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QuoteOption 3 Grab your water hose and SHOOT both dogs in the snout to break up the fight....
Yeah, cause I always have a water hose in my holster.
If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!
QuoteNews:
A man was arrested and charged Wednesday after shooting his neighbor's Siberian husky dog, Kato.
The incident has divided many residents in the community, who are debating whether the incident is a case of animal cruelty or self-defense.
Neighbors remember the dog sometimes escaping the fence and wandering through other yards. Wednesday, Kato wandered to East Street where Frederick Grossmith, 48, lives. He said Kato and his own dog started fighting and, he told police, when he tried to break them up, Kato bit him. He then got his gun and shot Kato in the head.
"This guy took a precious, precious ... he's a family member," the dog's owner said.
Grossmith called 911 and EMT's treated him for minor dog bites. He is not known as animal hater.
Grossmith has been charged with animal cruelty and weapons violations. Police confiscated all his weapons.
Source: Boston Channel
I don't think he was wearing a gun so he would have gone into his house to retrieve it then fired and hit the dog in the head?...what is he Annie Oakley?
I smell something fishy about his account of the story
This is my thought as well. The article makes it sound like he wasn't carrying at the time, that he had to go somewhere to get the gun. I'm a CCW holder myself, but if he had the chance to get away from the dog to go somewhere else (house, garage, whatever) to get the gun, then his life was no longer in danger. He could have called the cops or Animal Control and everything would have been fine. To go back out once he's in a place of safety and cap the dog is a little hard to label as self defense.
It's all on the dog's owner. Period.
Walt
Walt
QuoteTo go back out once he's in a place of safety and cap the dog is a little hard to label as self defense.
True...but at the same time I'm sure he didn't want to just stand there and watch his dog get fucked up. I'm not saying going and grabbing a gun from the house and coming back out was the best option, but I can understand he wanted to save his own dog's life (don't know circumstances of fight, but maybe the husky was beating the shit out of his dog...in which case he sucks for having a pussy dog). Maybe he could have just shot a few rounds into the ground or something to just scare the dog off w/ the noise...that probably would have worked. Oh well, armchair quarterbacking never solves any problems...we weren't there.
eeneR 1
Ok, I am a proud owner of a Siberian Husky, who had a history of jumping fenced and running away. I got him as a rescue.
It is my responsibility to keep him undercontrol, infact any pet owner is responsible for that animal just as we are for our kids. If my dog gets loose and starts harrassing the neighbors, they have every reason to get pissed. I am not doing my job as a pet owner. In the 7 years I have had him he has gotten loose on me 3 times, and every time he came back when called, and it was a matter of a min or two before I got him back in the house. He is an escape artist, and it is up to me to always make sure I am one step ahead of him.
Having said that, most people do not understand that there are different types of dog fights, most of the time they are dominance or territorial, not battle to the death. Any moron that sticks there hand into any kind of a dog fight is gonna get bit. The Hose is a great idea, or you can use a 2x4 or something to seperate. There are far better ways of breaking up dog fights. Hell I bet if he shot the gun in the air it would have startled the dogs enough to make them stop...
Shooting the dog was fucking wrong, unless the dog had turned its attention fully on him. I also wonder if he was just "nipped" or did he need stitches?
Sigh, some people do not deserve dogs, they cannot handle them.
It is my responsibility to keep him undercontrol, infact any pet owner is responsible for that animal just as we are for our kids. If my dog gets loose and starts harrassing the neighbors, they have every reason to get pissed. I am not doing my job as a pet owner. In the 7 years I have had him he has gotten loose on me 3 times, and every time he came back when called, and it was a matter of a min or two before I got him back in the house. He is an escape artist, and it is up to me to always make sure I am one step ahead of him.
Having said that, most people do not understand that there are different types of dog fights, most of the time they are dominance or territorial, not battle to the death. Any moron that sticks there hand into any kind of a dog fight is gonna get bit. The Hose is a great idea, or you can use a 2x4 or something to seperate. There are far better ways of breaking up dog fights. Hell I bet if he shot the gun in the air it would have startled the dogs enough to make them stop...
Shooting the dog was fucking wrong, unless the dog had turned its attention fully on him. I also wonder if he was just "nipped" or did he need stitches?
