Trent 0 #1 January 26, 2002 Spaceland's 40 Way jumps are going extremely well. With Jack Berk and Tom Jenkins, both from Dequello, organizing the first attempt had only two jumpers out; the second had all jumpers in; the third had several out; and the fourth had all jumpers in. The 40 ways will continue Sunday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #2 January 26, 2002 Now you just need to talk Paula into getting into it..Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumperpaula 0 #3 January 27, 2002 Paula's not ready for that shit... I don't really like BIG WAY as my discipline of choice at this point. I have too much to learn and work on before Im ready for Big Way. Entertaining tonight. Think some jumpers are gonna stay with me (and Antimike, whose jumping with em) instead of driving cross town or getting rooms. Berke is a slavedriver. Dirtdives start at 7:30am. What a great skydiving chick I am, have clean showers, dinner, beer, tequilla and any skydiving movie you would want to fall alseep to.I can give an extended report when the guys get home. Fly Your Slot ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #4 January 27, 2002 Quote What a great skydiving chick I am, have clean showers, dinner, beer, tequilla and any skydiving movie you would want to fall alseep to. Damn......I'm gonna have to come stay with you next time I'm in Houston! Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumperpaula 0 #5 January 27, 2002 San Marcos's Otter ran out of gas on jump run on the sunset load. They tried to keep the planes in formation...but the formation fell apart. Then, there was Cessna traffic at (can you believe this) around 2,000 right over the DZ. No radio, no one saw it coming from 14,000. Couple of people opened close, and were shocked by it, but no one was hurt. They completed one 40 way yesterday. Started at 8:00am today. Fly Your Slot ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #6 January 27, 2002 Quote San Marcos's Otter ran out of gas on jump run on the sunset load. They tried to keep the planes in formation...but the formation fell apart. Are you serious? The plane ran out of gas? I sure as hell hope the FAA knows about this - that pilot needs to lose his license! That's totally unacceptable.. I sure hope the owner fired his dumb ass on the spot, and the jumpers kicked his ass!Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #7 January 27, 2002 Jumps are continuing. Only incident Sunday has been miscoordination by San Marcos pilot. Released jumpers before other Otter was in position. Two great 20 ways! :( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #8 January 27, 2002 QuoteOnly incident Sunday has been miscoordination by San Marcos pilot.That's because he was distracted by HATE VIBES from ME because since you guys STOLE him I had to jump out of a 182!!!!Noooo, just kidding. It was fun, Rabbit flew. Pet me! I'm harmless and cute! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumperpaula 0 #9 January 28, 2002 Quote Jumps are continuing. Only incident Sunday has been miscoordination by San Marcos pilot. Released jumpers before other Otter was in position. Two great 20 ways! :( Sorry, Im not into rumors or gossip- just too much tequilla. Actually didn't the incident involve a go around or so and some challenging formation flying? Think they were all up there waiting for the right conditions and decisions. Your talking about the two best Otters in Texas...and a lot of experience. Fly Your Slot ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumperpaula 0 #10 January 28, 2002 Wow... The most incredible thing that I have seen in Skydiving in my short time in the sport. Two very very nice Otters, flying in formation. Two (2) 20 way's leave from both planes then, clear as day... build a formation so distictive and precise that you could see each slot. Break off in giant waves .....and the base looked like you could touch them... .. then THE LOUDEST WHOOOSSSS I've ever heard. 40 Canopies in the air - at the same time. At my Dropzone. Every single landing picture perfect. - I am in strickened amazement by the RW that I saw today. Last jump of the day.....4 point 40 way! RW ROCKS! Fly Your Slot ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #11 January 28, 2002 Heh, yeah, I finally make it to San Marcos to jump and what do I jump? Spaceland's 182 with Rabbit flying...Sort of ironic, I guess, atleast I really dig jumping out of 182s. Success is how high you bounce when you hit bottom.-General George Patton- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #12 January 28, 2002 QuoteThe most incredible thing that I have seen in Skydiving in my short time in the sport.Pretty freaking amazing! The other things that struck me was the crackata-crackata-crackata-crackata of 40 canopies opening all at once. And the guys on the outer edge tracked what seemed like *forever*. The guys in the base had to be burning it down close to 1700.Now multiply that by 3 and you'll get what we'll be seeing for the Texas record attempts later on in the year. "Zero Tolerance: the politically correct term for zero thought, zero common sense." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #13 January 28, 2002 QuoteHeh, yeah, I finally make it to San Marcos to jump and what do I jump? Spaceland's 182 with Rabbit flying...And if I know Rabbitt he was probably helping y'all pack so he could go up and fly another load! Dave, you're going to *have* to make it down here for the record attempts. Like Paula said, super big-way is really something amazing to watch. I can't even fathom being in one. It was raining canopies. Everyone.... RW folks, freefliers, whuffos were going "Holy S#$%"!"Zero Tolerance: the politically correct term for zero thought, zero common sense." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #14 January 28, 2002 QuoteI don't really like BIG WAY as my discipline of choice at this point. I have too much to learn and work on before Im ready for Big Way.SoOOoo wanna do a two-way heheI swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicagoskydiver 0 #15 January 28, 2002 Quote40 Canopies in the air - at the same time. You should have seen the 300 way attempts at Skydive Chicago! The sky was completely filled with canopies!! Hackey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Levin 0 #16 January 28, 2002 avaitrr wrote: >>>>Are you serious? The plane ran out of gas? I sure as hell hope the FAA knows about this - that pilot needs to lose his license! That's totally unacceptable.. I sure hope the owner fired his dumb ass on the spot, and the jumpers kicked his ass!<<<<congrats! to the pilot for handling the situation perfectly. everbody's still here and the plane flew the rest of the weekend. so what's the big deal? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #17 January 28, 2002 Quote congrats! to the pilot for handling the situation perfectly. everbody's still here and the plane flew the rest of the weekend. so what's the big deal? What's the big deal? You don't consider running out of gas in an airplane a big deal? I sure as hell do.. He may have handled it well AFTER he ran out, but he sure as hell did something wrong(and stupid) to get to that point to begin with.. Running out of fuel is totally unacceptable and inexcusable.. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #18 January 28, 2002 Oh, and just to add one more thing......think about how big of a deal that would have been if he had run out of fuel at 400ft, right after takeoff with a full load.. He's already proven that his overall situational awareness is poor..Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #19 January 28, 2002 "Running out of fuel is totally unacceptable and inexcusable.. "Faulty fuel gauge????????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #20 January 28, 2002 One of the first things you learn when you become a pilot is don't trust the fuel gauges......VERIFY! I think some Otter's have sticks in the tanks to manually check the fuel level, and if it doesn't you LOOK IN THE TANKS! If in doubt, add fuel.. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumperpaula 0 #21 January 28, 2002 Your talking Completely Full Loads Full RW Gear Go Arounds Exact Spots Traffic Formation Flying Lots of floaters Long Climb-out- Don't cha think just maybe they used a little more gas than a normal load? Gez, Im not a pilot, but just because the low fuel light comes on doesn't mean FREAK AND PANIC AND CALL THE FAA, does it? Maybe it means, hey...let's scratch the formation load at this point and get everyone down safe. Which is exactly what happened. Two perfect 20 way rounds. Fly Your Slot ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMarshMan1 0 #22 January 28, 2002 By...."ran out of gas" do you mean that the light came on or the engine(s) quit? Either way, as a pilot, I have to agree with Mike that its totally unacceptable for a pilot to run out of gas... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #23 January 28, 2002 QuoteCompletely Full Loads Full RW Gear Go Arounds Exact Spots Traffic Formation Flying Lots of floaters Long Climb-out- Don't cha think just maybe they used a little more gas than a normal load? Sure they used more fuel than usualy BUT this should have been thought of before and more fuel added....I am a pilot and I have to agree with my other pilots here....this it TOTALY unacceptable....marc"...a mind stretched with new idea's will never regain its shape" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #24 January 28, 2002 I'm with Paula on this one, there really was no big crisis, just some pissed off belly fliers, who exited the said aircraft in an orderly manner, good job people. There was a couple of go arounds on that load and there was enough fuel for everyone to get out safely and the plane landed fine under power to both (I believe) engines. Its not as if the thing stalled, or there was a serious drama......I would add the caveat that I'm not a pilot either, and I'm not familiar with any FAA stuff, being a ferriner in this fair land. I do know the pilot's boss was more than a little pissed off with him though, so can't we move on to something more meaningful, like errrr, boobies or something?D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #25 January 28, 2002 QuoteI'm with Paula on this one, there really was no big crisis, just some pissed off belly fliers, who exited the said aircraft in an orderly manner, good job people. There was a couple of go arounds on that load and there was enough fuel for everyone to get out safely and the plane landed fine under power to both (I believe) engines. Its not as if the thing stalled, or there was a serious drama......I would add the caveat that I'm not a pilot either, and I'm not familiar with any FAA stuff, being a ferriner in this fair land. I do know the pilot's boss was more than a little pissed off with him though, so can't we move on to something more meaningful, like errrr, boobies or something?So this sounds more like a fuel management issue than anything else....marc"...a mind stretched with new idea's will never regain its shape" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites