not apply to--

`(A) the manufacture for, transfer to, or possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States or a State or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a State, or a transfer to or possession by a law enforcement officer employed by such an entity for purposes of law enforcement (whether on or off duty);

`(B) the transfer to a licensee under title I of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 for purposes of establishing and maintaining an on-site physical protection system and security organization required by Federal law, or possession by an employee or contractor of such licensee on-site for such purposes or off-site for purposes of licensee-authorized training or transportation of nuclear materials;

`(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;

`(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);

`(iv) Colt AR-15;

`(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;

`(C) the possession, by an individual who is retired from service with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwise prohibited from receiving ammunition, of a large capacity ammunition feeding device transferred to the individual by the agency upon such retirement; or

`(D) the manufacture, transfer, or possession of any large capacity ammunition feeding device by a licensed manufacturer or licensed importer for the purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by the Secretary.'.

`(4) If a person charged with violating paragraph (1) asserts that paragraph (1) does not apply to such person because of paragraph (2) or (3), the Government shall have the burden of proof to show that such paragraph (1) applies to such person. The lack of a serial number as described in section 923(i) of title 18, United States Code, shall be a presumption that the large capacity ammunition feeding device is not subject to the prohibition of possession in paragraph (1).'.

(b) DEFINITION OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE- Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, as amended by section 110102(b), is amended by adding at the end the following new paragraph:

`(31) The term `large capacity ammunition feeding device'--

`(A) means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device manufactured after the date of enactment of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition; but

`(B) does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rim fire ammunition.'.

(c) PENALTY- Section 924(a)(1)(B) of title 18, United States Code, as amended by section 110102(c)(1), is amended by striking `or (v)' and inserting `(v), or (w)'.

(d) IDENTIFICATION MARKINGS FOR LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES- Section 923(i) of title 18, United States Code, as amended by section 110102(d) of this Act, is amended by adding at the end the following: `A large capacity ammunition feeding device manufactured after the date of the enactment of this sentence shall be identified by a serial number that clearly shows that the device was manufactured or imported after the effective date of this subsection, and such other identification as the Secretary may by regulation prescribe.'.
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SEC. 110104. STUDY BY ATTORNEY GENERAL.
(a) STUDY- The Attorney General shall investigate and study the effect of this subtitle and the amendments made by this subtitle, and in particular shall determine their impact, if any, on violent and drug trafficking crime. The study shall be conducted over a period of 18 months, commencing 12 months after the date of enactment of this Act.

(b) REPORT- Not later than 30 months after the date of enactment of this Act, the Attorney General shall prepare and submit to the Congress a report setting forth in detail the findings and determinations made in the study under subsection (a).
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SEC. 110105. EFFECTIVE DATE.
This subtitle and the amendments made by this subtitle--

(1) shall take effect on the date of the enactment of this Act; and

(2) are repealed effective as of the date that is 10 years after that date.



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SEC. 110106. APPENDIX A TO SECTION 922 OF TITLE 18.
Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following appendix:

`APPENDIX A

Center fire Rifles--Autoloaders
Center fire Rifles--Lever & Slide
Center fire Rifles--Bolt Action
Center fire Rifles--Single Shot
Drillings, Combination Guns, Double Rifles
Rim fire Rifles-Autoloaders
Rim fire Rifles--Lever & Slide Action
Rim fire Rifles--Bolt Actions & Single Shots
Competition Rifles--Center fire & Rim fire
Shotguns--Autoloaders
Shotguns--Slide Actions
Shotguns--Over/Unders
Shotguns--Side by Sides
Shotguns--Bolt Actions & Single Shots
Subtitle B--Youth Handgun Safety
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SEC. 110201. PROHIBITION OF THE POSSESSION OF A HANDGUN OR AMMUNITION BY, OR THE PRIVATE TRANSFER OF A HANDGUN OR AMMUNITION TO, A JUVENILE.
(a) OFFENSE- Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, as amended by section 110103(a), is amended by adding at the end the following new subsection:

`(x)(1) It shall be unlawful for a person to sell, deliver, or otherwise transfer to a person who the transferor knows or has reasonable cause to believe is a juvenile--

`(A) a handgun; or

`(B) ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun.

`(2) It shall be unlawful for any person who is a juvenile to knowingly possess--

`(A) a handgun; or

`(B) ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun.

`(3) This subsection does not apply to--

`(A) a temporary transfer of a handgun or ammunition to a juvenile or to the possession or use of a handgun or ammunition by a juvenile if the handgun and ammunition are possessed and used by the juvenile--

`(i) in the course of employment, in the course of ranching or farming related to activities at the residence of the juvenile (or on property used for ranching or farming at which the juvenile, with the permission of the property owner or lessee, is performing activities related to the operation of the farm or ranch), target practice, hunting, or a course of instruction in the safe and lawful use of a handgun;

`(ii) with the prior written consent of the juvenile's parent or guardian who is not prohibited by Federal, State, or local law from possessing a firearm, except--

`(I) during transportation by the juvenile of an unloaded handgun in a locked container directly from the place of transfer to a place at which an activity described in clause (i) is to take place and transportation by the juvenile of that handgun, unloaded and in a locked container, directly from the place at which such an activity took place to the transferor; or

`(II) with respect to ranching or farming activities as described in clause (i), a juvenile may possess and use a handgun or ammunition with the prior written approval of the juvenile's parent or legal guardian and at the direction of an adult who is not prohibited by Federal, State or local law from possessing a firearm;

`(iii) the juvenile has the prior written consent in the juvenile's possession at all times when a handgun is in the possession of the juvenile; and

`(iv) in accordance with State and local law;

`(B) a juvenile who is a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or the National Guard who possesses or is armed with a handgun in the line of duty;

`(C) a transfer by inheritance of title (but not possession) of a handgun or ammunition to a juvenile; or `(D) the possession of a handgun or ammunition by a juvenile taken in defense of the juvenile or other persons against an intruder into the residence of the juvenile or a residence in which the juvenile is an invited guest.

`(4) A handgun or ammunition, the possession of which is transferred to a juvenile in circumstances in which the transferor is not in violation of this subsection shall not be subject to permanent confiscation by the Government if its possession by the juvenile subsequently becomes unlawful because of the conduct of the juvenile, but shall be returned to the lawful owner when such handgun or ammunition is no longer required by the Government for the purposes of investigation or prosecution.

`(5) For purposes of this subsection, the term `juvenile' means a person who is less than 18 years of age.

`(6)(A) In a prosecution of a violation of this subsection, the court shall require the presence of a juvenile defendant's parent or legal guardian at all proceedings.

`(B) The court may use the contempt power to enforce subparagraph (A).

`(C) The court may excuse attendance of a parent or legal guardian of a juvenile defendant at a proceeding in a prosecution of a violation of this subsection for good cause shown.'.

(b) PENALTIES- Section 924(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended--

(1) in paragraph (1) by striking `paragraph (2) or (3) of'; and

(2) by adding at the end the following new paragraph:

`(5)(A)(i) A juvenile who violates section 922(x) shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both, except that a juvenile described in clause (ii) shall be sentenced to probation on appropriate conditions and shall not be incarcerated unless the juvenile fails to comply with a condition of probation.

`(ii) A juvenile is described in this clause if--

`(I) the offense of which the juvenile is charged is possession of a handgun or ammunition in violation of section 922(x)(2); and

`(II) the juvenile has not been convicted in any court of an offense (including an offense under section 922(x) or a similar State law, but not including any other offense consisting of conduct that if engaged in by an adult would not constitute an offense) or adjudicated as a juvenile delinquent for conduct that if engaged in by an adult would constitute an offense.

`(B) A person other than a juvenile who knowingly violates section 922(x)--

`(i) shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both; and

`(ii) if the person sold, delivered, or otherwise transferred a handgun or ammunition to a juvenile knowing or having reasonable cause to know that the juvenile intended to carry or otherwise possess or discharge or otherwise use the handgun or ammunition in the commission of a crime of violence, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.'.
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(c) TECHNICAL AMENDMENT OF JUVENILE DELINQUENCY PROVISIONS IN TITLE 18, UNITED STATES CODE-

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(1) SECTION 5031- Section 5031 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting `or a violation by such a person of section 922(x)' before the period at the end.

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(2) SECTION 5032- Section 5032 of title 18, United States Code, is amended--
(A) in the first undesignated paragraph by inserting `or (x)' after `922(p)'; and

(B) in the fourth undesignated paragraph by inserting `or section 922(x) of this title,' before `criminal prosecution on the basis'.



