Frenchy68 0 #26 September 1, 2004 I don't think anyone on the boards would have spit on Kerry the day he got back from Southeast AsiaQuote ***Unfortunate that you were not around in the '60s to spit on the vets you disagreed with who came back from Vietnam Uh... When you guys are done with Vietnam, there's that thing happening in that state continent country called irak Iraq. But then again, finishing up the Vietnam war has priority... Carry on. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #27 September 1, 2004 Sorry about this guys... But... What Bush meant to say was that "The War on Error can be won". Unfortunately there was a typo on his copy of the speech... Either that or he can't read. Anyway, the war on error obvoiusly hasn't been won just yet, but it can be! Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #28 September 1, 2004 "the war on error obvoiusly hasn't been won just yet" Gigling queitly.....-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #29 September 1, 2004 "Gigling queitly" All the moer reason for us all to join in this fight. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #30 September 1, 2004 Okay, where do I sing up for it?-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #31 September 1, 2004 "Okay, where do I sing up for it?" The important thing is to B-Sharp. A-minor attack on our enemies will make them C-Major problems and should D-Flat them. The American President will personally lead this war, off course. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #32 September 1, 2004 QuoteBut then again, finishing up the Vietnam war has priority You Frenchies bailed out before we did, we were trying to pick up your slack Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littlestranger 0 #33 September 1, 2004 Unfortunate that you were not around in the '60s to spit on the vets you disagreed with who came back from Vietnam. Fortunately, there are loads of wounded Iraq vets coming back who, I assume, you would consider representing Saddam Hussein, since they question our involvement in this war. You can still spit on them! *** Please re-read my post. Back in the early '60s (I was around back then), soldiers were required to wear their uniforms in public. My dad tells the story about the first time he came back from Vietnam, he was in the airport with his two kids, when protestors started spitting on him. He was with his kids! Where did you see anywhere in my post that I would condone that type of activity? The Vietnam war was hard not only on the soldiers that went, but on the families they left behind. I grew up knowing my friends fathers were getting killed. My father, a highly decorated vet, went back to Vietnam three times because he felt that someone who knew what the hell was going on needed to be there for the young soldiers our government continued to send. I think that John Kerry did a disservice to every Vietnam veteran when he went before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee with his lies. I also find it disingenuous of him to use his war record in an attempt to obtain the Presidency. I won't assume you've read his testimony. http://www.richmond.edu/~ebolt/history398/JohnKerryTestimony.html My Dad has told me that over the years he spent in Vietnam he did not have personal knowledge of any of the atrocities that John Kerry describes. If what Kerry claims actually happened, why didn't he do something about it then? You really make alot of assumptions in your post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #34 September 1, 2004 I really thought someone would have an answer. Between the pro-Bush and pro-Kerry people (all of whom are screaming that their candidate is the most qualified to "win the war on terror") there should be SOMEBODY who can even begin to articulate what they're talking about. This is worse than I thought. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #35 September 1, 2004 Quotethe war on error obvoiusly hasn't been won just yet" Gigling queitly..... That war probably will never end ... Quietly? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #36 September 1, 2004 we were trying to pick up your slack*** Boy, aren't you guys glad you did, uh? "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #37 September 1, 2004 Prenait la pisse hors du Français puisqu'avant lui à la mode. :*** Classic!!! "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,123 #38 September 1, 2004 QuoteThe war on terror is only won when everyone else on the planet is afraid of you. Whoever is scariest is the winner. This is probably the truest quote, and the most depressing. For one thing, who can stay the scariest forever? The war on terror won't be won; it might go into a truce, with small skirmishes, but there will always be wackos who don't think they have anything to lose by "going for broke" on someone else's safety. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZegeunerLeben 0 #39 September 1, 2004 Quote I really thought someone would have an answer. Between the pro-Bush and pro-Kerry people (all of whom are screaming that their candidate is the most qualified to "win the war on terror") there should be SOMEBODY who can even begin to articulate what they're talking about. This is worse than I thought. >>Haven't you heard? There's going to be a huge ticker-tape parade in Ney York where we celebrate VT day and the end of terrorism for all time! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #40 September 1, 2004 QuoteBetween the pro-Bush and pro-Kerry people (all of whom are screaming that their candidate is the most qualified to "win the war on terror") I honestly don't recall many people saying that. Not on here, at least. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #41 September 1, 2004 "Haven't you heard? There's going to be a huge ticker-tape parade in Ney York where we celebrate VT day and the end of terrorism for all time!" Almost right. Yes to the huge tickertape parade in New York... That's where Dubya will announce "The end of Errorism for all time!"... And will then take a vow of silence! Mike. . Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #42 September 1, 2004 And will then take a vow of silenc*** But he would probably mean it as a threat... "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #43 September 1, 2004 QuoteBut he would probably mean it as a threat... What!? Something like: "This is the end of Errorism for all time... And I will say no Moore." or: "I will continue to lead such campaigns, off course.". Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #44 September 2, 2004 QuoteQuantifiable? How about two less dictatorships. Saddam Hussein and Bush? QuoteHow about 10 million people in Afghanistan who have registered to vote? Who have registered to vote one government among the options offered by the U.S. Quote How about any citizen in Iraq being able to say anything they want about the US government, occupation forces, or any person of power in Iraq (with maybe the exception of Al Sadr, and we're working that) without serious fear of personal harm? That is if you consider abu-grahib or guantanamo a luxury resort. Some people will never stop speaking about that so called freedom of speech. I remember reading on the net that some people has goptten in troble with the FBI for speaking ill in public about Bush. Is that any diferent that the previous situation in Irak? QuoteIt's better than allowing Saddam to run wild with his sons, killing and torturing at will. It's better than allowing Bush to run wild with his oil friends, killing and torturing at will. Dude, you can try to demonize Saddam and family all you want, but your president and all the war supporters are doing an excellent job at justifying Saddam actions by repeating them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jazzjumper 0 #45 September 2, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuantifiable? How about two less dictatorships. Saddam Hussein and Bush? Saddam and the Taliban...we are a federal republic and Bush was elected. QuoteWho have registered to vote one government among the options offered by the U.S. Who have registered to vote democratically for anyone they choose to. QuoteThat is if you consider abu-grahib or guantanamo a luxury resort. Some people will never stop speaking about that so called freedom of speech. I remember reading on the net that some people has goptten in troble with the FBI for speaking ill in public about Bush. Is that any diferent that the previous situation in Irak? No, those are prisons for war criminals (as opposed to prisoners of war.) Read the Geneva Convention. These are un-uniformed combatants and not subject to the Convetion. However, some US soldiers ands and contractors have committed crimes and are being punished for it. That is what we do in America...handle it ourselves. When people "threaten" the President, yes the FBI does get involved. It's against the law to threaten the President in the US. You can say what you want, but the limit is a threat. QuoteIt's better than allowing Bush to run wild with his oil friends, killing and torturing at will. Neither Bush nor his "oil friends" are killing anyone. The US military is doing that (and I'm a part of it) and it's called war and occupation after the fact. You see, here in the US we aren't going to bend over and cow-tow to terrorists like your Socialist Government does. Sounds like you read a lot of left-wing media. QuoteDude, you can try to demonize Saddam and family all you want, but your president and all the war supporters are doing an excellent job at justifying Saddam actions by repeating them. So you mean to tell me that having a ruthless dictator in power that murdered more than 300,000 of his own people in the last 10 years (we found the mass graves) is somehow comparable to what President Bush has done by liberating the country? We aren't feeding people to lions (one of his sons did that and there is video) or putting then in wood shippers (more video). We haven't buried women and childern in mass graves, nor have we sent women back to their husbands in bags dismembered. Exactly which of those actions of Saddam are we repeating? No matter how good she looks, someone, somewhere is sick of her shit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydyvr 0 #46 September 2, 2004 Quote. . . but your president and all the war supporters are doing an excellent job at justifying Saddam actions by repeating them. This statement is disgustingly and patently false. I'd love to see you try and back it up with any sort of logic -- but you won't. You can't. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #47 September 2, 2004 Hey, Jazzjumper. You sound like you're knowlegable and might have an answer to my question. What does it mean to "win the war on terror"? We hear negative descriptions ("There won't be a final surrender." "There won't be a peace table negotiation.") but never a positive description of the protection they're trying to create. I'm sure this has been made clear by the politicians, but I don't have a TV so I miss a lot of the popular messages everyone else hears. This is one I'm really curious about. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nacmacfeegle 0 #48 September 2, 2004 Narci, is that the same as 'how will we know we have won the war on terror'? Because I've been curious about the whole 'war on terror' thing since it began.......-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 24 #49 September 2, 2004 QuoteNeither Bush nor his "oil friends" are killing anyone. The US military is doing that (and I'm a part of it) and it's called war and occupation after the fact. Cool. So when was war declared eactly? I dont get all the US fancy news stations, so I may have missed that bit.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jazzjumper 0 #50 September 2, 2004 QuoteHey, Jazzjumper. You sound like you're knowlegable and might have an answer to my question. What does it mean to "win the war on terror"? We hear negative descriptions ("There won't be a final surrender." "There won't be a peace table negotiation.") but never a positive description of the protection they're trying to create. I'm sure this has been made clear by the politicians, but I don't have a TV so I miss a lot of the popular messages everyone else hears. This is one I'm really curious about. I think the recent comments by the President (taken out of context by the media) show how this is a difficult concept (winning the war on terror) to comprehend. Since there isn't a typical nation state, geographically bound with a single recognized leader or body of leaders, it's hard to define victory. In my hardened military heart, winning this particular war would mean the total destruction of the terrorists, as well as the downfall of their financial and state-sponsored support. Basically, we will have to hunt them all down and kill them all. As awful as that sounds, until we can be certain that they are no longer a continental threat, and a threat to our interests abroad, we will continue to hunt them down. We live in a different world since 9-11. The enemy has shown they will attack civilians without military provocation, ignoring all the conventions agreed to in Geneva. We can either allow them to continue to do it or fight. In a nutshell, we'll win when they are all dead, or when we have reduced then to such that they are no longer a threat to us. We didn't start this, but we will finish it. r/Jamie No matter how good she looks, someone, somewhere is sick of her shit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 2 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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skydyvr 0 #46 September 2, 2004 Quote. . . but your president and all the war supporters are doing an excellent job at justifying Saddam actions by repeating them. This statement is disgustingly and patently false. I'd love to see you try and back it up with any sort of logic -- but you won't. You can't. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #47 September 2, 2004 Hey, Jazzjumper. You sound like you're knowlegable and might have an answer to my question. What does it mean to "win the war on terror"? We hear negative descriptions ("There won't be a final surrender." "There won't be a peace table negotiation.") but never a positive description of the protection they're trying to create. I'm sure this has been made clear by the politicians, but I don't have a TV so I miss a lot of the popular messages everyone else hears. This is one I'm really curious about. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #48 September 2, 2004 Narci, is that the same as 'how will we know we have won the war on terror'? Because I've been curious about the whole 'war on terror' thing since it began.......-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #49 September 2, 2004 QuoteNeither Bush nor his "oil friends" are killing anyone. The US military is doing that (and I'm a part of it) and it's called war and occupation after the fact. Cool. So when was war declared eactly? I dont get all the US fancy news stations, so I may have missed that bit.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jazzjumper 0 #50 September 2, 2004 QuoteHey, Jazzjumper. You sound like you're knowlegable and might have an answer to my question. What does it mean to "win the war on terror"? We hear negative descriptions ("There won't be a final surrender." "There won't be a peace table negotiation.") but never a positive description of the protection they're trying to create. I'm sure this has been made clear by the politicians, but I don't have a TV so I miss a lot of the popular messages everyone else hears. This is one I'm really curious about. I think the recent comments by the President (taken out of context by the media) show how this is a difficult concept (winning the war on terror) to comprehend. Since there isn't a typical nation state, geographically bound with a single recognized leader or body of leaders, it's hard to define victory. In my hardened military heart, winning this particular war would mean the total destruction of the terrorists, as well as the downfall of their financial and state-sponsored support. Basically, we will have to hunt them all down and kill them all. As awful as that sounds, until we can be certain that they are no longer a continental threat, and a threat to our interests abroad, we will continue to hunt them down. We live in a different world since 9-11. The enemy has shown they will attack civilians without military provocation, ignoring all the conventions agreed to in Geneva. We can either allow them to continue to do it or fight. In a nutshell, we'll win when they are all dead, or when we have reduced then to such that they are no longer a threat to us. We didn't start this, but we will finish it. r/Jamie No matter how good she looks, someone, somewhere is sick of her shit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
