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Steel 0
jfields 0
I'm to busy to debunk. Anyone else have a few spare hours? 
Steel 0
QuoteHey Mikkey and one more thing, my neck turns brown when hit by the sun
I don't know about you but I am guessing that you're not much different. It really depends how the sun hits my neck. Take me shark-fishing out in the for sun for 8 hours and my neck will turn red and peel. Take me to a beach in Miami for couple of hours 3 or 4 days in a row and it will turn brown. (while my girlfreind is crying about her sunburn or freckles and I am doing my best not to laugh).
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If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass.
Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.
Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.
wmw999 2,148
nope.
thought better of the rest of it.
Wendy W.
thought better of the rest of it.
Wendy W.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)
gjhdiver 0
QuoteQuoteOK, it's their job to defend this dickhead.
I guess the left thinks free speech only applies to flag burning, gay rights groups. Such a shame
Nonsense.
I'm a leftist, as as far as I'm concerned you can say what you like. That doesn't however absolve you from critiscism of the content of your speech.
I personally think that the guy is a superstitous moron. It's his right to spout crap, and my right to call him on it. It's got nothing to do with the endless left vs right tedious debate.
gjhdiver 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteAnd the far right thinks free speech extends to exposing undercover US agents,
I think her husband did that more than anyone!
I think that Bill Clinton has the lying to congress thing covered.
You should probably get over that whole Clinton thing. He lied about a blow job, now he's gone, and furious consevatives everywhere miss him. They really don't have anybody good to get annoyed about until Hillary runs for the job.
The Shrub in the White House now, has way more problems. His deception of the US Congress is costing a US serviceman's life a day on average right now. If you think that's not going to come back and bite him on the ass, just look at the career of LBJ.
Gawain 0
QuoteQuote
That may be true if you and I each had the same net-worth. Let's say you and I each have an aid budget $100,000, if we gave the same 10% in the name of economic development (providing that the dollar amounts were deemed the necessary amount to work with), your point is well taken.
If you want to reduce it to individuals, then divide the aid$ by the population. Each American gives less than each Frenchman, German or each Norwegian. Make you feel more righteous?
Your argument is as stupid as saying Delaware isn't paying its share for national defense because it sends fewer tax dollars to Washington than does California.
When it comes to official government aid (ODA/OA) that may be. But remember the role of government here in the US versus in Europe, or even Canada. Already, I've shown that private, NGOs in the US, distribute more in terms of dollars than the government itself.
How we fell into the trap of "because we have more we should do more" bugs me a little.
Even if you tally up the figures by OECD:
21% of money tracked is from the US (out of 22 noted countries).
US population is 300M out of 5B worldwide (or is it 6B?). Anyway, that means the US constitutes 6% of the world population, and as far as OECD is concerned the US aid is 21%.
I still don't understand the argument. I'm not trying to sound more righteous. In 2002, US aid was up, yet again. If it's less of the total GDP, you can't ignore the disproportionate comparison of the size of the relative economies.
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
juanesky 0
Hey Gawain, would you mind sparing 0.000001 once you get elected so I can get another rig?
"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon
Gawain 0
Well, before I get involved in such an enterprise, you might seek aid from the private sector, so I don't mis-use taxpayer money. 
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
juanesky 0
Well it can be assessed as the Unemployed skydivers of america association gift....
"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon
Gawain 0
The check is in the mail. 
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Steel 0
QuoteWell it can be assessed as the Unemployed skydivers of america association gift....
Yes I would like to apply for that as well. I have all the other components necessary for my third rig all I need is a lightning 176. Hell while they are throwing all of those billions of dollars around I don't think a new J-4, C-18 with hip rings would be too much to ask.
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If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass.
Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.
Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.
Shark 0
QuoteI have all the other components necessary for my third rig all I need is a lightning 176.
I've got a L193 if you are interested and I need a L143, to jump with the big dogs. So where do we apply for this grant?
Steel 0
QuoteQuoteI have all the other components necessary for my third rig all I need is a lightning 176.
I've got a L193 if you are interested and I need a L143, to jump with the big dogs. So where do we apply for this grant?
hmm, I wonder if I could use a 193. According to the numbers I have seen I would be too light for it but for some reason I still felt like I was sinking in a 176 on my last jump. I probably need a lot more jumps before making that determination. But for now I will just request that Gawain get me a 176 with this grant.
If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass.
Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.
Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.
Gawain 0
This is all pending my election to being governor or president or something... your contributions will aid in that effort.
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
SkyDekker 1,144
QuoteYou 're talking percentages, what about total numbers?
That's funny, when we were talking defense spending you wanted it in percentages, now you want it in absolute numbers. Make up your mind.
SkyDekker 1,144
QuoteUsing % to measure the priority is still not an accurate measurement though, especially when the economies being compared aren't the same. If you take the numbers I gave before (based on GDP):
But it was accurate when discussing defense spending. Then it was suppose to be % of GDP to indicate that your defense spending really wasn't that much. So once again, which one is it?
Gawain 0
QuoteQuoteUsing % to measure the priority is still not an accurate measurement though, especially when the economies being compared aren't the same. If you take the numbers I gave before (based on GDP):
But it was accurate when discussing defense spending. Then it was suppose to be % of GDP to indicate that your defense spending really wasn't that much. So once again, which one is it?
I haven't been talking about defense spending.
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
SkyDekker 1,144
QuoteI haven't been talking about defense spending.
Ahh but your like-minded friends have. So do you disagree with them?
When you look at US defense spending in absolute dollars, it is an astronomical number. When you look at it as a percentage of GDP it really isn't that far out of line with many other countries.
So, how should we look at this? As an absolute number or as a percentage of GDP?
kallend 1,647
Quote
I haven't been talking about defense spending.
Well, now you've started, why does the US need to spend as much as the next 8 nations COMBINED on defense (that includes Russia, China, UK, France...)?
Comparing % GDP spent on defense with %GPD spent on helping out poor nations, Europe comes out looking philanthropic and the US looks belligerent.
...
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
SkyDekker 1,144
QuoteComparing % GDP spent on defense with %GPD spent on helping out poor nations, Europe comes out looking philanthropic and the US looks belligerent.
But John, you have this completely wrong. When it comes to defense spending we look at % of GDP. But when it comes to aid for the poor we look at absolute dollars. Now quit being silly and try and compare apples to apples.
Gawain 0
QuoteQuoteI haven't been talking about defense spending.
Ahh but your like-minded friends have. So do you disagree with them?
When you look at US defense spending in absolute dollars, it is an astronomical number. When you look at it as a percentage of GDP it really isn't that far out of line with many other countries.
So, how should we look at this? As an absolute number or as a percentage of GDP?
I don't see anything wrong with looking at it from both perspectives. Personally, I tend to look at the bottom line first, then percentage to provide additional perspective.
Seeing both is important.
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Gawain 0
QuoteQuote
I haven't been talking about defense spending.
Well, now you've started, why does the US need to spend as much as the next 8 nations COMBINED on defense (that includes Russia, China, UK, France...)?
Comparing % GDP spent on defense with %GPD spent on helping out poor nations, Europe comes out looking philanthropic and the US looks belligerent.
WTF? I haven't been talking about f**k**g defense spending.
The missions of our military complex and the role of our government post WWII are far different from other nations. Our military budget includes disproporational contributions to NATO, Russia, the middle east, ad infinitum. Don't look to me for justification of the spending. Look to the events of the past 20 years and think about what would happen if we had done nothing.
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
juanesky 0
Gawain for total recall! California first, the country later!!!
Unionized unemployed skydivers of america...
Unionized unemployed skydivers of america...
"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon
You know I am one of those skydivers, who was in telecom, and whose career has been going full speed in reverse with no brakes since the middle of 2000, when Clinton's hopeless economic policies had taken root and his internet boom freeride was coming to an end. But I think of myself and intelligent enough to not place blame where it doesn't belong and instead to place it exactly where it does belong. There are too many facts and statistical studies out there the prove that raising taxes on the upper class never has helped the economy because they workless and therefore even if you raise the percentage you will collect less. 80% of 0 will always be less than 5% or X so long as X>0. That might be the extreme case but for that same reason goverments who practice class warfare are never more successful. Bottomline that is Socialiam and Socialism has never and will never work. The reason I bring this up is because Democrats in congress have stood in the way of Bush trying to cut taxes to set right what 8 years of Clinton made wrong. So if you want to complain about the unemployment rates obviously that comes back to left wing policy. We should blame the guilty rather than escape goat on the innocent.
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Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.
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