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(d) TECHNICAL AMENDMENT OF THE JUVENILE JUSTICE AND DELINQUENCY PREVENTION ACT OF 1974- Section 223(a)(12)(A) of the Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention Act of 1974 (42 U.S.C. 5633(a)(12)(A)) is amended by striking `which do not constitute violations of valid court orders' and inserting `(other than an offense that constitutes a violation of a valid court order or a violation of section 922(x) of title 18, United States Code, or a similar State law).'
(e) MODEL LAW- The Attorney General, acting through the Director of the National Institute for Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention, shall--

(1) evaluate existing and proposed juvenile handgun legislation in each State;

(2) develop model juvenile handgun legislation that is constitutional and enforceable;

(3) prepare and disseminate to State authorities the findings made as the result of the evaluation; and

(4) report to Congress by December 31, 1995, findings and recommendations concerning the need or appropriateness of further action by the Federal Government.

Subtitle C--Licensure
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SEC. 110301. FIREARMS LICENSURE AND REGISTRATION TO REQUIRE A PHOTOGRAPH AND FINGERPRINTS.
(a) FIREARMS LICENSURE- Section 923(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended in the second sentence by inserting `and shall include a photograph and fingerprints of the applicant' before the period.

(b) REGISTRATION- Section 5802 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by inserting after the first sentence the following: `An individual required to register under this section shall include a photograph and fingerprints of the individual with the initial application.'.
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SEC. 110302. COMPLIANCE WITH STATE AND LOCAL LAW AS A CONDITION TO LICENSE. Section 923(d)(1) of title 18, United States Code, is amended--
(1) by striking `and' at the end of subparagraph (D);

(2) by striking the period at the end of subparagraph (E) and inserting `; and'; and

(3) by adding at the end the following new subparagraph:

`(F) the applicant certifies that--

`(i) the business to be conducted under the license is not prohibited by State or local law in the place where the licensed premise is located;

`(ii)(I) within 30 days after the application is approved the business will comply with the requirements of State and local law applicable to the conduct of the business; and

`(II) the business will not be conducted under the license until the requirements of State and local law applicable to the business have been met; and

`(iii) that the applicant has sent or delivered a form to be prescribed by the Secretary, to the chief law enforcement officer of the locality in which the premises are located, which indicates that the applicant intends to apply for a Federal firearms license.'.
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SEC. 110303. ACTION ON FIREARMS LICENSE APPLICATION. Section 923(d)(2) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by striking `forty-five-day' and inserting `60-day'.

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SEC. 110304. INSPECTION OF FIREARMS LICENSEES' INVENTORY AND RECORDS. Section 923(g)(1)(B)(ii) of title 18, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:
`(ii) for ensuring compliance with the record keeping requirements of this chapter--

`(I) not more than once during any 12-month period; or

`(II) at any time with respect to records relating to a firearm involved in a criminal investigation that is traced to the licensee.'.
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SEC. 110305. REPORTS OF THEFT OR LOSS OF FIREARMS. Section 923(g) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following new paragraph:
`(6) Each licensee shall report the theft or loss of a firearm from the licensee's inventory or collection, within 48 hours after the theft or loss is discovered, to the Secretary and to the appropriate local authorities.'.



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SEC. 110306. RESPONSES TO REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION.
Section 923(g) of title 18, United States Code, as amended by section 110405, is amended by adding at the end the following new paragraph:

`(7) Each licensee shall respond immediately to, and in no event later than 24 hours after the receipt of, a request by the Secretary for information contained in the records required to be kept by this chapter as may be required for determining the disposition of 1 or more firearms in the course of a bona fide criminal investigation. The requested information shall be provided orally or in writing, as the Secretary may require. The Secretary shall implement a system whereby the licensee can positively identify and establish that an individual requesting information via telephone is employed by and authorized by the agency to request such information.'.
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SEC. 110307. NOTIFICATION OF NAMES AND ADDRESSES OF FIREARMS LICENSEES.
Section 923 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following new subsection:

`(1) The Secretary of the Treasury shall notify the chief law enforcement officer in the appropriate State and local jurisdictions of the names and addresses of all persons in the State to whom a firearms license is issued.'.

