gjhdiver 0 #1 July 20, 2006 10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours. 9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt. 8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God. 7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees! 6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky. 5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old. 4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving." 3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity. 2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God. 1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #2 July 20, 2006 Quote10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours. Actually, there are thousands of "gods" out there today. Anyone can make anything a god, be it skydiving, sex, cars, etc. Quote9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt. Actually, the Biblical claim is that we are created in God's image, and He is the creator. Quote6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky. Sorry, I don't laugh at Hindu beliefs...I just don't believe them. And the Bible really is something else isn't it?!?!! Miraculous things are called miraculous for a reason. Quote5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old. Nope, not me. I have no reason to "search" out that which is false. I don't know how old the earth is, but I refer you to the scripture that says "A day with the Lord is like a thousand years." Maybe each day was actually a thousand years our time, when the earth was created. Quote3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity. EH! Wrong again. It is not the evidence of a man speaking in tongues that proves Christianity--it is the confirmation in my spirit, the unwavering peace in my heart that the Bible is the truth, and God's hand upon my life, and all the ways He has changed me--that helps prove to me the truth. Quote2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God. Says who? God answers all prayers, just not always in OUR timing,nor in the way we want Him to. God knows what we need/don't need better than we do. How can we claim our prayers to win the lottery ( or whatever) isn't a selfish prayer, that by being answered the way WE want it to be answered, would cause us to turn away from God since we can "buy" whatever our hearts desire? Quote1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian. Now this one, sadly, I can agree somewhat. I myself have been meaning to start studying the Bible more---but it's definitely a discipline for me. The thing about this list, Gareth sweetie, is you will not see genuine Christians making lists like this. People would be outraged if a Christian made a generalizing list like this about atheists. BTW, I can run through the streets, claiming Jesus is a myth---and a crowd will cheer me on. If I run through the streets claiming a god is real, people cheer me on. If I run through the streets, proclaiming Jesus is Lord---people laugh and mock. If I run through the streets, proclaiming some god is a myth, people will become angry and call me self-righteous. Isn't it amazing how mocking God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, is completely acceptable to most in society. Yet if the very same Christian that believes in Jesus shouts Buddha is a myth, that becomes unacceptable. Funny how that works eh? Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #3 July 20, 2006 QuoteBTW, I can run through the streets, claiming Jesus is a myth---and a crowd will cheer me on. If I run through the streets claiming a god is real, people cheer me on. If I run through the streets, proclaiming Jesus is Lord---people laugh and mock. If I run through the streets, proclaiming some god is a myth, people will become angry and call me self-righteous. Isn't it amazing how mocking God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, is completely acceptable to most in society. Yet if the very same Christian that believes in Jesus shouts Buddha is a myth, that becomes unacceptable. Funny how that works eh? You poor oppressed majority. Tell me, why would presidential candidates always make a huge deal of their faith in god if they knew these 'crowds' of people would hate them for it?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #4 July 20, 2006 Actually, genuine Christianity is a lot more of a minority than you realize. Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #5 July 20, 2006 I admit there's a lot of basic misconceptions in the list, but I think the emphasis here is on the Fundamentalist bit. Not all Christians are Fundamentalists. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #6 July 20, 2006 QuoteNot all Christians are Fundamentalists. Most aren't. Just like most Islamics aren't fundamentalists either. Just like most skydivers are tourists.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #7 July 20, 2006 Quote Actually, genuine Christianity is a lot more of a minority than you realize. Even so, the majority of people in the US still consider themselves to be christian, and still believe in the existence of a divine bloke called Jesus. Are these the people that will form the baying crowds persecuting you for having the audacity believe, as they do, that Jesus existed?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #8 July 20, 2006 QuoteIf I run through the streets, proclaiming Jesus is Lord---people laugh and mock Would you please get this idea out of your head that the non-bible-thumping population is out to tar and feather born-again christians? That's only true in your head; in reality it is simply not the case. I invite you to come to NYC and "run through the streets, proclaiming Jesus is Lord" as you said. I guarantee you that you will be completely ignored by pretty much everyone and left in peace to proclaim whatever you like, as loud as you like. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty 0 #9 July 20, 2006 Awwww, did the fundamentalist christian steal your lollipop?Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful. -Calvin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,130 #10 July 20, 2006 QuoteAwwww, did the fundamentalist christian steal your lollipop? Would that be Art or Abuse? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,406 #11 July 20, 2006 >BTW, I can run through the streets, claiming Jesus is a myth---and a > crowd will cheer me on. If I run through the streets claiming a god is > real, people cheer me on. If I run through the streets, proclaiming > Jesus is Lord---people laugh and mock. If I run through the streets, > proclaiming some god is a myth, people will become angry and call > me self-righteous. Where do you live? Do you live in a place where the post offices are open on the Christian holy day? Or where your holidays are on Kwanzaa and Ramadan, but you have to work during Christmas? Does your money say "In Allah We Trust?" Do they swear people in with the Koran or with the Bible where you are? Out here, we have a federally-funded cross standing on top of a mountain. I don't see any federally funded stars of Davids, or Buddhas, or Vishnus. Money talks - and in the US, it speaks with a Christian accent. You have to be very, very selective in your listening (and have a very thin skin) to think Christians are denigrated. It would be like going to Japan and claiming that asians are oppressed there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #12 July 20, 2006 ha ha Would the genuine Christian please stand up! Every person that calls themselves christian would stand up. Each one has their own definition of what a genuine christian is and they all base it on their own interpretation of the bible. They all claim their interpretation to be the only correct one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #13 July 20, 2006 Quoteha ha Would the genuine Christian please stand up! Every person that calls themselves christian would stand up. Each one has their own definition of what a genuine christian is and the all base it on their own interpretation. They all claim their interpretation to be the only correct one. You only think that because your interpretation of the bible is incorrect. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdweller 0 #14 July 20, 2006 Bill I gotta agree with you on this one.------------------------------------------------------ "From the mightiest pharaoh to the lowliest peasant, who doesn't enjoy a good sit?" C. Montgomery Burns Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #15 July 20, 2006 Quoteman-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky. flying zombies are also scary - but apparently I should just open my eyes, look at it and realize it's HUMAN and get enlightened ahhhooooooom ahhhooooooom ahhhooooooom ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yourmomma 0 #16 July 20, 2006 So statements 8,7 and 4 your not disputing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #17 July 20, 2006 Thanks for proving my point. Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #18 July 20, 2006 QuoteActually, genuine Christianity is a lot more of a minority than you realize. Considering there are well over 1 billion in Christendom (Catholics, Protestants, other, orthodox, Anglicans), no it really isn't. Want to see a real religious minority? Check out Zoroastrianism...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red_Skydiver 0 #19 July 20, 2006 Quote Quote9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt. Actually, the Biblical claim is that we are created in God's image, and He is the creator. I thought the Bible stated He created us in his own image and made Adam from dirt and Eve from a spare rib..... "ashes to ashes, dust to dust"..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yourmomma 0 #20 July 20, 2006 Zoroastrianism is the name of the religion and philosophy based on the teachings ascribed to the prophet Zoroaster (Zarathushtra, Zartosht). Mazdaism is the name of the religion that acknowledges the divine authority of Ahura Mazda, proclaimed by Zoroaster to be the one uncreated Creator of all (God). Holly fuck, all this time I should have been praying to that RX-7 waiting to be rebulit in my garage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #21 July 21, 2006 I'd like my religion with a sun roof & the CD player/satellite-ready radio please. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #22 July 21, 2006 QuoteZoroastrianism is the name of the religion and philosophy based on the teachings ascribed to the prophet Zoroaster (Zarathushtra, Zartosht). Mazdaism is the name of the religion that acknowledges the divine authority of Ahura Mazda, proclaimed by Zoroaster to be the one uncreated Creator of all (God). That's all fine and good, but does their heaven have a Stripper Factory and a Beer Volcano? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,406 #23 July 21, 2006 > I'd like my religion with a sun roof & the CD player/satellite-ready radio please. You want fries with that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkR 0 #24 July 21, 2006 QuoteThat's all fine and good, but does their heaven have a Stripper Factory and a Beer Volcano? Hey! Don't anyone in here dare to make fun of my religion. Or the FSM will smite you!»Somewhere between the lies and truths borderlines get shady. Somewhere between the yesses and nos you can find the maybe.« Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #25 July 21, 2006 QuoteOr the FSM will smite you! I'm kinda curious to know how many people get this reference.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