Sigh, some people do not deserve dogs, they cannot handle them.
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eeneR
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To go back out once he's in a place of safety and cap the dog is a little hard to label as self defense.
not only that but to actually have shot the dog in the head on the first shot (the article says nothing of a second shot) is actually pretty darned suspicious.
I know a few guys who are amazing with a pistol...
a head shot while there is an active dogfight?...
that means you hit that dog in the head while both are spinning and tumbling and moving very fast.
hmmm
JohnRich 4
QuoteOne thing that pisses me off about nearly all these types of stories is that it seems like it's hardly ever reported how these things pan out...
Additional news stories with a few more facts:
The shooter is a farmer, and retrieved a .22 rifle from his truck: Boston Globe
Police say they found no evidence of a fight with other dogs (the plot thickens): Turn-to-10
Shotgun 1
Ok, I don't know what the specifics are to this particular story, other than what the media has reported, but... Be responsible for your freakin' pets, people!!!
We have recently had trouble with something disturbing our fish pond, and I was under the assumption that it was a wild raccoon. But this morning I realized that it was a neighbor's cat when I caught it in the act. And seeing this cat in our backyard put a huge distress on MY cats, which are kept indoors unless they are supervised in our backyard. I ended up having to chase the neighbor cat away and then deal with my own cat that was distressed from this intrusion on our property.
A couple of days ago, we were out for a morning walk when two large dogs came running up to us, growling, one of them getting right up on me as if it might bite - I yelled "BACK!" at the top of my lungs and scared the thing away - its owner running up and putting its leash back on, apologizing, saying that they would never hurt anyone... Yeah, it will never hurt anyone if you keep it on its freakin' leash like you're supposed to.
Anyhow, I really am an animal lover, but not to the point that I'm going to let some idiot's animal hurt me or my property just because they choose not to control it. So if you really love your pet, keep it under control and keep it off of other people's property.
(Oh, and I almost got attacked by someone's pit bull at the place that I used to live, because they were letting it run loose, but don't even get me started on that!
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We have recently had trouble with something disturbing our fish pond, and I was under the assumption that it was a wild raccoon. But this morning I realized that it was a neighbor's cat when I caught it in the act. And seeing this cat in our backyard put a huge distress on MY cats, which are kept indoors unless they are supervised in our backyard. I ended up having to chase the neighbor cat away and then deal with my own cat that was distressed from this intrusion on our property.
A couple of days ago, we were out for a morning walk when two large dogs came running up to us, growling, one of them getting right up on me as if it might bite - I yelled "BACK!" at the top of my lungs and scared the thing away - its owner running up and putting its leash back on, apologizing, saying that they would never hurt anyone... Yeah, it will never hurt anyone if you keep it on its freakin' leash like you're supposed to.
Anyhow, I really am an animal lover, but not to the point that I'm going to let some idiot's animal hurt me or my property just because they choose not to control it. So if you really love your pet, keep it under control and keep it off of other people's property.
(Oh, and I almost got attacked by someone's pit bull at the place that I used to live, because they were letting it run loose, but don't even get me started on that!
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Man Shoots Dog in Self Defense
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NEWS?
John, you know it's only 'News' if .... Dog shoots MAN!
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NEWS?
John, you know it's only 'News' if .... Dog shoots MAN!
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QuoteMan Shoots Dog in Self Defense
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NEWS?
John, you know it's only 'News' if .... Dog shoots MAN!
Dog shoots man
Wednesday, August 18 1999
Updated 11:40 AM ET August 18, 1999
STUTTGART, Germany (Reuters) - A German dog has shot and killed its owner, police said Wednesday.
The 51-year-old man, who had been out hunting with his shotgun, was found dead beside his car near the southwestern town of Bad Urach Monday.
Police ruled out suicide and foul play and said the gun must have gone off when the dog jumped on top of it on the car seat.
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I rest my case!
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~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
Shotgun 1
OK, just for the record... It was not this Shotgun that was involved with the shooting. 
Not enough info to know if he did the right thing or not, but the person whose dog got shot was obviously in the wrong for allowing their dog to wander the neighborhood.
I love animals, but I would be pretty pissed off about a large dog that regularly got loose and wandered around my neighborhood. I doubt that I would shoot it, but I would definitely call animal control.
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