Subtitle D--Domestic Violence SEC. 110401. PROHIBITION AGAINST DISPOSAL OF FIREARMS TO, OR RECEIPT OF FIREARMS BY, PERSONS WHO HAVE COMMITTED DOMESTIC ABUSE.

(a) INTIMATE PARTNER DEFINED- Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, as amended by section 110103(b), is amended by inserting at the end the following new paragraph:

`(32) The term `intimate partner' means, with respect to a person, the spouse of the person, a former spouse of the person, an individual who is a parent of a child of the person, and an individual who cohabitates or has cohabited with the person.'.

(b) PROHIBITION AGAINST DISPOSAL OF FIREARMS- Section 922(d) of title 18, United States Code, is amended--

(1) by striking `or' at the end of paragraph (6);

(2) by striking the period at the end of paragraph (7) and inserting `; or'; and

(3) by inserting after paragraph (7) the following new paragraph:

`(8) is subject to a court order that restrains such person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner of such person or child of such intimate partner or person, or engaging in other conduct that would place an intimate partner in reasonable fear of bodily injury to the partner or child, except that this paragraph shall only apply to a court order that--

`(A) was issued after a hearing of which such person received actual notice, and at which such person had the opportunity to participate; and

`(B)(i) includes a finding that such person represents a credible threat to the physical safety of such intimate partner or child; or

`(ii) by its terms explicitly prohibits the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against such intimate partner or child that would reasonably be expected to cause bodily injury.'.

(c) PROHIBITION AGAINST RECEIPT OF FIREARMS- Section 922(g) of title 18, United States Code, is amended--

(1) by striking `or' at the end of paragraph (6);

(2) by inserting `or' at the end of paragraph (7); and

(3) by inserting after paragraph (7) the following:

`(8) who is subject to a court order that--

`(A) was issued after a hearing of which such person received actual notice, and at which such person had an opportunity to participate;

`(B) restrains such person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner of such person or child of such intimate partner or person, or engaging in other conduct that would place an intimate partner in reasonable fear of bodily injury to the partner or child; and

`(C)(i) includes a finding that such person represents a credible threat to the physical safety of such intimate partner or child; or

`(ii) by its terms explicitly prohibits the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against such intimate partner or child that would reasonably be expected to cause bodily injury,'.

(d) STORAGE OF FIREARMS- Section 926(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended--

(1) by striking `and' at the end of paragraph (1);

(2) by striking the period at the end of paragraph (2) and inserting `; and'; and

(3) by inserting after paragraph (2) the following:

`(3) regulations providing for effective receipt and secure storage of firearms relinquished by or seized from persons described in subsection (d)(8) or (g)(8) of section 922.'.

(e) RETURN OF FIREARMS- Section 924(d)(1) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by striking `the seized' and inserting `or lapse of or court termination of the restraining order to which he is subject, the seized or relinquished'.

Subtitle E--Gun Crime Penalties SEC. 110501. ENHANCED PENALTY FOR USE OF A SEMIAUTOMATIC FIREARM DURING A CRIME OF VIOLENCE OR A DRUG TRAFFICKING CRIME.

(a) AMENDMENT TO SENTENCING GUIDELINES- Pursuant to its authority under section 994 of title 28, United States Code, the United States Sentencing Commission shall amend its sentencing guidelines to provide an appropriate enhancement of the punishment for a crime of violence (as defined in section 924(c)(3) of title 18, United States Code) or a drug trafficking crime (as defined in section 924(c)(2) of title 18, United States Code) if a semiautomatic firearm is involved.

(b) SEMIAUTOMATIC FIREARM- In subsection (a), `semiautomatic firearm' means any repeating firearm that utilizes a portion of the energy of a firing cartridge to extract the fired cartridge case and chamber the next round and that requires a separate pull of the trigger to fire each cartridge.

SEC. 110502. ENHANCED PENALTY FOR SECOND OFFENSE OF USING AN EXPLOSIVE TO COMMIT A FELONY.

Pursuant to its authority under section 994 of title 28, United States Code, the United States Sentencing Commission shall promulgate amendments to the sentencing guidelines to appropriately enhance penalties in a case in which a defendant convicted under section 844(h) of title 18, United States Code, has previously been convicted under that section.
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SEC. 110503. SMUGGLING FIREARMS IN AID OF DRUG TRAFFICKING.
Section 924 of title 18, United States Code, as amended by section 60013, is amended by adding at the end the following new subsection:

`(j) A person who, with intent to engage in or to promote conduct that--

`(1) is punishable under the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 801 et seq.), the Controlled Substances Import and Export Act (21 U.S.C. 951 et seq.), or the Maritime Drug Law Enforcement Act (46 U.S.C. App. 1901 et seq.);

`(2) violates any law of a State relating to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act, 21 U.S.C. 802); or

`(3) constitutes a crime of violence (as defined in subsection (c)(3),

smuggles or knowingly brings into the United States a firearm, or attempts to do so, shall be imprisoned not more than 10 years, fined under this title, or both.'.

SEC. 110504. THEFT OF FIREARMS AND EXPLOSIVES. (a) FIREARMS- Section 924 of title 18, United States Code, as amended by section 110203(a), is amended by adding at the end the following new subsection:

`(k) A person who steals any firearm which is moving as, or is a part of, or which has moved in, interstate or foreign commerce shall be imprisoned for not more than 10 years, fined under this title, or both.'.

(b) EXPLOSIVES- Section 844 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following new subsection:

`(k) A person who steals any explosives materials which are moving as, or are a part of, or which have moved in, interstate or foreign commerce shall be imprisoned for not more than 10 years, fined under this title, or both.'.

Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?!

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News:

NEW FINDINGS FROM FBI ABOUT COP ATTACKERS & THEIR WEAPONS

New findings on how offenders train with, carry and deploy the weapons they use to attack police officers have emerged in a just-published, 5-year study by the FBI...

Predominately handguns were used in the assaults on officers and all but one were obtained illegally, usually in street transactions or in thefts. In contrast to media myth, none of the firearms in the study was obtained from gun shows. What was available "was the overriding factor in weapon choice," the report says.

Researcher Davis, noted that none of the attackers interviewed was "hindered by any law--federal, state or local--that has ever been established to prevent gun ownership. They just laughed at gun laws."

Source: Force Science News

To download the entire FBI report in pdf files, see this web page:
http://www.calgunlaws.com/article-480.html

This is just in! A recent FBI study shows that criminals actually break the law!

Yawn...

Vale

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Pedophiles ignore rape laws, should we disregard rape laws altogether?

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For example, Rosie O'Donnell supports gun control--at least for everyone but her bodyguards. Diane Feinstein would gladly take away everyone's right to own a gun except for her. The list goes on.

Walt

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Not one of your best polls John. By the very fact they shoot Police its obvious that they ignore gun laws. On the other hand how many Police haven't been shot because there were gun laws in place? There might be thousands of potential cop killers who decided that they wouldn't shoot at the police as it would be breaking the law.

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Unfortunately, I think that the same people wanting to eliminate guns are in living situations where they are highly unlikely to ever have to deal with immediate threats.

That is a big part of the problem. The gun-ban advocates should put their money where their mouth is and try to live in a bad area, and have to come home alone at night on a subway and then walking through an unlit area without bodygaurds to get a little perspective on the matter.

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For example, Rosie O'Donnell supports gun control--at least for everyone but her bodyguards. Diane Feinstein would gladly take away everyone's right to own a gun except for her. The list goes on.

The elite have never expected the rules to apply to them, just to us sheep who are supposed to be submissive.

Hey Rosies on TV so she figures must know better than the rest of us.

My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within.

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Strangely enough, you of all people bring this topic..........

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

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Pedophiles ignore rape laws, should we disregard rape laws altogether?

I don't see JR stating that robbery and murder and assault laws should be revoked....

the analogy is that some men rape, therefore all men should have their penis removed

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Pedophiles ignore rape laws, should we disregard rape laws altogether?

Please explain your reasoning.

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At least two people so far don't think that idea is as obvious as you make it out to be - they've voted that they think gun laws do stop criminals.

You yourself have stated that gun laws DO stop criminals. You yourself have stated that you believe that laws allowing concealed carry stop or at least lower criminal activity.

(If you meant something more specific than just general gun laws, maybe you should have reflected that in your poll)

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I see that you haven't been doing your reading assignments once again. The answer is in the story. Go do your homework. Don't bother trying to intelligently debate the subject, if you're not going to read the background story. That's 10 demerits. Now go to your room.

Speaking of intelligent dabate...

