kallen 0 #1 December 23, 2003 I saw a T-Shirt at our DZ yesterday with what looked like an eye and the words "Anticipating 4:20" printed over it. Gotta be my age but, I just didn't get it. Can someone please tell me what that means? Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdgregory 0 #2 December 23, 2003 Hmm I know 4:20 used to mean weed didn't it? Something about the chemical properties or something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #3 December 23, 2003 4:20 is "time to smoke ganja". (I don't smoke, but I have before) Angela. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alanab 0 #4 December 23, 2003 420 is police code for marijuana, kina like 187 for homicide or whatever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflygoddess 0 #5 December 23, 2003 Well I heard that at 4:20 was a time to remember Bob Marley...and what better way to remember Bob than to smoke those left handed cigs at 4:20pm every day and on April 20th is even a better day to smoke all day long...or something like that... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdgregory 0 #6 December 23, 2003 Quote420 is police code for marijuana, kina like 187 for homicide or whatever Now that makes more sense. But of course I would not know such things as I have never broken a single law. Except when I was in Tiajuana that one time and this hooker asked me if I would take my cigar and . . . no wait no that was not me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallen 0 #7 December 23, 2003 Thanks everyone. I appreciate the replies. I knew that you guys would know. Keith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #8 December 23, 2003 Quote420 is police code for marijuana, kina like 187 for homicide or whatever Naw, that isn't true. Though I've never smoked it, I know enough about it. It actually commemorates the time when a group of high school kids were supposed to meet up to smoke some back in the sixties. Somehow, 4:20 became known there, and then spread to become a societal moniker. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TribalTalon 0 #9 December 23, 2003 hmmmm. i heard it was the police code for drug bust as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #10 December 23, 2003 Nope, Lawrocket is correct. Codes"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murps2000 86 #11 December 23, 2003 You are all mistaken. Any pothead worth his binger would know that it came from the Grateful Dead shows, which typically started at 4:30. One had to properly prepare in the parking lot in order to get maximum enjoyment from the show, so 4:20 became the common time to commence with consumption.... Or so I've heard.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #12 December 23, 2003 http://www.phish.net/faq/420explanations.html Why else is 420 important? There are a variety of explanations besides the most common and the most elaborate, all much more interesting than "police code", and many plausible. Known Myths: It isn't police code. It isn't the number of chemicals in marijuana (315, not 420). And it isn't tea time in Amsterdam (that's 5:30). (Gerhard den Hollander). Length of buzz: In a study reportedly conducted on the effects of cannabis, one of the conclusions was that the effects last for 4 hours and 20 seconds, with onset in the first ten minutes, "coming up" for 5-10 minus, a plateau for 15-30, "coming down" for 45-60 minutes, and "after effects" for 30-60 minutes, with this graphic summarizing the high: (Cole Smith) Sixties Songs: For instance, Bob Dylan's famous "Rainy Day Women #12 and 35" is a possible reference, or source -- 12x35=420. And Stephen Stills wrote (and Crosby Stills Nash & Young performed) a song "4+20" (first recorded 7/16/69, released on Deja Vu 3/11/70) about an 24-year-old poverty-stricken man who started and finished with nothing. (Thanks to Sherry Keel 12/6/98; and Matt Cantor, 2/12/03.) Dylan aslo mentions "4 and 20 windows" in "The Balland of Frankie Lee and Judas Priest" (on John Wesley Harding). Older Verse: But 420 in poetry is older than that... Greg Keller notes the old nursery rhyme line, "four and twenty black birds baked in a pie". Revelation 5:14 (in the King James Version of the Christian Bible) reads, "And the four beasts said 'A-Men.' And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever." (Travis Spurley 2/15/99) Mark 4:20 (which was printed on t-shirts in the late 1980s) reads ""Others like seed sown on good soil, hear the word, accept it, and produce a crop - thirty, sixty, or even a hundred times what was sown." (Althea Toldme) See also, 420 in the Bible. In Midnight's_Children, Salman Rushdie wrote, "Inevitably, a number of these children failed to survive. Malnutrition, disease and the misfortunes of everyday life had accounted for no less than four hundred and twenty of them