Bush: ‘We’ve Never Been Stay The Course’

[ryoder 1,384]

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/22/bush-stay-the-course/

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

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If GW is saying that then "Victory" may be at hand, and there is a exit plan thats still a secret.

"Bring it on" and bring the troops home.
No reason to stay the course when The iraqi's can take care of themselves.

R.I.P.

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Without doubt he will go down in history as the biggest lying idiot the world has ever seen. Just a few days ago it was "stay the course" now... "it was never stay the course". Sounds like weasel talk.

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

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Sounds like weasel talk.

Well whatever it is, it can't be "flip flopping"

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It's the year of the Pig.

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Slick Willie got to interpret the meaning of the word "is".

"Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian
Ken

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Slick Willie got to interpret the meaning of the word "is".

Only 5 posts into the thread. Gee.

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Slick Willie got to interpret the meaning of the word "is".

Only 5 posts into the thread. Gee.

Seeing as how the website quoted is at LEAST as partisan as Newsmax.... Did you really expect anyone but the bashers to take it seriously?

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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Slick Willie got to interpret the meaning of the word "is".

Only 5 posts into the thread. Gee.

Seeing as how the website quoted is at LEAST as partisan as Newsmax.... Did you really expect anyone but the bashers to take it seriously?

That's right. We need to stay the course until at least November 7th.

Bush is a Liar. NO WMD. No link between Iraq and Al Qaeda.
During the campaign of 2000, he pitched himself as a candidate who could "restore" honor and integrity to an Oval Office stained by the misdeeds and falsehoods of his predecessor. Don't think he's done that.

Republicans are harboring sex offenders.

Bush should be impeached for failure to uphold his oath to protect the constitution.
Illeagal wire-tapping of US citizens.
Human Rights violations, Secret prisons, torture...

ANWR Oil lies.

Here's a good quote from The Nation, Oct 2003 on Bush's Lies.

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Bush's public statements do suggest he is a binary thinker who views the world in black-and-white terms. You're either for freedom or against it. With the United States or not. Tax cuts are good--always. The more tax cuts the better--always. He's impatient with nuances. Asked in 1999 to name something he wasn't good at, Bush replied, "Sitting down and reading a 500-page book on public policy or philosophy or something." Bush likes life to be clear-cut. And perhaps that causes him to either bend the truth or see (and promote) a bent version of reality. Observers can debate whether Bush considers his embellishments and misrepresentations to be the honest-to-God truth or whether he cynically hurls falsehoods to con the public. But believer or deceiver--the result is the same.

With his misrepresentations and false assertions, Bush has dramatically changed the nation and the world. Relying on deceptions, he turned the United States into an occupying power. Using lies, he pushed through tax cuts that will profoundly reshape the US budget for years to come, most likely insuring a long stretch of deficits that will make it difficult, perhaps impossible, for the federal government to fund existing programs or contemplate new ones.

Does Bush lie more than his predecessors, more than his political opponents? That's irrelevant. He's guiding the nation during difficult and perhaps perilous times, in which a credible President is much in need. Prosperity or economic decline? War or peace? Security or fear? This country has a lot to deal with. Lies from the White House poison the debates that must occur if Americans are going to confront and overcome the challenges of this century at home and abroad.

Presidential lying, in fact, threatens the country. To render informed and wise choices about the crucial and complicated controversies of the day, people need truthful information. The President is generally in a position to define and dominate a debate more than other political players. And a lie from the White House--or a fib or a misrepresentation or a fudged number--can go a long way toward distorting the national discussion.

Bush campaigned for the presidency as the fellow who would bring honesty back to the White House. During his first full day on the job, while swearing in his White House staff, he reminded his cadre, "On a mantelpiece in this great house is inscribed the prayer of John Adams, that only the wise and honest may rule under this roof." But Adams's prayer would once more go unanswered. There has been no restoration of integrity. Bush's promise was a lie. The future of the United States remains in the hands of a dishonest man.

"Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian
Ken

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Touch a nerve, did I?

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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Not really.

Bill's at Nationals so I'm trying to hold up the "Truth about Bush" dialog.

http://www.bushlies.net/homeliesatoz.html
Top 20+ Bush Lies!

"Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian
Ken

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And did I say" Clinton got his dick sucked" yet

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

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Right and Democrats were never for "cut and run". They were always for "walk and talk".

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Well whatever it is, it can't be "flip flopping"

Hell that is more flip flopping than the salmon on the deck of the boat I saw this weekend..

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Slick Willie got to interpret the meaning of the word "is".

Only 5 posts into the thread. Gee.

Seeing as how the website quoted is at LEAST as partisan as Newsmax.... Did you really expect anyone but the bashers to take it seriously?

Damn Libs! Always with the accurate quotes, video, and research! I mean when will they learn to do it *Right*? You write down what the leadership says today, ignore anything that you heard before.....that's it....no thinking.....just repeat what they said. Isn't that soooo much easier ....and Patriotic?

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Slick Willie got to interpret the meaning of the word "is".

Only 5 posts into the thread. Gee.

Seeing as how the website quoted is at LEAST as partisan as Newsmax.... Did you really expect anyone but the bashers to take it seriously?

Damn Libs! Always with the accurate quotes, video, and research! I mean when will they learn to do it *Right*? You write down what the leadership says today, ignore anything that you heard before.....that's it....no thinking.....just repeat what they said. Isn't that soooo much easier ....and Patriotic?

I think you are confusing goals with tactics. Pretty understandable all things considered.

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Bartlett: White House Flexible on Iraq
Oct 23, 10:14 AM (ET)

WASHINGTON (AP) - The fledgling Iraqi government must "step up and take more responsibility" for the country's security, a high-ranking White House official said Monday.

At the same time, Dan Bartlett denied in a television interview that the Bush administration's war policy has been a sweeping "stay the course" commitment, saying "what we aren't doing is sitting there with our heads in the sand."

Senior members of Bush's national security team attended White House meetings Monday. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, just back Asia and Russia, was first to show up. She was followed by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

In contrast to earlier White House statements, Bartlett did not deny a New York Times report saying the head of the U.S.-led Multinational Forces in Iraq and the U.S. ambassador were working on a plan that for the first time would set a specific timetable for disarming militias and meeting other political and economic goals.

"I was a bit puzzled about the report over the weekend because it was stating something that we've been talking publicly about for months," the senior White House counselor said on CBS's "The Early Show." Bartlett said the goal is to "define demonstrable milestones and benchmarks" and said it has been "very much a part of our strategy all along." And he said it with a straight face!!!

The White House earlier had said the report in Sunday's editions of the Times was not accurate. Bartlett said he thought it "might have been overwritten." They have lost track of their lies!!!

"It's never been a stay the course strategy," he said. "The enemy we're fighting is a very determined one. They're very lethal. ... But we are going to prevail and it's going to require the Iraqis themselves to step up and take more responsibility, and that's something we'll be impressing on them in the weeks and months ahead." At least until the end of elections.

Meanwhile, Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Barham Saleh on Monday urged international forces to remain even in the face of the violence, saying it was no time to panic. In other words, why have Iraqi boys do what American boys can do.

"I have to say, because there is too much of a pessimistic tone to this debate _even I would say in certain circles a defeatist tone," Saleh told the British Broadcasting Corp. before meeting in London with Prime Minister Tony Blair.

Bartlett, appearing on ABC's "Good Morning America," said the top commanders there have not asked for more troops, "but President Bush has made clear if they want them, they'll get them."

Sen. Joseph Biden, the senior Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee, said "I was amazed by this statement by Dan Bartlett that we've always been flexible." The entire country is amazed (except for the 20-30% who fell head over heals in love with stupidity)!!!

"It's a civil war," Biden said on CBS. "They still talk about this being a war against terrorists." He said U.S. forces cannot "stand down" because the Iraqi Army "can't stand together."

Bartlett, appearing on CNN, said that "if we do as some have suggested - let's just set a timetable and get out as quickly as possible - that can only embolden the enemy, it could only provide sanctuary for terrorism and that's going to be a situation that makes our country less secure and that's something the president is not going to accept." It was the policy of stupidity that has created terrorism in Iraq.

Stating expectations for the government led by Nouri al-Maliki is something the administration has been "working on for months with the Iraqis," he added. "We've been negotiating with them to discuss exactly what those goals and milestones would look like," Bartlett said.

Said Biden: "You say to Maliki, ,'Look, you get a political settlement here."

He said that Bush should say to Iraq's neighbors, 'We're going to agree on this political solution and get out.'"

"The last time I said this, the president said, 'We can't tell the Iraqis what to do.' Like heck, we can't tell the Iraqis what to do. It's our blood and treasure. ... We should tell them now, 'Get a political settlement, or you're on your own, Jack.'" Anyone who does not agree with this statement, the more blood spilt, the more on your hands.

Biden, D-Delaware, said the time is coming when the American public will no longer tolerate lives and money "being poured down a rathole because, in fact, we're in the middle of a civil war."

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

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Please explain how the Goal has changed.


Edited to add: That article is one of the most sarcastic, biased piece of crap I've read in a long time. Sure it wasn't written by someone at DU?

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Please explain how the Goal has changed.

I have lost track as they have given so many versions. The same with the reason that they invaded a country that posed no threat in the first place. Now, can you explain the newly updated goal?

Edit; It only reports what Bartlett said. How is that bias? Face the facts that your beloved Moron is a flip-flopper who only got half way around and landed on his head scrambling, even further, what little brains he has.

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

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Please explain how the Goal has changed.

I have lost track as they have given so many versions. The same with the reason that they invaded a country that posed no threat in the first place. Now, can you explain the newly updated goal?

Again, you are confused about what was said. The goal has never changed nor is it about to. The tactics, however are a different story. The Admin is stepping up the pressure on the Iraqi's to take a greater role in providing for their own security. That's all that's changing. Hasn't that been what the lefties have been whining about? The tactics?

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The goal was to prevent a mushroom cloud from appearing over the US.

Sadly enough Iraq never posed that threat.

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Do you honestly believe that the Federal Government wishes to allow the Iraqis to govern their own country? The true goal is to get a stronghold in the M.E. and a firm grasp on oil. This has little to do with democracy. If the Iraqis decide that they would rather elect a government that sways towards a union with Iran (or anyother country that the U.S. has deemed to be evil) the U.S. would balk! Much as they balked after the Palestinian election. The only government that will be allowed is one that will bend to the will of the Federal Government. So far this new government is partialy inline.


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29077

Follow the links in this one
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2319.htm

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

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The goal was to prevent a mushroom cloud from appearing over the US.

Sadly enough Iraq never posed that threat.

The Goal was to remove Saddam Hussein from power and establish a Democracy in the M.E. That's not changed. Whatever justifications and tactics used to accomplish that goal are another issue.

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The Goal was to remove Saddam Hussein from power and establish a Democracy in the M.E. That's not changed.

If that is the case, Bush has to be arrested and charged.

He was only allowed a pre-emptive strike to protect the homeland. Hence, the goal was to keep the US safe. Removing Saddam was a stated strategy towards that goal.

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The goal was to prevent a mushroom cloud from appearing over the US.

Sadly enough Iraq never posed that threat.

The Goal was to remove Saddam Hussein from power and establish a Democracy in the M.E. That's not changed. Whatever justifications and tactics used to accomplish that goal are another issue.

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BALK!!!! The true goal is to establish a puppet government that resemble democracy. This administration cares not about the Iraqi people but solely about domination in the M.E.. I suspect that Iraq was initially intended to be used as a stagging ground for an eventual invasion into Iran and that the Iraqi people were to be used as part of the ground troops that would had been used. The high number of Iraqis who have fled into Iran might have squash this ambition.(mind you, this is only my speculation) There is a darker truth as to why Bush and Thugs invaded Iraq. In time it will be known and I doubt it is what they are telling the world.

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

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The goal was to prevent a mushroom cloud from appearing over the US.

Sadly enough Iraq never posed that threat.

The Goal was to remove Saddam Hussein from power and establish a Democracy in the M.E. That's not changed. Whatever justifications and tactics used to accomplish that goal are another issue.

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