It goes towards the availability issue I then highlighted after that. gun control advocates claim that when you lower the availability of guns, you lower the number of "illegally obtained guns" as well. It is harder to steal "legal guns" when there are far fewer places to steal them from.

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What was available "was the overriding factor in weapon choice," the report says.

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Right, which is what gun control advocates have been saying all along.

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What this means is that no matter what you ban, the criminals will always still get whatever is available to commit their crimes. So, even presuming that a ban is successful, all you've accomplished is to cause a crime to be committed with, say, a .45 instead of a .38. Yeah, that's a great accomplishment...

They will still get what is available indeed. Gun control advocates generally agree with that. Less guns available, less gun crime is what they would say. Not an ellimination of crime. But, you would have to agree that a drive by knifing would likely result in fewer deaths than a drive by shooting.

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Not one of your best polls John. By the very fact they shoot Police its obvious that they ignore gun laws. On the other hand how many Police haven't been shot because there were gun laws in place? There might be thousands of potential cop killers who decided that they wouldn't shoot at the police as it would be breaking the law.

Careful with that reasoning lest he digs up some stats that show that more cops have been shot somewhere or other since some gun law or other has been enacted thus irrefutably "proving" that fewer guns actually "cause" more cops to be shot.

Vale

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What i am saying is that because a law doesn´t stop people from breaking it it doesn´t mean that the law should be disregarded.
Likewise no law has stopped a teenager from drinking however, it may have made more dificult for some to get wasted everyweekend.

JR is against any gun control law because he says that they don´t stop criminals from getting guns. It may not stop all criminals, however it will make it harder so overall it is a good thing. In spain you can get a gun however since there is not that many it is much harder to get one. Most of the criminals do not have one.

Your analogy is a good one, however getting a gun is optional, havinga penis is not.

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Interesting to see that 40% of the cop killers included in this study were trained in the military.

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Strangely enough, you of all people bring this topic..........

Are you trying to say something? We all know that you don´t have what it takes to say that face to face, but came on, you are hidding behind a keyboard, what is the worst that can happen, getting banned again?

No class Juanesky, no class at all.

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With each link I click I am repeatedly left wondering why terribly written and entirely unsupported crap that certainly would have gotten me "The Speech" from my freshman composition teacher is continuously regurgitated in these forums as if it were some sort of gospel.

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Strangely enough, you of all people bring this topic..........

Are you trying to say something? We all know that you don´t have what it takes to say that face to face, but came on, you are hidding behind a keyboard, what is the worst that can happen, getting banned again?

No class Juanesky, no class at all.

Well, for someone studying phsycholgy and says the following:clicky

I don't think that professing this has any class at all, and I bet the majority thinks the same.

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

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Pedophiles ignore rape laws, should we disregard rape laws altogether?

I love this argument/analogy because it really isn't a good one. I do realize you are not from the US so I'll see if I can explain.

The right to bear arms is written in the US Constitution. The right to rape is not. That being said.... if a law is going to exist that infringes on a constitutional right then shouldn't it have the effect the law was intended to have?

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Pedophiles ignore rape laws, should we disregard rape laws altogether?

No. Obviously we should ban dicks.

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John, was right to pick up on that turn of phrase: "What was available "was the overriding factor in weapon choice," the report says."

So the report defended gun shows. It then really promotes the notion that banning guns will reduce was is available.

You can't go on and claim he should read through the long version of the report just to find evidence to contradict his viewpoint, one supported by the summary viewpoint YOU wrote. The burden of clear editing and presentation falls on you.

He didn't have to read the long pdf version to find his answer. It was right there in the synopsis, taken from the short version of the report, under the capitalized heading "WEAPON CHOICE":

...all but one were obtained illegally, usually in street transactions or in thefts. In contrast to media myth, none of the firearms in the study was obtained from gun shows.

That's way I think he doesn't even bother to read the basic background info before he knee-jerk reacts and opens his mouth to criticize. Because his answer was in plain slight, and he didn't seem to recognize that. I prefer to debate with people who have taken the time to read, digest and think about the info. I'm not here to babysit people and spoon-feed them.

I didn't write the synopsis - those are straight quotes from the beginning of the Force Science News article. That's why I indented and italicized them. Copyright law prohibits me from posting the entire article - that's why I have a link to it, so that everyone can see for themselves. Thus, you can hardly claim that I'm trying to hide something or interject some kind of bias in my reporting.