by the time I became conscious of their existence; although it is possible to hypothesize that these deaths, too, had their purpose, since 420 has been, since time immemorial, the number associated with fraud, deception and trickery." (Comet 2/14/98) Comet's "best guess is that this refers to something in Indian mythology or numerology, since the book is set in India and frequently involves Indian history, culture, and religion. Given the high interest in Eastern religion among the phish/dead community, this seems a likely origin of 420's current significance." Temporal Significance: "Hands on analog clock at 4:20 look like position of doobie dangling from mouth" "Larry in Tuscan" and Alex Mack 5/19/99). Disruptive students are out of detention and safetly away from school by 4:20, also rumored to be "the time that you should dose to be peaking when the Dead went on stage" Hart. "The Waldos" were a group of teens back in the 70's that lived in San Rafael, CA. 420 was the way they talked about pot in front of teachers, non-smoking family members etc. Also it was the time of day they could just go relax, and get baked." ("PhunkCellar") Jamaicans purportedly "worked till 4 then walked home then lit up. They would talk 420 like our parents talked about after 5. That's when partying began" "Larry in Tuscan"). Albert (not Abbie) Hofmann supposedly first encountered LSD at 4:20 p.m. on 4/19/1943 (Bart Coleman citing Storming Heaven by Jay Stevens, recommended by Mickey Hart in Planet Drum). Surrealist painter Miro was born April 20, 1893. And www.filmspeed.com says the propoganda film Reefer Madness has a copyright date of April 20, 1936 (i.e. 4/20). (Patrick Woolford) Misc: Could be that it comes from hydroponics, the practice of cultivating plants in water often used by indoor marijuana cultivators, since 4 is used for H on a calculator (420/H20). (Nick Lowe 3/30/00) The number 80 (eight) is "quatre vingt" (pronounced "cah-truh vahn"), meaning "four (times} twenty". Dan Nijjar 1/27/00 (No connection yet between the number 80 and pot. A quarter pound is roughly 120 grams, rounding quarter-ounces to 7.5.) The titanic was supposed to arrive 4/20/1912. (Thanks to RB.) Perhaps the heavy use of vt420 terminals in the Berkeley area is to blame? (BTW, 420 in binary code is 110100100.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcandalysse 0 #13 December 23, 2003 Too much mythologizing! I heard it was because Earth Day is April 20 but Earth Day is april 22.....hmmm Here in Sarasota Florida, some guys just opened up an all night restaurant called "Munchies 4:20 cafe". It's open from 4:20pm till 4:20am. They were looking for a place to eat one nite and only found Dennys and IHOP, so decided to open an all nite cafe.. for their fellow 'heads'Oh well, as a muff brother once said, its always 4:20 somewhere mp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #14 December 23, 2003 You are all wrong! 4:20 (April 20) is Adolph Hitler's birthday, and therefore is used symbolically by Hitler lovers (and foggy minded kids who don't know better) to denote all kinds of "hey look at me, I'm evil" stuff. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #15 December 23, 2003 Hitler was born on that date."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murps2000 86 #16 December 23, 2003 ***Why else is 420 important? There are a variety of explanations besides the most common and the most elaborate, all much more interesting than "police code", and many plausible. Known Myths: It isn't police code. It isn't the number of chemicals in marijuana (315, not 420). And it isn't tea time in Amsterdam (that's 5:30). (Gerhard den Hollander). Length of buzz: In a study reportedly conducted on the effects of cannabis, one of the conclusions was that the effects last for 4 hours and 20 seco...blah blah blah, girl, are you high? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #17 December 23, 2003 Quoteblah blah blah, girl, are you high? on life, babe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #18 December 23, 2003 And how U DOING?"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #19 December 23, 2003 warm and toasty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murps2000 86 #20 December 23, 2003 Quoteblah blah blah, girl, are you high? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- on life, babe Ahhh, but aren't we all... Your post was actually quite informative and stimulating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #21 December 23, 2003 http://www.snopes.com/language/stories/420.htmYesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #22 December 23, 2003 Quotehttp://www.snopes.com/language/stories/420.htm Look like lightin' up a phattie wins out, however Hitler does get a (dis)honorable mention! . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
